Map has no outside?

[Springheel]

Anyone gotten this warning?

 

[Remove Outside]
WARNING:no entities inside
maps\springheel\prologue.map has no outside====================================

------------- Warnings ---------------
during compiling AAS...
WARNING:no entities inside
1 warnings

 

Every time I dmap I get this warning and then get a missing AAS warning when starting the map. There are indeed entities inside the map...no idea what it means by no outside. The map worked earlier...mostly I've just been monsterclipping this afternoon.

[grayman]

How many entities?

 

Are they all embedded inside monsterclip or w/in 16 units of the edge of a monsterclip brush or a worldspawn brush?

 

The error means that once the AAS areas were generated, none of the entities appropriate for that AAS size were found sitting inside any of the AAS areas.

[Springheel]

Yep, that was the problem. The map had only two sitters in it, and they were too close to the monsterclip brush I guess.

[Goldwell]

"prologue.map"

 

Ooooo

[Springheel]

I find it difficult to figure out how to place sitters so they're not close to worldspawn. These two AI sit perfectly well when there's no monsterclip surrounding anything, but of course then they'll treadmill into the table if the player crawls up there. Are there tricks for sitting in cases like this?

[Airship Ballet]

Maybe only monster clip the back end of the table, so that they'll recognise it as unreachable? They'll swing at the player on the front end where they can reach him and throw stones while he's stood inside the monsterclip block.

[grayman]

Do they sit on the table? I can't see what's behind them.

[Obsttorte]

From my observation aas areas are generated in a way, so that they are roughly 8 doom units away from each path-blocking obstacle in the x and y direction. Path-blocking can mean monsterclipped brushes or worldspawn.

[Obsttorte]

Do they sit on the table? I can't see what's behind them.

Stools ... to sit on. The table is in the center.

[grayman]

From my observation aas areas are generated in a way, so that they are roughly 8 doom units away from each path-blocking obstacle in the x and y direction. Path-blocking can mean monsterclipped brushes or worldspawn.

 

16 units away.

[grayman]

Stools ... to sit on. The table is in the center.

 

That's awfully tight to expect the sitters to always sit exactly where you want. Do they use path nodes to do their sitting, or are they always sitting there?

[Sotha]

Put AI more far away from the benches. Maybe 16 or 32 units.

Give spawnarg "sitting 1"

Give spawnarg "sit_down_slide_dist" with a large enough number, maybe 16 or 32.

Monsterclip models as normal.

 

Edit: it may be that the sit_down_slide_dist must be given to the AI instead of the path node. Cannot remember.

[Obsttorte]

 

16 units away.

damnit, so close