Bikerdude 3739 Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 found this while looking for inspiration for my vert contest mission - http://www.ozarkmedievalfortress.com/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Melan 1806 Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 (edited) Check out this post on Kraków and Lviv/Lemberg (in fact, if you have time, check out the entire blog...); a lot of great pictures for inspiration. Here are some standouts: And the crown jewel: Sheer beauty. (And imagine the street in this last pic going on two or three stories downwards... if that doesn't get you going, nothing will.) Edited June 22, 2010 by Melan 1 Quote Come the time of peril, did the ground gape, and did the dead rest unquiet 'gainst us. Our bands of iron and hammers of stone prevailed not, and some did doubt the Builder's plan. But the seals held strong, and the few did triumph, and the doubters were lain into the foundations of the new sanctum. -- Collected letters of the Smith-in-Exile, Civitas Approved Link to post Share on other sites
Bikerdude 3739 Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 Found this, I might even take a ride over there to see and take pics and then make a mission from it... Its a real castle that started being built in 1996 but only using medieval tools and building techniques - - bloody awesome - http://www.guedelon.fr/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bikerdude 3739 Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 oh and this might come in usefull Quote Link to post Share on other sites
own3r 0 Posted June 29, 2010 Report Share Posted June 29, 2010 (edited) A stain glass window I took earlier with a bit of persistance, its really quite tough to get a shot which is niether over exposed or underexposed here and not blurred without a tripod... I think I managed it! http://dl.dropbox.co...es/SDC11010.JPG Public domain any use, cut it out and make a texture. Some addtional pics:http://dl.dropbox.co...es/SDC10999.JPG http://dl.dropbox.co...es/SDC11002.JPGhttp://dl.dropbox.co...es/SDC11014.JPG http://dl.dropbox.co...es/SDC11015.JPG http://dl.dropbox.co...es/SDC11016.JPG http://dl.dropbox.co...es/SDC10960.JPG Edited June 29, 2010 by own3r Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mortem Desino 66 Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 A stain glass window I took earlier with a bit of persistance, its really quite tough to get a shot which is niether over exposed or underexposed here and not blurred without a tripod... I think I managed it! http://dl.dropbox.co...es/SDC11010.JPG Public domain any use, cut it out and make a texture. *ogles* I love it. Quote yay seuss crease touss dome in ouss nose tair Link to post Share on other sites
Mortem Desino 66 Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 BINGO! Now I can shove it into my FM. Quote yay seuss crease touss dome in ouss nose tair Link to post Share on other sites
Melan 1806 Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 (edited) Wooooo! And it is actually something you might see in a Builder chapel, so... Edited July 1, 2010 by Melan Quote Come the time of peril, did the ground gape, and did the dead rest unquiet 'gainst us. Our bands of iron and hammers of stone prevailed not, and some did doubt the Builder's plan. But the seals held strong, and the few did triumph, and the doubters were lain into the foundations of the new sanctum. -- Collected letters of the Smith-in-Exile, Civitas Approved Link to post Share on other sites
Tels 278 Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 BINGO! Now I can shove it into my FM. Very nice, but the light pattern on the floor should be not as blurry (real glass windows look like you can make out the details almost). Quote "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man." -- George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950) "Remember: If the game lets you do it, it's not cheating." -- Xarax Link to post Share on other sites
nbohr1more 2046 Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 ...but ...but performance? (Although I do recall some old tech demos where fully detailed stained-glass projected lights ran very well on a Geforce 2...) Quote Please visit TDM's IndieDB site and help promote the mod: http://www.indiedb.com/mods/the-dark-mod (Yeah, shameless promotion... but traffic is traffic folks...) Link to post Share on other sites
Tels 278 Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 ...but ...but performance? (Although I do recall some old tech demos where fully detailed stained-glass projected lights ran very well on a Geforce 2...) The "projected light" is just a texture, anyway. It can be as detailed as you want Quote "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man." -- George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950) "Remember: If the game lets you do it, it's not cheating." -- Xarax Link to post Share on other sites
Mortem Desino 66 Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 Very nice, but the light pattern on the floor should be not as blurry (real glass windows look like you can make out the details almost).Quite right -- My church's stained glass no longer faces the sun due to building expansion. I just had to visit my local Basilica for reference. And the grand total size of these textures is still comparatively small. The self-lit glass needs no hi-res normal map or spec map. Nor does the light texture. Quote yay seuss crease touss dome in ouss nose tair Link to post Share on other sites
Tels 278 Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 Quite right -- My church's stained glass no longer faces the sun due to building expansion. I just had to visit my local Basilica for reference. And the grand total size of these textures is still comparatively small. The self-lit glass needs no hi-res normal map or spec map. Nor does the light texture. Looks much better! Does the glass have a normal map, tho? It should, as the "lead" frames around the glass are considerable "higher" than the glass surface. Quote "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man." -- George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950) "Remember: If the game lets you do it, it's not cheating." -- Xarax Link to post Share on other sites
Mortem Desino 66 Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 The solder joints are negligable, but the butts between panes in large pieces can protrude up to 3/8 inch. I'm yet doubtful that self-lit textures can render a normal map. I'm painting a transparent texture w/normals to frame each triadibus, So it won't necessarily look totally flat+black. (prehaps a moderator can clean up these last 9 posts into a new thread) Quote yay seuss crease touss dome in ouss nose tair Link to post Share on other sites
own3r 0 Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 The solder joints are negligable, but the butts between panes in large pieces can protrude up to 3/8 inch. I'm yet doubtful that self-lit textures can render a normal map. I'm painting a transparent texture w/normals to frame each triadibus, So it won't necessarily look totally flat+black. (prehaps a moderator can clean up these last 9 posts into a new thread) I thought I would have a go at making a model of it and here it is: Its ~500 tris which is perhaps too much so I think i will just make a normal map using the high poly mapped to a plane and then use that instead. If you could link me the diffuse and normal texture you would like on the wall that would be good I can use them to bake AO onto and add some texture specific detail to the normals. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SneaksieDave 40 Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 Quite nice. I'm still learning creating meshes like that; would you be willing to show the wireframe? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
own3r 0 Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 Quite nice. I'm still learning creating meshes like that; would you be willing to show the wireframe? Here are the source files, that should help you a lot more than that.( a high polygon version is hidden on layer 1, reveal it with ALT H to bake normals.) I was just having fun, I hope someone finds it useful. You have complete freedom to use it however you wish.http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7244043/darkrad.zip The low polygon version could do with a clean up I did it quite quickly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mortem Desino 66 Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 Actually, for large decorative models, 500 tris should be acceptable. Due to of the stained glass casting light in, it doesn't necessarily have to be shadowcasting anyway. I sent you a PM, if you'd like to collab with me on getting this in-game. Quote yay seuss crease touss dome in ouss nose tair Link to post Share on other sites
Bikerdude 3739 Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 Medival castle kitchens - http://www.dreamstime.com/searchkwy_kitchen-of-medieval-castle there are loads of pictures but here are a few that caught my eye... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SneaksieDave 40 Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 Interesting, that doesn't look too tough... I think. I guess it was the connection of the recessed areas to the main plane of the front that had me confused. Looks like it's just straightforward connecting of verts to verts, which I assumed was too laborious, but apparently isn't. Thanks own3r! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dumpkin 0 Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 If you're interested in building castle-style, you should have a look at this site: http://www.burgenseite.com/ It has very nice detailed pictures of windows, arches, toilets ("Abtritt-Erker"), walls, etc. Unfortunately it's only in german. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
demagogue 1208 Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Arteria is a 3D-CG shop that appears to concentrate heavily in medieval architecture. If you read the "About Us" page, the founder is on some kind of mission to CGize all the medieval architecture in Britain. Too bad it's all so expensive, but fortunately inspiration is free: http://www.arteria3d.com/PhotoGallery.asp?ProductCode=Medieval+WorldBuilder+Pack Quote What do you see when you turn out the light? I can't tell you but I know that it's mine. Link to post Share on other sites
Bikerdude 3739 Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 http://www.arteria3d...rldBuilder+Pack Now thats just Darkmod porn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SneaksieDave 40 Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Wow those are nice. Like, 'want to sit down and build it just to see how good it can look' nice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Melan 1806 Posted July 29, 2010 Report Share Posted July 29, 2010 (edited) After Trogir (featured in a previous post), here are three more reference images from Croatia. All depict the town of Split, and come from Splitinfo.hu (Someone must have wasted a TDM vine arrow on that third image...) Edited July 29, 2010 by Melan Quote Come the time of peril, did the ground gape, and did the dead rest unquiet 'gainst us. Our bands of iron and hammers of stone prevailed not, and some did doubt the Builder's plan. But the seals held strong, and the few did triumph, and the doubters were lain into the foundations of the new sanctum. -- Collected letters of the Smith-in-Exile, Civitas Approved Link to post Share on other sites
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