pakmannen Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 Well, I was looking through the concept art list thread and found this in the Menu concept thread. I just realized I never actually uploaded these pics. We already decided not to go with the "Morrowind" look, but I thought I'd post 'em here anyway, just for fun. I do like my "loading screen" image though (featuring Goldfish's Thief pic). Maybe it could be useful for something somewhere. Anyway, here they are (all pretty dark, sorry about that): Loading Menu Settings Heh, now that I look at them, I realize they're so old I didn't even know we were called the "Dark Mod", not "Darkmod". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oDDity Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 THose are great. perhaps with the revenant there instead of the guard. I think we should use this concept. You apologise for the darkness of them, but it's perfect. I haven't seen anything better put forward. Quote Civillisation will not attain perfection until the last stone, from the last church, falls on the last priest. - Emil Zola character models site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pakmannen Posted September 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 THose are great. perhaps with the revenant there instead of the guard. I think we should use this concept. You apologise for the darkness of them, but it's perfect. I haven't seen anything better put forward. On some screens they appear as pitch black, but maybe that's something that can be handled with Doom 3's gamma settings or whatever. Honestly, I don't have a clue about things like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oDDity Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 Ok, they'd need a bit of tweaking, like the guard picture should be stenciled in B&W like the lamp, and the text highlighiting could have more of a lava glow effect rather than dull yellow etc, but the basic principal is perfik. We could have a different characters or places from the game stenciled in at random every time you loaded it up as a splash loading screen, or FM authors could put something from their own FM instead. Quote Civillisation will not attain perfection until the last stone, from the last church, falls on the last priest. - Emil Zola character models site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dram Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 wow, fuck, thats excellent I really like it. Maybe we should go with that, or at least put it as placeholder or something. Looks awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Horizon Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 I have to agree. These images are visually striking. They have such a classic, timeless quality to them. I honestly think that something like this would be far more suitable for our menus and loading screens than an ingame avi. This is just bloody stylish. Yes Dram, I like that idea. I think I"ll pop one of them in somehow as a placeholder image. Just to see what kind of feeling it gives. Anyone know how I can replace the doom 3 loading image with that one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dram Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 NH, i'll have a look at how to replace it gimme sec... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dram Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 ok, had a look. In pak000.pk4 is ui folder, in there should be mainmenu.gui or something like that, but thats huge and would take too much work to put in or whatever. The other option is that in pak001.pk4 is the dds files. now in there are 2 places of the dds images:dds/gui/assets/mainmenu anddds/ui/assets/mainmenu i don't know which one it is, cos i can't open the dds files. if you have photoshop you can i think. Anyways, hope that helps tim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dram Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 wait i have a better idea, gimme sec ill test it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Horizon Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 wait i have a better idea, gimme sec ill test it... I shall wait. Thanks for the help. I was trying to weed through the gui file but I can't make any sense of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dram Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 cool. Well, just to update you, im basically trying to apply a custom gui to the test_water map. Hope it works. I'm just rewriting some parts in the gui file. I'll try it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subjective Effect Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 They look great!! I especially like the concept art in the background. Perhaps grime them up a bit more and put some other detail in the bottom or top left corner though, it looks just a little sparse there. Quote I want your brain... to make his heart... beat faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dram Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 ok, doing a small test now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dram Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 ok...cant touch the menu cos its all animated and shit, but i've managed to make the game show the top screen (on this page) when loading. Looks good, gimme sec, ill chuck it up onto ftp... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dram Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 ok, i've tracked down the default loading screen, gimme sec, replacing/testing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dram Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 :/ fuck. I replaced the default splash screen but it did'nt change it. So far i've only been able to (easily) apply that load pic for a single map. I'll try a few more things... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springheel Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 So Napalm should ditch all the two months of work he's already done on the other menu? This really has become the mod that can't stick to anything. It's one thing when it's just yet another debate, but when people have already spent hours of work on something, pulling the rug out from under them is not only unprofessional, but it's highly demotivating. We need to get our act together. Quote TDM Missions: A Score to Settle * A Reputation to Uphold * A New Job * A Matter of Hours Video Series: Springheel's Modules * Speedbuild Challenge * New Mappers Workshop * Building Traps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dram Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 napalm's working on a menu? oh. well i did'nt know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkness_Falls Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 I agree, these look really great!! However, these appear as though they'd be fairly static screens ~ not much happening on them (little or no animation). Thus, they could become a bit lifeless after a while; or at least in relation to the type of menu Napalm is working on. I think we should wait to see what Napalm comes up with before spending too much time on these ones. These here have sat on pakmannen's hard drive for months now, a little longer inaction won't hurt. Once we see what Napalm has been working on, I have a feeling we'll prefer his because of a little more motion/animation going on. We can always revert to these ones if for whatever reason Napalm's doesn't work out (tehcnical issues or whatever), but we should wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dram Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oDDity Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 So Napalm should ditch all the two months of work he's already done on the other menu? This really has become the mod that can't stick to anything. It's one thing when it's just yet another debate, but when people have already spent hours of work on something, pulling the rug out from under them is not only unprofessional, but it's highly demotivating. We need to get our act together. I haven't seen it. THere's no point working secretly for months on something and then springing it on us. If it's better than this one, then we'll use it, if it's not, then we aren't going to use it just becasue he spent two months woking on it. Quote Civillisation will not attain perfection until the last stone, from the last church, falls on the last priest. - Emil Zola character models site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparhawk Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 I agree, these look really great!! However, these appear as though they'd be fairly static screens ~ not much happening on them (little or no animation). Thus, they could become a bit lifeless after a while; or at least in relation to the type of menu Napalm is working on. I think we should wait to see what Napalm comes up with before spending too much time on these ones. These here have sat on pakmannen's hard drive for months now, a little longer inaction won't hurt. Once we see what Napalm has been working on, I have a feeling we'll prefer his because of a little more motion/animation going on. We can always revert to these ones if for whatever reason Napalm's doesn't work out (tehcnical issues or whatever), but we should wait and see. If Napalm is really doing a crap job we can still reconsider. Since I doubt that he will screw it up so badly, I doubt that we will have to rework the menus. To be honest, I like most of the concepts we have come up with so far. This includes the shots here and the ones Napalm is working on. I can't really decide which one I like btter, because these here also have a very good quality about them as NH puts it. But since we decided already that we will use the other one, and this is already progressed quite a lot, there is no room for redesigning this now. Of course nobody can be stpped to create his own version of the menu, but this is not part of the mod and we will not include it as an alternative. for a simlpe reason. The menu is a kind of introduction and also like a business card. A game is identified with it's menu, and we don't want to spoil that just because we can't decide. It's one thign to include alternative weapon designes, but a totally different issue to include alternative menu and intro screens. The next thing will be that we also include multiple version of intro AVIs because we can't decide what we should use? No way. Quote Gerhard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparhawk Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 I haven't seen it. THere's no point working secretly for months on something and then springing it on us. If it's better than this one, then we'll use it, if it's not, then we aren't going to use it just becasue he spent two months woking on it. The concepts fot the menu that Napalm is working on, has been shown long ago. Just because he is not far enough to actually show screenshots, doesn't mean he is "springing it on us" because we agreed to the design and we gave him the job to work on it, and this is what he does. Don't know how you would feel about ti, if we suddenly decided that we no longer want teh Revenant in it's current appearence and you have to redo it totally from scratch. Quote Gerhard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oDDity Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 The concepts fot the menu that Napalm is working on, has been shown long ago. Just because he is not far enough to actually show screenshots, doesn't mean he is "springing it on us" because we agreed to the design and we gave him the job to work on it, and this is what he does. Don't know how you would feel about ti, if we suddenly decided that we no longer want teh Revenant in it's current appearence and you have to redo it totally from scratch. That's not the same thing. A comparison would be me taking a few months to do a model in secret, but in the meantime someone else completes and shows you a better model (as if) and you decide to go with that one insteaf. Not very likely, but if it did happen, I'd be the first one to say 'use the better model'. YOu can't decide which one you will use before you've seen all of the designs. The bottom line should always be that we're willing to change for a better idea or design regardless of how much time of effort has gone into it. We'll have a good old vote when the time comes. Quote Civillisation will not attain perfection until the last stone, from the last church, falls on the last priest. - Emil Zola character models site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparhawk Posted September 30, 2005 Report Share Posted September 30, 2005 Fact is: BOTH concepts are pretty old. Both concepts have been evaluated by us with lengthy discussions. We decided to go for the one which is currently in development. Just ebcause the actual implementation is done "in secret" doesn't change the concept, because in this case the concept and the implementation is visually the same. It's not as with a model, where you get a concept drawing which is much better because of all the freedom and you turn it into a mediocre model, that resembles the concept somewhat. In this case we can be pretty sure that the concept is exactly like the implementation because the concept IS already the actual sreen, with just the buttons being added to be usable. At least this is the idea. There is not as much freedom in the menus as with modelling. Quote Gerhard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i can send you the package via ftp or make a temporary link avaliable on my old site but it would be taken down within a day so let me know when you are ready.· 3 replies
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