i would like to apply as betamapper (suprise!)

[Theothesnopp]

yeh i kind of feel like im a "hanger on" (i think the word is)

 

well thanks for the help and if you want to stop with the eeh helping me you can stop and i can try to continue

 

i cant find the words im looking for sorry

[Fidcal]

No need to apologize. You probably never got the right guidance.

 

Yes, I tend to agree with Flanders. Here is a summary:

 

ALL the parts that work were VERY slow to dmap.

 

Part B works

Part A crashes to desktop with memory allocation error

 

A subdivided into Aa & Ab...

Ab is VERY slow during dmap but works

Aa crashes to desktop with memory allocation error

 

Aa subdivided into AaA & AaB...

AaA works

AaB works

 

So, every part works but not altogether. This suggests over-complex brush & patchwork with fine or no gridsnapping so overloading the compiler.

 

I would normally work for 20 or 30 minutes, maybe an hour, saving regularly, and renaming the map at least once an hour, sometimes more. Then dmap and try what you have so far. Deal with any errors. Then continue. I typically get dozens of errors - but spread out over scores of sessions and it usually obvious where the error started. If I just made a door and get an error then I only need look at the door not an entire world.

 

So, as Flanders says and I agree, split it up and get each part working. This time split it very carefully into about 5 or 6 areas. You will find one or two entities might be split like the door handle I mentioned earlier. So its origin may end up in one map and its patchwork in another! Consider deleting and restoring later anything like that.

 

In each section, seal it off with caulk and give it a very long dmap maybe 20 or 30 minutes or more. Might be wise to use dmap noAAS in the beginning as this saves time and does not calculate pathfinding. Then condump console.txt and see the warning errors. Mostly not serious but just too many.

 

Best to fix any leaks first. There are a couple which go straight through a brush which is too thin. Brushes against the void need to be at least 8 units thick I think it is. There are also one or two collision models missing and other entity errors. I suggest delete or replace them for now. Make a note if necessary. Worry about them later. Once you can dmap a section successfully then...

 

Set the grid in the editor to about 4 or 8 and go carefully through the map and see what you can gridsnap. You won't get them all snapped to the same grid but try to get the main brushwork, walls etc. on the same grid and only special fine details should use a finer grid. Your aim is to avoid too many lines that don't quite meet like this...

 

Aim for more like this. Note that not everything is on the grid but the main walls and pillars etc. and just detail and trim might be half or a quarter the grid.

 

As you work through save regularly with a new name and dmap to test. If something goes badly wrong just reload an earlier save and try again. You don't have to get rid of every console warning but try to reduce them significantly.

 

Hope that helps. Keep asking.

[Theothesnopp]

okey ill have to read that through a few times cuz i cant hand´le to much complicated english at the time

 

a question just could u upload the files here cuz im on another computer and i wont get to the computer wtih the files for like a week or two

 

so if u could send it it would be great

[Fidcal]

Download from the link you put up in this thread. You need to start from there and divide it. The ones I split up are rough - there are parts missing and other errors so when joined together again there may be problems. For instance, leaks I fixed crudely. Some entity errors I just deleted the enitities. I changed ambient lighting as I couldn't see well. Added player starts. I can upload the parts I made if you like though. Maybe you prefer to put them together. Up to you.

[Theothesnopp]

Download from the link you put up in this thread. You need to start from there and divide it. The ones I split up are rough - there are parts missing and other errors so when joined together again there may be problems. For instance, leaks I fixed crudely. Some entity errors I just deleted the enitities. I changed ambient lighting as I couldn't see well. Added player starts. I can upload the parts I made if you like though. Maybe you prefer to put them together. Up to you.

 

 

oh yeah i uploaded it here i forgot about that

[Springheel]

Yes, those scenes are very promising.

 

Those screens do look good, especially with the bloom. I do have bloom enabled but it doesn't look like that on my screen,

 

Are you sure there's bloom in those shots?

[Theothesnopp]

Yes, those scenes are very promising.

 

 

 

Are you sure there's bloom in those shots?

 

 

whats bloom? lol

 

i hear everyone talk about it all the time its getting confusing

[Fidcal]

I do have bloom set recently but ashamed to say I don't understand it!

[Flanders]

whats bloom? lol

 

i hear everyone talk about it all the time its getting confusing

Wikipedia has all the answers

Basically it makes light areas more fuzzy which makes things more graphically appealing to some and unrealistic to others .

 

Here's a topic on Bloom in Saint Lucia

[jdude]

YAY congrats Theothesnopp on betamapper status

[Theothesnopp]

YAY congrats Theothesnopp on betamapper status

 

 

thanks im trying to get the svn working now =D

 

i dont really get it yet :/

[Theothesnopp]

i wont be able to work with the map for a while,

 

im trying to downlod the darkmod assets vie the tortoise and its like max 20 kbits per second and if i open up radiant it jumps to 2kbits per second :/

 

this will take around 5 days i think

[greebo]

Huh? DarkRadiant shouldn't affect your download speed at all.

[Tels]

Huh? DarkRadiant shouldn't affect your download speed at all.

 

Maybe the computer is swapping itself to death?

[greebo]

Well, in this case a RAM upgrade is in order anyway, otherwise working on a map of larger scale (>10000 brushes and many textures) is masochistic in the first place.

[Theothesnopp]

Maybe the computer is swapping itself to death?

 

 

well i have tortured my computer a bit

 

but yeh whenever ánything is up it reduces the download rate

 

i am on a laptop right now (dont have d3 here) so internet i can acces to but i cant have anything up on my other computer :/

[Fidcal]

The download speed does vary with server useage so hopefully you will find other times when it speeds up and the average is higher.

[Theothesnopp]

hey i dunno were to ask this so i hope theres no problem asking here

 

the svn tortoise freezed so i canceled this and i cant find the svn > cleanup button and i dont really feel like waiting 2 more days

 

any ideas what i could do, meanwhile i can try to fix my map

[Flanders]

just rmb on the folder tortoise svn->clean up. If it doesn't clean up then check in the hidden folders (each folder in darkmod has a hidden folder .svn) if there are any lock files in there delete them and try to clean up again.

[Theothesnopp]

just rmb on the folder tortoise svn->clean up. If it doesn't clean up then check in the hidden folders (each folder in darkmod has a hidden folder .svn) if there are any lock files in there delete them and try to clean up again.

 

 

ok it works again thanks

[Theothesnopp]

yaay it is finaly finish in the end it speeded up to 100 kbs so it went faster than i thought it would

 

so i can get to fix with the tempname map :/

[Retsaki]

havn't tried your map yet, i'll get around to it...eventually =)

 

looks awesome though!

[Theothesnopp]

havn't tried your map yet, i'll get around to it...eventually =)

 

looks awesome though!

 

 

haha thanks

 

and good luck with the beta mapper status im sure u'll make it =D

[Theothesnopp]

im ashamed 2 say ill give up (atm) with the map.

 

i have no clue how to do this kind of thing but im gonna make something else and hopefully this time it will work, i think it will since ive learnt my mistake.

 

so every new section i make needs to be tested

 

 

ill save the map since i might fix it in the future or copy and paste stuff from the map

 

 

 

ive already started something new.

 

after i have played lots of those hl1 horror mods i found inspiration and im starting with a horror map =D

 

 

edit: lots of theese horror maps usually needs custom scripts.

 

im a big forum parasite when it comes to scripting so anyone knows where i can get help with the d3 scripting?

[HappyCheeze]

im ashamed 2 say ill give up (atm) with the map.

 

i have no clue how to do this kind of thing but im gonna make something else and hopefully this time it will work, i think it will since ive learnt my mistake.

 

Don't feel too bad. I've had to abandon some projects before, and so have others. Its a way of learning the hard way, but you'll become a better mapper through it