Bikerdude: - questions

[Bikerdude]

tdm_show_loot

Thanks for thet BC, but what about total loot..?

 

Another question:

 

Can Ai use elevators..? if use is there a wiki howto guide..?

[Mortem Desino]

"tdm_show_loot" spits out total loot and other loot counts in the console.

[Baddcog]

Yes and I believe yes.

 

The trick is having some kindof walkable platform for the AI. I glanced over somthing last night but I was searching for sounds/alerting sounds when I saw it.

 

Oh, search for movers

 

(not sure if the prefabs/mechanical/elevator is set up for AI or not)

[Bikerdude]

"tdm_show_loot" spits out total loot and other loot counts in the console.

Sweet..

 

hmm may have to leave the Ai & elevator for another time then..

Edited August 12, 2010 by Bikerdude

[Fidcal]

You guys love to make things difficult for yourselves.

 

Yes, there is a fully working elevator system which the AI can use. The only restriction is that currently it has to be their only route. If there is an alternative like stairs then they will use that even if it is further.

 

Yes, there is a fully comprehensive wiki article.

 

There is a fully working prefab so you only have to insert it. It is three floors but if you only want two then just delete the top button in the elevator and either delete the upper part or obscure it.

[Bikerdude]

You guys love to make things difficult for yourselves.

lol, yeah I know. I'll leave it for now.

[Bikerdude]

Question:

 

Am i correct to assume that Func_Statics are just like models as far as Ai are concerned, in that they dont see them - so will try to walk through it or if its stairs not be able to walk on them etc...

[Baddcog]

correct.

 

But the monster clip doesn't have to be exact, just a ramp below the strais is fine.

I think they can walk like 48 units above clip.

 

The AF file sets their ankle to waist distance, and that's what controls how their feet hit the steps. So their brain sees the ramp and their feet see the steps.

 

 

[Bikerdude]

But the monster clip doesn't have to be exact, just a ramp below the strais is fine.

well I have been using ramps for the last 2 maps, but just wanted to be sure. Sometime when the stairs are steep, I used a clip textures for both the player and Ai, and then just put a nodraw material patch just above for footstep sound.

[Bikerdude]

question:

 

Keys, doors and Ai -

 

I have a gate and a guard and I have the following args on him -

 

"def_attach6" "atdm:prop_silverkey"
"pos_attach6" "belt_back_right"
"name_attach6" "gate_key"
"set inv_name on key_private" "gate key"
"set name on key_private" "gate_key"
"used_by" "gate_key"

 

The gate has "used by" "gate_key" & "used_by1" "guard". The guard cant unlock gate and when I pickpocket the key it dosent have the right name (silver key), which is why I assume he cant unlock the gate.

 

What am i doing wrong.

Edited August 18, 2010 by Bikerdude

[Fidcal]

I'm not so familiar with these def attach methods but here goes:

 

used_by should go on the gate

 

You are naming the key entity: gate_key (I think) but are setting the inv name etc on key_private. I think that line should be "name_attach6" "key_private" or else the other two want changing to gate_key

[Bikerdude]

You are naming the key entity: gate_key (I think) but are setting the inv name etc on key_private. I think that line should be "name_attach6" "key_private" or else the other two want changing to gate_key

ah so it should be as follows -

"def_attach6" "atdm:prop_silverkey"
"pos_attach6" "belt_back_right"
"name_attach6" "gate_key"
"set inv_name on gate_key" "gate key"
"set name on gate_key" "gate_key"

 

sweet that fixed it - I have updated the wiki as it wasn't clear etc.

Edited August 18, 2010 by Bikerdude

[Bikerdude]

Question:

 

Is it possible to put images/art into readable's..?

 

Also regarding the Ai/key subject above, I know I can set no spawned keys to dropable but when I do the same with spawned keys it leqaves them in mid air...

Edited August 19, 2010 by Bikerdude

[Fidcal]

Question:

 

Is it possible to put images/art into readable's..?

 

Yes, I've got a working version of this. It is possible to put the graphics right on the same background page within the gui but I find there was lag so it was best to change each background. Basically:

 

• 
   
  
• extract the the gui you chose for your xdata
  
• Rename it eg, mygraphicbook1.gui
  
• Extract the background image named in it
  
• Add your graphic to it in paint prog and save as eg mybackground1
  
• Repeat for all pages
  
• In the xdata change the gui names for each page.
  

 

 

Also regarding the Ai/key subject above, I know I can set no spawned keys to dropable but when I do the same with spawned keys it leqaves them in mid air...

 

This would need some examination of the prop def. Maybe they were never moveables.

[Bikerdude]

Ok thisd is a question and a rant:

 

why is it so fucking hard to get Ai to sleep on a bed and the right height. Either they clip some part of the bed and or monsterclip so end up a foot in the air, or they are partially sink into the matress..

 

ggrrr...

Edited August 19, 2010 by Bikerdude

[Fidcal]

Dunno. Sometimes they seem just right and other times it's impossible without some devious fiddling. Here's one I did the other month:

 

The bed is solid 0. The brushwork is worldspawn and its textures/common/tdm_nodrawsolid_cloth. Sometimes you might need that to be lower than the bed height. In this case it is about exactly the same or slightly higher. The thing is, it gives you control. Monsterclip around the lot. He animates right through it.

 

 

[Bikerdude]

I remember the bed thing, as you told me ages ago - but it seems the only option is the one you have above..

 

What would be extremely hand is if the AF lay the level the path-sleep is set at regardless of surroundings or furniture.

[Fidcal]

It might work if it was a fixed height above the standing position at the side of the bed and just ignored the bed. It's almost like the code is trying to adjust and getting it wrong. Most beds are a set height or ought to be. They can be slightly lowered into the floor or raised up on small blocks unnoticeably anyway. But as it is, it is difficult to figure out what they are going to do except by trial and error. With a fixed height from standing that never changes (or indeed could have a spawnarg offset for a small amount say plus or minus 10 or 20) then one can adjust the bed.

 

I had some weird effects in Heart where in one room one sleeper sank through the bed to the floor, the next slept on the floor next to the bed facing the wrong way! (even though I had set the spawnarg) and the third floated a few inches high over the bed. In another room a similar guard was low in the bed.

[Baddcog]

And yet that sick girl is perfectly tucked in everytime

 

As far as I know there is no standard height for beds. And they were all made by different people so...

[Bikerdude]

Question:

 

Is there a simple way of getting Ai to look like they are talking to each other, as Ive heard Ai say hello or same such when walking past each other.

[Fidcal]

Yes. If you just want them to face each other then use a path_wait and turn it to face the other AI. I've used that here and there, for instance near the start of Alchemist the patrolling guard comes and stands looking at the tavern guard. From down the street it looks like they may be muttering to each other. If you want something more elaborate then use a conversation entity (see wiki.)

[Bikerdude]

2 questions:

• Where is the wiki article with regard briefing intro movies..?
• and wtf is this error in the dmap compile and why is it coinciding with my Ai not following their paths correctly (see attached condump)

WARNING: node without a volume

WARNING: node without a volume

WARNING: node without a volume

WARNING: node without a volume

WARNING: node without a volume

 

&

 

------------- Warnings ---------------

during compiling AAS...

WARNING: brush 1587 on entity 0 is unbounded( -111.36 609.52 1112.00 )-( -107.

95 615.58 1124.73 )-( 3.41 6.07 12.73 )

WARNING: brush 1591 on entity 0 is unbounded( -111.36 609.52 1112.00 )-( -107.

95 615.58 1124.73 )-( 3.41 6.07 12.73 )

WARNING: brush 575 on entity 0 is unbounded( 469.14 466.91 103.40 )-( 484.00 4

68.00 208.00 )-( 14.85 1.09 104.60 )

WARNING: brush 575 on entity 0 is unbounded( 469.14 466.91 103.40 )-( 484.04 4

76.11 208.00 )-( 14.89 9.21 104.60 )

4 warnings

------------- Warnings ---------------

during compiling AAS...

WARNING: brush 1587 on entity 0 is unbounded( -111.36 609.52 1112.00 )-( -107.

95 615.58 1124.73 )-( 3.41 6.07 12.73 )

WARNING: brush 1591 on entity 0 is unbounded( -111.36 609.52 1112.00 )-( -107.

95 615.58 1124.73 )-( 3.41 6.07 12.73 )

WARNING: brush 575 on entity 0 is unbounded( 469.14 466.91 103.40 )-( 484.00 4

68.00 208.00 )-( 14.85 1.09 104.60 )

WARNING: brush 575 on entity 0 is unbounded( 469.14 466.91 103.40 )-( 484.04 4

76.11 208.00 )-( 14.89 9.21 104.60 )

4 warnings

]condump stalban.txt

Dumped console text to stalban.txt.

 

stalban.txt

Edited August 24, 2010 by Bikerdude

[Bikerdude]

bump

[Springheel]

No ideas, sorry.

[nbohr1more]

I could only find these about the Mission Screen:

 

http://wiki.thedarkmod.com/index.php?title=Playing_ROQ_Video_Files

 

http://wiki.thedarkmod.com/index.php?title=Splash_Screen

 

And this about the node error:

 

http://wiki.thedarkmod.com/index.php?title=Path_Nodes

 

 

???