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#1 Bikerdude

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 05:50 AM

Thought I would compile a list of tweaks & fixes from multiple sources for this game in an effort to help people get a playable experience, I will update this OP as we go.

Minimum Requirements -

  • Processor: Dual Core or Quad Core CPU
  • RAM: 4 GB
  • Graphics: AMD Radeon 4800 series or NVidia GTS 250
  • DirectX: Version 10
  • Hard Drive: 20 GB

Recommended Requirements -

  • Operating Systems: Windows 7, Windows 8 (32nit or 64-bit)
  • Processor: AMD FX 8000 series, Intel Quad i7 Core or better CPU
  • RAM: 4 GB
  • Graphics: AMD Radeon HD R9 series, NVidia GTX 660 series or better
  • DirectX: Version 11

First recommened tweak for ALL 64bit Windows users - (dont know if this applies to linux users, yet)

  • The latest update (1.2 b4116.4) fixes the slowdown issue but if people still having issue or have lower end systems there is not a tick box to force the use opf the 32bit exe.

Second Recommended Tweaks for ALL 32/64bit Windows users -

  • Enable "Exclusive FullScreen", this should improve your framerate across the board. - for me my FPS (min/max/avg) jumped from 32/62/53 to 41/64/58

Graphics tweaks to Make the game run better -

  • First things first - If you are experiencing bad graphics on a machine that can easily afford to run it better/smoother, set SSAA ‘Super Sampling Anti-Aliasing’ to low or off. The higher you set this setting, the more lag you will encounter in the game.
  • Don’t take things for granted - The problem is the optimization of the game, even if your PC can handle everything max'd out, try keeping SSAA to low if you want a smoother gameplay experience.
  • Flickering shadows, glichy graphics & disappearing menu buttons - If you are experiencing flickering shadows, glitchy graphics & disappearing menu items, make sure you are running the game on updated or the latest drivers for your gfx card.
  • SLI/Crossfire fix - For now, make sure you run the game on a single GPU as SLI/Crossfire may be causing the disappearing graphics and flickering shadows.
  • Framerate issues - There are a few things you can try to improve your FPS for thief. Firstly make sure that your GPU drivers are up to date and your system is not overheating or running hot. If you are running SLI/Crossfire, try disabling to see if there is a difference in performance. If you are using a laptop, make sure that your power adapter is plugged and your power setting in windows is set to performance.
  • Common sense - It goes without saying that your system should be good enough to handle the game’s processing and rendering needs. If you are running any third party applications in the background like Dxtory, Shadowplay or FRAPS etc, your going to see a perf drop.
  • Crashes after loading a stage -
  • If Thief crashed after loading, make sure you verify the integrity of the game cache in Steam especially if you pre-loaded the game and tried to start it as soon as it unlocked.
  • You may have to verify the files twice to make it work! If that doesn’t work, there is another workaround. I am not sure about this fix but it has helped a few to get rid of the crash, so I think it’s worth of a shot.
  • The game crash can be associated with the virtual memory size. You should increase your virtual memory page file size to fix the issue.
  • Game crashes to desktop and reboot - Make sure you have latest patch for the game installed. It fixes these random crashes and loading issues. If you pre-loaded the game, make sure you verify the integrity of the game cache. You may have to verify the files twice to make it work!
  • Blackscreen when launching thief - can be one of two things -
    • is associated with the missing files of the game. Verify the game cache and re-verify if the need be to get it running.
    • Make sure Windows pagefile is enabled (http://windows.micro....#1TC=windows-7).
  • Can’t Hear sound? No voices? (no, not the ones in your head) - Verify the integrity of the game cache. Download the language packs if need be. Make sure you have voices/music volume up in the sound settings of the game.
    • You can also trying changing the advanced sound settings in Windows. Open Playback Devices, click on your Speakers and go to Properties. Now in enhancement levels, select CD/DVD quality and see if it helps.
  • Thief won’t start? - Try logging into Steam after having logged out. It will help!

Thief config tweaks -

  • Disable motion blur - you will find relative file to edit in: Steam\steamapps\common\Thief\Engine\Config. You need to open the file by the name of “BaseEngine.ini” and then set the following values as such:
    • "motionBlur=True" to "motionBlur=False"
    • "motionBluPause=True" to "motionBlurPause=False"
    • Save the file and set it to "read-only".
  • How to skip Intro Videos - Go to Thief\ThiefGame\Config and then Locate ThiefEngine.ini file and edit the following line
    • "StartupMovies=PROG_GUI_Video.StartupVideoPlayer" to ";StartupMovies=PROG_GUI_Video.StartupVideoPlayer"
    • Save the file and set it to "read-only".
  • How to fix ‘Timed Fade’ option for HUD - While health, focus, inventory and ammo set to ‘Timed Fade’ option in game and HUD menu, the fade remains just 50% opacity. To fix this problem, go to ThiefGame\Config\ThiefUI.ini and find the lines-
    • "mInvSelectionAlphaMin=XX"
      "mHealthAlphaMin=XX"
      "mFocusAlphaMin=XX"
      (XX being the default values)
      to
      "mInvSelectionAlphaMin=0.0f"
      "mHealthAlphaMin=0.0f"
      "mFocusAlphaMin=0.0f"
    • Save the file and set it to "read-only".
  • How to reduce Mouse Lag - The quick and easy fix to reduce mouse lag, run your game in Exclusive Fullscreen mode, go to graphic options and enable it. In case you don’t want to use this mode, then you must find BaseEndinge.ini and edit the following lines -
    • "OneFrameThreadLag=TRUE"
      to
      "OneFrameThreadLag=FALSE"
    • Save the file and set it to "read-only".
  • Disable framerate smoothing - Go to Thief\ThiefGame\Config and then Locate ThiefEngine.ini file and edit the following lines
    • "bSmoothFrameRate=TRUE"
      "MinSmoothedFrameRate=XX"
      "MaxSmoothedFrameRate=XX"
      (XX being the default values)
      to
      "bSmoothFrameRate=FALSE"
      "MinSmoothedFrameRate=0"
      "MaxSmoothedFrameRate=0"
    • Save the file and set it to "read-only".
  • Fix stuttering - can be done one of two ways -
    • This tweak requires starting a new game, as changing the level streaming value will result in a crash upon loading if the save game file features a different level streaming value (such as starting the game with it on TRUE and changing it to FALSE along the way - switching from FALSE to TRUE will also result in a crash, so it's best to change this value only when starting a new game)! However, this should help eliminate both in-game and benchmark stuttering, as it does for the other games based on the UE3 engine.
      • Go to Thief\ThiefGame\Config and then Locate ThiefEngine.ini file and edit the following lines -
      • "bUseBackgroundLevelStreaming=XX"
        "UsePriorityStreaming=XX"
        "OnlyStreamInTextures=XX"

        to
        "bUseBackgroundLevelStreaming=FALSE"
        "UsePriorityStreaming=FALSE"
        "OnlyStreamInTextures=TRUE"
      • Save the file and set it to "read-only".
  • Improve texture streaming - Go to Thief\ThiefGame\Config and then Locate ThiefEngine.ini file and edit the following lines -
    • "MipFadeInSpeed0=0.3"
      "MipFadeOutSpeed0=0.1"
      "MipFadeInSpeed1=2.0"
      "MipFadeOutSpeed1=1.0"

      to
      "MipFadeInSpeed0=0.0"
      "MipFadeOutSpeed0=0.0"
      "MipFadeInSpeed1=0.0"
      "MipFadeOutSpeed1=0.0"
    • Save the file and set it to "read-only".
  • Disable in-game fog -
    • Go to Thief\ThiefGame\Config ThiefGame.ini and then find [Engine.WorldInfo] andgo to line 66
    • And then change mbEnable=TRUE to mbEnable=FALSE and then save the file as read only.
  • Reducing choppyness, aditional fix -
    • Some users have reported that disabling Vsync the game is noticeably more fluid when compared to the default setting of double buffered.

Game file hacks - (found on https://www.deadendt...f-tools-tweaks)

 

1. Goto Steam\steamapps\common\Thief\ThiefGame\CookedPCNG\
2. Make a backup of thiefgame.u just in case
3. Download this utility: decompress.zip and unzip decompress.exe, put it anywhere.
4. Drag thiefgame.u onto decompress.exe you should now have a new thiefgame.u in \Steam\steamapps\common\Thief\ThiefGame\CookedPCNG\unpacked\
5. Open \Steam\steamapps\common\Thief\ThiefGame\CookedPCNG\unpacked\thiefgame.u in a hex editor. (For example HxD)

 

  • Disable Shroud and white flash -
    • Goto Steam\steamapps\common\Thief\ThiefGame\CookedPCNG\
    • Make a backup of thiefgame.u
    • Download this utility: decompress.zip and unzip decompress.exe, put it anywhere.
    • To disable shroud:
      Search for Hex-value: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 CD CC 4C 3F 36 3D 00
      Replace with Hex-value: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 36 3D 00
    • To disable white flash:
      Search for Hex-value: 3E 9C DE F4 3E 9C DE F4 3E CD CC CC 3E A4 3D 00
      Replace with Hex-value: 3E 9C DE F4 3E 9C DE F4 3E 00 00 00 00 A4 3D 00
    • Tweaking "in shadow" proxy light: - disabling this is not recommended, so I added tweaks to reduce the range of the light instead.

      Search for Hex-value: 00 00 00 00 00 B4 43 14 38 00 00 00 00 00 00 28

      for half range (180), Replace with Hex-value: 00 00 00 00 00 34 43 14 38 00 00 00 00 00 00 28
      for 1/4 range (90), Replace with Hex-value: 00 00 00 00 00 b4 42 14 38 00 00 00 00 00 00 28
    • To Disable "in light" proxy light:
      Search for Hex-value: 00 00 00 00 00 96 43 14 38 00 00 00 00 00 00 28
      Replace with Hex-value: 00 00 00 0A D7 23 3C 14 38 00 00 00 00 00 00 28

Save and fire up the game.

 

Dxtory and other tools not working -

  • Fps monitoring/benchmarking tools cause the game to crash - For the time being, may I suggest that you try running the game without these tools. And if you have any fix of your own related to the issue, please post your finding.

Trainer with NOCLIP mode -

  • tbc

Edited by Bikerdude, 10 May 2018 - 04:50 AM.


#2 Bikerdude

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 05:58 AM

Recommended settings for mid to low end PC

tbc



#3 Bikerdude

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 05:58 AM

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 02:24 PM

Major thanks
Going to 32 bit fixed the unplayable framerate and all I need to do is the rest of the graphics tweaks if I need them

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 02:38 PM

Going to 32 bit fixed the unplayable framerate and all I need to do is the rest of the graphics tweaks if I need them

Awesome, I can also recommend you enable "Exclusive FullScreen" that gave me another speed jump.

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 02:39 PM

Thanks for putting that all together biker.

I noticed there's quite a few "Thief 4" topics in the forum right now - was thinking it would be really funny if TDM actually created a dedicated Thief 4 forum. :laugh:

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 02:40 PM

Awesome, I can also recommend you enable "Exclusive FullScreen" that gave me another speed jump.


Really? I didn't enable that because I had no idea what it was. I'll have to try that.

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 02:40 PM

Thanks for putting that all together biker.

I noticed there's quite a few "Thief 4" topics in the forum right now - was thinking it would be really funny if TDM actually created a dedicated Thief 4 forum. :laugh:


Give it two weeks and I bet there won't be much left to discuss.... :P

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 02:44 PM

Thanks for putting that all together biker.

No probs, figured it would easier getting it on our own forum then googling for it. Ironically this thread is one of only 4 on the web atm with this info, so if you guys spot stuff that's not in there let me know asap. the only bit of info I'm sketchy on atm in the' Motionblur disable' tweak the info I found seems to conflict with itself, so i am testing this out atm.

Really? I didn't enable that because I had no idea what it was. I'll have to try that.

Yeah, for me my FPS (min/max/avg) jumped from 32/62/53 to 41/64/58.

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 04:27 PM

You can also skip the intro videos by hitting ESC once. :)

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 04:31 PM

You can also skip the intro videos by hitting ESC once.

Yup, saves the one keystroke by disabling them altogether.

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 04:57 PM

@Lux, just tried nV surround and apart from being dog slow 14/28/22 the game appears to be horrible broken. The main menu is horribly oyt of kilter and at the start of the benchmark I could see stuff being incompletely rendered in the left and right screens.

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 05:50 PM

This might be the fix everyone has been looking for - disabling the Shroud:

http://forums.eidosg...27&postcount=27

Edited by brethren, 28 February 2014 - 05:50 PM.


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Posted 28 February 2014 - 06:34 PM

Sweet Jesus! :)


I still hope that we'll get to hear the story behind the shroud one day. There has to be a reason why they would not give the option to disable it, even though it was almost universally disliked.

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 06:35 PM

Its not broken, Biker, per-se, its ..relocated (the menus). I've had that issue with other games when using multiple monitors. Use the arrow keys and enter to adjust.

If you mouse around you'll see that off to the right and down (different with different menus) and by that I mean maybe an inch or two to the left of the button you're trying to click and down about 3/4" from the button you're trying to click, you'll see the buttons highlight. You can't click directly on them.

Its like the usable button overlay doesn't size correctly with the graphic. Either way the arrow keys and enter work fine.

EDIT: @Springheel --sweet jesus what?

Edited by Lux, 28 February 2014 - 06:39 PM.


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Posted 28 February 2014 - 06:56 PM

EDIT: @Springheel --sweet jesus what?

becasue we have found the fiox for turning of that damn shroud -

Open explorer to your game folder, go to ThiefGame > Config folder and open ThiefGame.ini in Notepad/Wordpad. Look for this line:

mbForceHideCloakEffect=0;

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 07:06 PM

Apparently it appears to have turned itself back on after a save game....but I wonder if settings from a previous save may have been pulled into his game.

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 07:22 PM

Apparently it appears to have turned itself back on after a save game....but I wonder if settings from a previous save may have been pulled into his game.

And...thats is why I am now not starting a new game. That means there is a parent file that ThiefGame.ini pulls that info from, that said did you make the ini file ReadOnly..?

But on the subject of having to do it with a new save game, Im betting there is an ini file in the save game folder, but WTF is that folder..?

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 07:56 PM

But on the subject of having to do it with a new save game, Im betting there is an ini file in the save game folder, but WTF is that folder..?

Looks like the boys over on TTLG are having a good stab at this -

http://www.ttlg.com/...ad.php?t=143411

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 08:13 PM

And...thats is why I am now not starting a new game. That means there is a parent file that ThiefGame.ini pulls that info from, that said did you make the ini file ReadOnly..?


I don't have the game myself, I'm just relaying what I read on the EM forums. Targa on ttlg is the same person who posted on the EM forums

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 09:47 PM

I'm going to be holding off playing more until they fix the shadow glitch. Maybe by then someone will figure out how to keep the shroud off.

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 10:15 PM

I'm going to be holding off playing more until they fix the shadow glitch. Maybe by then someone will figure out how to keep the shroud off.

I've gottten as far as Stonemarket and for the most part i don't see the Cloak anymore, I wouldn't waste valuable play time waiting for this fix.

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 10:21 PM

Just wanted to add to this, that the newest ATI drivers fix the missing letters when crossfire is enabled.

Also while FPS monitoring doesn't work you can use system monitoring software with on screen display. I use RivaTuner Statistics Server as the OSD, in conjunction with HWInfo64 to get things like GPU temps, usage, and cpu usage and temps etc to display on screen while playing.

I always assumed I'd taste like boot leather.

 

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 10:42 PM

I've gottten as far as Stonemarket and for the most part i don't see the Cloak anymore


I can't handle the white flashes.

Although it's a moot point, as the game is pretty much unplayable for me with the shadow glitch.

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 10:47 PM

Unfortunately you need a new computer man. However any new graphics card will be horribly hobbled by your CPU.
While my desktop destroys this game and is smooth as silk, my laptop which runs a Core2Quad Extreme 9300 Overclocked to 3.2Ghz, and a Radeon M5870, it is barely playable, getting 20-40 fps.

I always assumed I'd taste like boot leather.

 




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