Crucible of Omens: Behind Closed Doors - by Bikerdude & the Crucible Team (updated 18/12/2015)

[Bikerdude 3741]

If your seeing the wrong loading screen, then you need to uninstall SirTalbots and also run tdm_update to make sure you dont have any corrupt game giles in the darkmod folder.

[AluminumHaste 1065]

 

Okeedokee.

 

If AH gets me a savegame showing the exit problem, I just need to know which version he's using.

 

I had no problems finishing the mission. Once I got 5500+ loot, I went out the exit. Are you guys going all the way to the top of the stairs? My mission didn't finish until I went all the way to the door at the top of the stairs.

[AluminumHaste 1065]

@biker, I PMed you some screenshots.

[demagogue 1265]

PS: How can you end the mission manually? Never needed to do so before.

There are console commands useful for debugging or to get around a bug. Some people would rather not know because they're not good with temptation. But if you get this bug:

 

type "tdm_set_mission_completed 1" and "tdm_end_mission 1" in the console to manually end the mission.

 

[demagogue 1265]

I had no problems finishing the mission. Once I got 5500+ loot, I went out the exit. Are you guys going all the way to the top of the stairs? My mission didn't finish until I went all the way to the door at the top of the stairs.

I spent a lot of time at that door seeing if there was a way to get it open.

 

Did you get all the optional and bonus objectives? I did, so my first guess is one of them might have broken the end-game objective logic. Just a guess though.

[AluminumHaste 1065]

I did not get all the optional objectives as I was trying to get to the exit to see if it would fail.

I'll have to go back to my save game and finish them all then see if I get the same error.

[Bikerdude 3741]

thanks AH.

[Oldjim 154]

You have a PM with links to several save games where Mission Ending fails and when it doesn't

[demagogue 1265]

Curious. Take an F12 screenshot. Are they blacked out for the non-endable versions? (What would make that happen anyway?) I'm wondering if that's relevant or just a coincidence on my end. For the record, someone got the bug without doing the optional objectives in the TTLG thread.

 

Edit. The other theory is that it fails if you visit it before finishing the other objectives and get the voice over, which is true for me.

[Oldjim 154]

Screenshot works fine

 

EDIT

 

 

The other theory is that it fails if you visit it before finishing the other objectives and get the voice over, which is true for me.

 

This has always been the case for me which is why I could create the appropriate saves

Edited December 27, 2015 by Oldjim

[nbohr1more 2163]

I guess some of my "decorative read-ables" are too close to being historically accurate.

Some of the patrons of Darkfate forums accused me of "being lazy and copying and pasting from old documents or wiki entries"

[grayman 2974]

You have a PM with links to several save games where Mission Ending fails and when it doesn't

 

Can I get them also? I might be able to debug what's going on.

[AluminumHaste 1065]

 

Can I get them also? I might be able to debug what's going on.

Hey I sent you some more screenshots, are you going to put them up on moddb too?

[Bikerdude 3741]

@Nbhor can you put AH's shots on Moddb when you get a sec..?

[nbohr1more 2163]

Hey I sent you some more screenshots, are you going to put them up on moddb too?

 

Heh, I thought your first batch was small.

 

Images up at Moddb now!

[AluminumHaste 1065]

 

Edit. The other theory is that it fails if you visit it before finishing the other objectives and get the voice over, which is true for me.

 

I visited the exit and got the voice over before finishing the main objectives and it still worked for me.

Now I didn't go all the way up to the top of the stairs mind you.

 

I also just completed all optional objectives and I was able to exit the mission just fine. I can't get it to fail to finish.

[Oldjim 154]

You need to go to the top of the stairs (the normal finish trigger point) for it to glitch

[demagogue 1265]

Looking at DR (obj14) the one thing I see different from other FMs is how the loot is handled. The way I've typically seen is "...AND (8 OR 9 OR 10)". But changing it in a test didn't fix it, unless I can't test with the same save game.

[grayman 2974]

Looking at DR (obj14) the one thing I see different from other FMs is how the loot is handled. The way I've typically seen is "...AND (8 OR 9 OR 10)". But changing it in a test didn't fix it, unless I can't test with the same save game.

 

I noted this in the beta thread. It's one of the things I plan to look at. I'm not sure how the mission code applies precedence to AND and OR, but a requirement that reads 1 AND 2 OR (3 OR 4 OR 5), on the easy difficulty, is going to be 1 AND 2 OR 3. In coding, precedence rules say this is read as (1 AND 2) OR 3, which means all you have to do is collect all the loot and you're done. But, again, I'm not sure how the mission code reads it.

[Loa4ever 45]

Gz on the release , will try it.

[Azaran 4]

ok finished, took me 1:45, amazing mission, definitely going in my top 10.

I'm not sure what I did though, I'm almost 3000 short on loot, I'll have to go back in there and scour the whole map...

[Premier 7]

An excellent mission, I love it!

 

A question:

 

 

At the inn, I've found a diary in the basement referencing a coat rack and an attached mechanism. I've found the rack and frobbed the proper part of it, but nothing seems to happen in the immediate area other than a sound effect. The phrasing of the diary suggests that whatever was opened or changed might be directly above or below, since there's a cavity in the wall, probably for the mechanism. However, searching the other levels of the building yield nothing. Could someone please give me explicit directions to the spot where the mechanism changes something?

 

[nbohr1more 2163]

An excellent mission, I love it!

 

A question:

 

 

At the inn, I've found a diary in the basement referencing a coat rack and an attached mechanism. I've found the rack and frobbed the proper part of it, but nothing seems to happen in the immediate area other than a sound effect. The phrasing of the diary suggests that whatever was opened or changed might be directly above or below, since there's a cavity in the wall, probably for the mechanism. However, searching the other levels of the building yield nothing. Could someone please give me explicit directions to the spot where the mechanism changes something?

 

 

 

 

 

That coat rack opens a door a nearby secret door.

 

 

 

 

Stronger hint:

 

 

 

 

At the back of the closet near the entrance of the main pub room.

 

 

 

[Bob Necro 227]

At the portcullis at the power station, all objectives including optional ones finished, mission won't end. Something's fucky.

 

Also, trippy:

I've heard of remote locking systems, but this is ridiculous.

[grayman 2974]

At the portcullis at the power station, all objectives including optional ones finished, mission won't end. Something's fucky.

 

 

Did you arrive at the end before completing objectives, go back to finish off the ones you hadn't gotten to yet, then once again go to the end?