Affect of flash bombs on ghouls

[Oldjim]

I seem to remember in Thief that a ghoul could be killed using a flash bomb or holy water.

It doesn't appear that a flash bomb has any effect on ghouls in TDM

Is this a general rule or something which can be set by the mapper

 

Alternatively - is my memory faulty as I was thinking about Flakebridge

[grayman]

Flashbombs have no effect on undead because they can't see.

 

If Flakebridge behaves differently, the author set it up.

[Sotha]

I think the rationale went so that undead in TDM is not affected by light, because they have no physical eyes.

 

In Thief universe, the undead are supposedly creatures of darkness and night, and thus bright light hurts them.

 

I guess both point of views make sense in their own way.

[Oldjim]

Thanks

That is understandable

[esme]

They can't see ?

 

So if you just stand there & not make a noise they'll walk past you ?

[Oldjim]

No they don't

[grayman]

They can smell you.

[Xarg]

But only within line of sight. They're kinda weird like that.

[nbohr1more]

I always thought of it as some sort of psychic \ spiritual sense. Sorta how a Seer can purportedly find a body of a lost loved one.

[grayman]

But only within line of sight. They're kinda weird like that.

 

LOS = Line of Smell

[kano]

Just confirming that in Thief 1 (one of my favorite games), flash bombs will kill zombies, apparitions and haunts. It will gib the zombies, meaning they never get back up.

[stumpy]

mines kill zombies, so do fire arrows. flash bomb's blind guards and you, if you look in the wrong direction.

[demagogue]

Just tried to use a flashbomb on a zombie & wishing it worked, but that's just me.

[VanishedOne]

On seeing the thread title I wondered whether ghouls were being reinstated. (The wiki still lists TDM ghouls as distinct from zombies: see my comment here.)

 

I do miss that option from the point of view of equipment versatility, though at least TDM's zombies can be permanently killed with the sword.