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#201 Lux

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Posted 22 November 2016 - 06:37 PM

Seems like the best bet is to get a single seat Enterprise license which runs (i believe) about 6-8$ per month.  So 100ish $ per year and you can turn off Telemetry and disable auto updating of drivers at least.  Looks to me like this is the only way forward.

 

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This seems in-line with MS's desire to turn all their assets in to a subscription model.  If you want free or one-time fee then you get all the garbage that comes with it so MS can use your info for AD revenue.

 

What are you guys' thoughts?


Edited by Lux, 28 November 2016 - 05:37 AM.


#202 V-Man339

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Posted 25 November 2016 - 11:38 PM

A decade later and Windows 7 is still your best bet for an operating system for playing new and old games.

 

Wow, did Microsoft screw the pooch.


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#203 Bikerdude

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Posted 26 November 2016 - 03:55 AM

A decade later and Windows 7 is still your best bet for an operating system for playing new and old games.

And cert wise Win7 is still more secure than Win10 -

 

http://betanews.com/...-security-emet/



#204 kano

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Posted 05 February 2017 - 07:26 PM

http://www.ghacks.ne...nts-first-look/

 

Microsoft to users: "You'll use the Windows Store and you'll like it, even if we have to drag you in, kicking and screaming all the way."

 

When I saw the bottom screenshot in that article, I just had to make a quick correction.

 

http://i.imgur.com/l9oV6js.png

 

Dear Microsoft, a PC is not an Ipad or a game console. We're not going to be limited exclusively to getting apps from your store.



#205 Anderson

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Posted 06 February 2017 - 11:49 AM

http://www.ghacks.ne...nts-first-look/

 

Microsoft to users: "You'll use the Windows Store and you'll like it, even if we have to drag you in, kicking and screaming all the way."

 

When I saw the bottom screenshot in that article, I just had to make a quick correction.

 

http://i.imgur.com/l9oV6js.png

 

Dear Microsoft, a PC is not an Ipad or a game console. We're not going to be limited exclusively to getting apps from your store.

I don't usually agree with this person but when I do, it's this: 



#206 kano

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Posted 08 March 2017 - 08:23 PM

https://betanews.com...rer-windows-10/

 

I'm choking with laughter...



#207 woah

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Posted 12 March 2017 - 04:06 PM

So I have Windows 10 running again and I've successfully blocked the telemetry/forced updates:

 

1) Install openwrt/gargoyle custom firmware on your router (I already had this anyway)

2) Add a simple iptables rule (on your router in /etc/config/firewall) to DROP (not REJECT) all WAN traffic over all protocols from your windows PC by MAC address.  LAN traffic is still good.

3) Install and configure a SOCKS server on your openwrt router that simply forwards connections from clients right back onto your network (LAN and WAN).  Dante (aka "sockd") is in the repos and it supports TCP, UDP, ICMP as far as I can tell.

4) Install an application "proxifier" client on your WIndows PC and configure it for the SOCKS proxy server on your router.  Then selectively proxify each application.  I'm using SocksCap64 because it supports UDP and automatically proxifies child processes.  The application is freeware but proprietary (tries to load up an advertisement in its GUI but it fails to load since it doesn't connect to the advertisement through the SOCKS proxy).  If your Windows applications have integrated SOCKS proxy support, may as well use that.

 

As far as I can tell this works fine (at least with everything I've tested, including Steam and multiplayer games).  I realized that any software firewall / bandwidth shaper I installed in windows itself was likely going to get circumvented since ultimately the OS has control of everything up to your NIC.  There's probably some line of code in there that checks for internet connectivity before control ever reaches your userspace firewall/bandwidth shaper application.  But with the above setup, from the OS's perspective it just looks like I'm running Windows on a LAN-only connection.  So unless the OS opportunistically takes over the proxified applications's connections and tests for internet connectivity, I don't see them getting around this.

 

Will have to give this some more time of course and monitor things closely to ensure that there aren't any issues with this.  Can then write up a guide if anyone's interested.



#208 kano

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 11:06 AM

More lols for everyone!

 

https://betanews.com...windows-10-ads/

 

It is nice to see others waking up.



#209 Bikerdude

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 06:36 AM

Following on from Kano's post above, "Playable ad's"....

 

https://www.techpowe...s-windows-store

 

er...

 



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Posted 16 March 2017 - 12:19 PM

LOL.

 

Now Microsoft wont give you "security patches" if you have a pre-Windows 10 OS paired with

a new CPU:

 

https://support.micr...a-processor-tha

 

so that nifty workaround to get Windows 7 to install on Ryzen has been nullified I guess.

 

(Unless someone can somehow fool Windows Updates into thinking that it's running on an older CPU arch. CPUID spoofing etc.)


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#211 kano

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Posted 16 March 2017 - 05:42 PM

Nevermind, already posted here and can't delete.


Edited by kano, 16 March 2017 - 05:48 PM.


#212 Bikerdude

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Posted 16 March 2017 - 05:47 PM

You just create your own update pack to get around the above Bollox -

 

- https://www.google.c...JJKP38AebiaOIDg



#213 kano

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Posted 16 March 2017 - 05:52 PM

LOL.

 

Now Microsoft wont give you "security patches" if you have a pre-Windows 10 OS paired with

a new CPU:

I'm guessing that if you install Vista on one of these machines equipped with a brand new CPU, it will update just fine. Windows Update never gave a damn about what CPU was in the machine before as long as it was X86 compatible and its really fishy that it starts doing so now. And of course Microsoft has no reason to intentionally hobble Vista because its at something like 3% anyway. Windows 7 and 8.1, on the other hand...

 

By the way, Microsoft, Windows 8.1 is still supposed to be in the *mainstream support period*. I just thought you would like to know.


Edited by kano, 16 March 2017 - 05:53 PM.





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