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Nice. FWIW, I saw Black Parade crediting textures.com in their credits.avi. Not sure whether they've read the license, but Thief doesn't even use zip packages for content, just for storage. The whole stuff gets extracted during installation into a dedicated folder and it's fully accessible.

Looking at the code, the originals were "pm_mantle_pull 750" and "pm_mantle_pullFast 450". The new "pm_mantle_pull" value is "400". A "pm_mantle_pullFast" value of "450" would be slower than regular pull, not faster. With both being set to "400", they are at least similar. Other than that, it's subjective and the feedback from playtesters was positive. Also, referenced internally here: https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/22256-movementcontrols-settings-in-main-menu/&do=findComment&comment=489158

They're all being done in english I imagine. I presume other languages might be supported for subtitles based on the language choice in the main menu, haven't thought of it but maybe later that can be done... if so just running them through Google Translate will hopefully do the trick with enough accuracy to have this as an option.

I guess I have seen both approaches in games. Most of the games I played probably do it like TDM: can only quickload a quicksave file. But maybe that is just the old trend. Now I'm playing Prey, and apparently it quickloads the latest save, even if that was an automatic save. I must admit it is really annoying, because the game often decides to save me at random places, while I enjoy some save scumming and usually want to reset to the moment which I considered OK myself. So I quickload only to discover that some random autosave happened later, and then have to go to the menu in order to manually load the latest quicksave. I guess it is not annoying with manual saves though.

I've been asked to post about the increased mantle speed in 2.12 as some folks have been curious about the change. After a lengthy internal discussion along with testing and input by several mission authors, it was agreed internally to increase the mantle speed. But during 2.12 beta testing, we would like feedback on any bugs or issues that you find. The reason for the change was to address feedback from players that mantling was "painfully slow", "slow and clunky", "mantling sucks - it's just slow", and so on. Several mission authors supported making mantling faster, and so the dev team decided to tweak the mantle speed. There were multiple implementations with the final implementation being a compromise. Also, the dev team studied some parkour techniques to ensure that the mantle phases and timings were good enough. The changes include: The original mantle phases were kept as that is what longtime TDM players are used to, and only the duration of some phases were reduced. Changed the pull animation so that it has both acceleration and deceleration rather than just deceleration. Tweaked the swaying back and forth a bit to work better with the increased speed. When the player in forced into the crouch position at the end of a mantle, crouch near the end of the mantle rather than the beginning in order to remove the sudden "dip" of the player's view. A majority of dev team members were against adding a menu setting, so being able to toggle between the old and new mantle speeds will not happen. It is recommended that you try out different "Mantle Roll" values as some prefer "0.1" and others prefer "0.5". We hope you all enjoy this adjusted mantle speed, especially the overhead mantle, which is now more consistent with the other mantle types. Bug tracker: https://bugs.thedarkmod.com/view.php?id=6343

That sort of tone doesn't fly in our forums.

Someone else can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think they are the same thing, just different physical save files and are also managed a bit differently. Quick saves overwrite older quick saves, but two are kept instead of just one and the game manages these for you so you don't have to think about it. Menu saves as you've noticed you need manually manage, and provide a name, etc. Forgive me if I'm stating the obvious, but most players will use the menu to create 'hard saves' throughout the game to mark progress and as a failsafe in case they screw up their quick save (e.g. quick save right before you are about to die). Then they use the quick save to fill in the gaps because it's convenient. So they have different uses, which is why they are managed differently.

There is no "problem", you just don't understand what quickload does. As the name suggests, it loads the quicksave. To load a manually saved game, you have to go to the menu, and load that game. Just like in every other game. Simple. And, no loot is lost. By the way, there is really no reason to manually save at all. The Dark Mod has a system which saves 2 quicksaves, so, if you messed up and accidentally quicksaved the game, you still have the other (older) quicksave available. The only real reason I see for saving manually is before a (in your opinion) mission critical action, where you might want to see what the outcome of another action is.

yes indeed, i am in need off it apperently. Is there such a big difference between the quick and menu saves? Even if the quick is in fact a snapshot the variables have to be equal and i guess 99% is equal anyway, its a big bunch off data and variables and maybe a screenshot to start with??? I program some z80 myself, thats all small environment and i never could coop with any joystick, for me thats slower. well "save your last dance change for me" please.

Maybe what you're looking for is a new feature? Something like a hotkey that loads the most recent 'menu' save? This would be separate from the quick load/quick save functionality. Is that what you are thinking of?

repeating the problem aint a solution my question is can you MAKE the last save being loaded as default instead that childish "quick is quick" since they both saves must contain the same type off data ... and with "saving system" i mean the code as a system , like in the original meaning off system instead off OS i would rather say this tread should be in TDM Tech Support Troubles running TDM, Missions or DarkRadiant? Found a bug? Discussion about technical issues and possible bugs go here, please. and its realy annoying if you are in the MIDDLE OFF ACTION that you have to go to the save/load menu while having all your fingers touching any key needed ... o, get it now, you are a kid with a joystick!! thats why you dont bother if people say its stupid, well, give me a choise to be so? then YOU can have that annoying loot loss and i can set a default for "save that last and USE that last SAVE" its called SAVE ??? thinking Queen now

Hello yesterday i realised that the saving system as used now leads to loot losses i realized that when i found a small golden can for the 3rd time... I use Quick Save and Quick Load a lot, but if you save with a name you have to go to the save menu. reversed that is unfortunately equal. the saves with a name are NOT loaded with quick load... meaning that if i continue after a names save, fail a task, press quick load then my golden can WONT be loaded even while i EXPLICITLY saved that after the second find ...... could you PLEASE stop this annoying process of makeing double effort ?? its nice to have the Quick save, but it breaks the game for real that the quick load cannot load the LAST SAVE .... very annoying and very pitty and not needed at all. hope its very simple to implement. cheers.

I can confirm that the water is pitch black in "Noble Affairs". Also I suggest to remove "guard" from the tip on auto-search, because other NPCs carry items too, better make it like this: "Take all items from a body on first frob." Overall a nice release with several features that I can now remove from my patch, like directly extinguishing lights and mantling with bodies .

I would use this massive list for any fan missions, it includes campaigns too: https://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148090 There are a lot of Fan Missions for the picking, I myself go for the lesser known ones and the short variety, because sometimes they hide a gem or two. Just like jaxa, I'm a bit outdated after the temporal retirement, but I do remember some amazing campaigns like "The Black Frog". If you intend to play The Black Frog, you should play the first two of the L'Arsene series missions, it's how I did it myself. Also, yes, L'Arsene are a fantastic series. The first mission of L'Arsene is a "rough draft", author was a bit new to Thief level making, but still great either way, after the 3rd you will see how his skill increased by a massive amount.

I'm getting this on Windows. Not black, but opaque under water. It happened when I first updated to the beta. I was about to report it but tested again and it had gone away. I restarted TDM and now it's back.

Submerging in water is turning the screen pitch black and opaque for a lot of Linux users.

Unfortunately, TDM forum deletes the separator between the numbers. So I have to guess where one number ends and the next starts Also, user can rename screenshot manually, or push it through something that would rename it automatically. Thenwe won't see coordinates on screenshot address on forums.

tdm_show_viewpos cvar and screenshot_viewpos command: https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/22310-212-viewpos-on-player-hud-and-screenshots/

Relax @Näkki, it's great to hear you enjoyed the game. My personal expectations were just a bit different when I read the Steam page, although the various trailers should have been a warning that stealth maybe wasn't the biggest priority of the devs. From the Steam page: "Weird west legends meet eldritch horror in BLOOD WEST, an immersive stealth FPS." Also "Blood West is a stealth FPS inspired by the genre classics such as the Thief series (whose fans will be happy to hear the voice of Stephen Russell, the actor voicing the master-thief Garrett, returning here as the protagonist), S.T.A.L.K.E.R. games, or - from the contemporary catalog - Hunt: Showdown. The gameplay rewards the careful approach: scouting the area, stalking your enemies, and striking from the shadows. Can you figure out a way to clear a fort full of ghouls and monsters without raising an alarm?" From my personal experience I think the game is predominantly Hunt: Showdown, a bit of S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and a very small portion Thief. Stealth is very unforgiving and makes it almost impossible early game when there are various enemies around, but hey maybe I just suck at it. I don't see Deus Ex in it, unless the skill leveling is the Deus Ex part for you and then I have to disagree with you, as that seems like the trait system in Hunt: Showdown. Edit: What I also understood from the Steam forums is that the original VA was dropped close before the release of the full version and replaced by Russell with no real explanation from the devs why this was done.

The devs didn't title this thread, and @datiswous said they're attempting to mislead people by using Russell's name and a retro style to make it resemble Thief, which is cynical. I grew up on forums like I'm sure anyone who likes a game from '98 did. I actually left the Discord immediately after joining it because it was more off-topic doom-posting than anything relevant to the mod. I thought the forums might be better, but it's mostly just grown men yelling at clouds and telling strangers how mature they are, and a few brave souls actually developing anything. Depressing place, I'll just stick to enjoying new missions every 6 months without an account.

True, but, 1. this thread is called "Western stealth FPS with Stephen Russell", and, 2. nothing you said changes anything for me. The gameplay still doesn't look like something I'd enjoy. And, if you really think this forum is cynical, then you don't visit forums much. Actually, the majority of the users are are pretty mature, unlike in other forums.

Agree with you 100%. Maybe wait for a big sale. After not playing Thief for such a long time it never gave me the same goosebump feeling I got from playing The Black Parade. Blood West gets repetitive very fast and for me the difficulty is bit too much (but I also suck in soulslike games, so it might just be me).

What you can do is: Download Manjaro Linux XFCE edition. (XFCE edition has best performance) Put it on usb-stick (usb 3.0 minimum, otherwise too slow). You can use Rufus for this. Boot from it, using the Proprietary drivers option in boot menu. Inside Manjaro linux, go to your Windows drive to the folder with your tdm installation. Start thedarkmod.x64 (NOT TheDarkModx64.exe) I tested this and it loads pretty fast.

An FM, such as The Black Parade, can enable objective-complete notifications via scripting. It's objective-complete notification script is at: thief/FMs/TheBlackParade_1_0/sq_scripts/victory.nut