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So I just read in a post about the black parade over at ttlg that someone was using a custom script to create a little challenge. You can only save your game for every 200 loot you gather. As many missions struggle to give loot a valuable sense of existence because it is only used as a mission goal (while not being part of a campaign where it would carry over), I personally found this a really good and refreshing idea. So, would this be possible in the dark mod too, either as a customizable game option or as a custom script j in a fan mission ? What are your thoughts on this idea in general ?

============== -= IRIS =- ============== WELLINGTONCRAB TDM v 2.11 REQ Ver. 1.3 *For Maureen* -=- "Carry the light of the Builder, Brother. Unto its end." -Valediction of the Devoted "What year is this? Am I dreaming?" -Plea of the Thief Dear Iris, I am old and broken. When we were young it felt like the words came easily. Now I find the ink has long dried on the pen and I'm as wanting for words as coin in my purse. I can tell we are nearing the end of the tale; time enough for one more job before the curtain call... ============== -Installation- Requires minimum version of TDM 2.11 **Dev build dev17056-10800 (2.13) fixes several visual effects which have been broken in the mission since the release of 2.11. For that reason playing with that version or later is currently recommended** -Iris does not support mods or the Unofficial Patch- Download and place the following .pk4 into you FMs directory: Iris Download ============== *Thank you for playing. Iris is a large mission which can either take as quickly or as long as you are compelled to play. I hope someone out there enjoys it and this initial release is not completely busted - I tried the best I could!* *Iris both is and isn't what it seems. If commenting please use spoiler tags where appropriate. If you are not certain if it would be appropriate a good assumption would be to use a spoiler tag* *Support TDM by rating missions on Thief Guild: https://www.thiefguild.com/* ============== WITH LASTING GRATITUDE: OBSTORTTE - Whose gameplay scripts from his thread laid the foundation which made the mission seem like something I could even pull off at all. Also fantastic tutorial videos! DRAGOFER - Who built upon that foundation and made it shine even brighter! And whom also provided immeasurable quantities of help and encouragement the past couple years on the TDM discord. ORBWEAVER & GIGAGOOGA - For generously offering their ambient music up for use. EPIFIRE - Who lent me his fine trash and trash receptacle models. AMADEUS - Who was the first person who wasn't me to play the damn thing and provided his excellent editorial services to improving the readers experience playing TESTERS AND TROUBLESHOOTERS: AMADEUS * DATISWOUS * SPOOKS * ALUMINUMHASTE * JAXA * JACKFARMER * WESP5 * ATE0ATE * MADTAFFER * STGATILOV * DRAGOFER * KINGSAL * KLATREMUS - What can I possibly say? Playing this thing over and over again could not have been easy. Deepest thanks and all apologies. -=THANKS TO ALL ON THE TDM DISCORD AND FORUM=- ==SEE README.TXT FOR ADDITIONAL ATTRIBUTIONS & INFORMATION== HONORABLE MENTION: GOLDWELL - If I hadn't by chance stumbled into Northdale back in 2018/2019 I would probably still be trying to get this thing to work in TDS, which means it probably would not exist - though more details on that in readme. ============== Boring Technical Information: *Iris is a performance intensive mission and I recommend a GTX 1060 or equivalent. I find the performance similar to other demanding TDM missions on my machine, but mileage may vary and my apologies if this prevents anyone from enjoying the mission.* *Iris heavily modifies the behavior of AI in the game, how they relate/respond to each other and the player. So they may act even stranger than they do typically in TDM. Feedback on this is useful - as it can potentially be improved and expanded upon in future patches.* -=- This is my first release and it has been a long time coming! If I forgot anything please let me know! God Speed. 2.10 Features Used:

There is a post over on TTLG: https://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=153145 Just re-checked, it was also just "an idea" and the scripts he posted mainly resolve around the enemy movement speed. I was so hooked up on that idea that I didn't remember this in the first place, sorry!

Thanks everyone for your passionate feedback so far. The topic of save restrictions really brings out the “travelling circus” haha! Even with maybe a clown act or two! I appreciate all the perspectives! @kingsal Just to clarify, the idea was always meant as an optional feature. It was never something forced onto any player. The intent is not to punish or restrict, but to offer map authors and players another tool to curb quicksave and quickload habits if they choose to. So customization would be key part of this, whether you set the loot threshold, turn it off, or adjust it per mission. I completely hear those who feel any kind of restriction undermines player freedom in immersive games. That is why I believe this should be extra and opt-in only, not tied to standard difficulty or forced on anyone who does not want it. On the other hand, I think the proposal from @snatcher about rewarding restraint, such as stealth score bonuses for minimal saving and loading, is an alternative brilliant way to turn the concept into something encouraging rather than restrictive. That could motivate players to play differently without feeling confined. Anyways.. Let us keep the discussion creative and constructive. For next year’s circus, maybe we can add a small demo to show the crowd PS: Thanks a lot @datiswous for taking the time to search the forums again. I somehow wasn't aware that this topic came up already a few times, and the forum search itself often is not working so well. So thank you!

@datiswous No-kill objectives absolutely make sense in terms of the setting. No client wants a bloodbath on his hand, and bring much more heat on him than the actual heist. Loot objective are a base principle of the game, as you are a thief. What exactly do limited saves bring to the setting/gameplay, instead of being a restriction a player can pose on himself, in any game? And, again, it can already be done with manual saves. Asking for the game to pose the restriction is like asking to hold your hand. But, as you say, I'm pretty positive that it won't come anyway, as it makes no sense. A single mission for TDM has a save room, on the highest difficulty. Which is bad enough, when you're used to playing on the highest difficulty level, and don't want that kind of save system... The "solution" is to play on medium or easy, which obviously also changes all other objectives to a lower level (which is bad). I only can hope that this doesn't come into fashion, same with ghosting objectives, which only make sense in very rare cases as well (like in the "Casing the joint" mission in Thief II). Especially with the already much higher difficulty of TDM compared to the original Thief games (A.I. hears and sees MUCH better in TDM, and the blackjacking is quite a hit & miss), limited saves would be a huge PITA for me.

It's already possible, out of the box. You can even save whenever and wherever you want. How great is that? If the FM author, or the developers of the mod do it for you, then it's a game sided limitation/restriction, and takes away freedom to play how you want. Which IMO is an essential feature of immersive sims like The Dark Mod, and takes away from what the gameplay should be in such games. I really hope neither FM authors nor the developers decide to implement saving restrictions for higher difficulties, or even build it in the game. It's a horrible idea. Like forced ghosting in missions.

That is basically already in the game. If you watch your stealth score, the number of times you saved and loaded are already listed! Maybe some trophies could be added to make this more rewarding, like a Ghost trophy, or a No-Save trophy or similar?

For the people eager to play with the latest state of development, two things are provided: regular dev builds source code SVN repository Development builds are created once per a few weeks from the current trunk. They can be obtained via tdm_installer. Just run the installer, check "Get Custom Version" on the first page, then select proper version in "dev" folder on the second page. Name of any dev version looks like devXXXXX-YYYY, where XXXXX and YYYY are SVN revision numbers from which the build was created. The topmost version in the list is usually the most recent one. Note: unless otherwise specified, savegames are incompatible between any two versions of TDM! Programmers can obtain source code from SVN repository. Trunk can be checked out from here: https://svn.thedarkmod.com/publicsvn/darkmod_src/trunk/ SVN root is: https://svn.thedarkmod.com/publicsvn/darkmod_src Build instructions are provided inside repository. Note that while you can build executable from the SVN repository, TDM installation of compatible version is required to run it. Official TDM releases are compatible with source code archives provided on the website, and also with corresponding release tags in SVN. A dev build is compatible with SVN trunk of revision YYYY, where YYYY is the second number in its version (as described above). If you only want to experiment with the latest trunk, using the latest dev build gives you the maximum chance of success. P.S. Needless to say, all of this comes with no support. Although we would be glad if you catch and report bugs before the next beta phase starts

When will they finally update their forums to a mobile friendly version..

The save game discussion is like a traveling circus. It rolls through town every year with the same old clowns. @SeriousToniThe loot save idea is interesting. Do you know how it works in Black Parade? Maybe the script checks the players loot score every so often to see if it incremented by X amount and then award a save. Or in TDM you could append the frob actions to force a check on every loot pickup. It might be weird to just save every 200 loot like thebigh mentioned. Might be better to gift the player a save item, similar to the savior schnapps in Kingdom Come. Interesting idea, not impossible to implement but definitely a little involved.

But these are in-game restrictions, they are imposed on the player character, not the player. Why not force a specific low brightness with no way for the player to adjust it? Why not force the player to play at a low resolution? Why not force the player to not use a mouse? Do you see the difference?

It doesn't work like that. You're only really restricted when you are. I think it will never be forced onto us except by mission authors, but I think (if they do) it should be implemented by them in missions as an optional extra, so you can play the full game with or without except for that element. Some ideas for implementation by mission authors: Make it the 3th difficulty setting but the 2th and 3th difficulties are the same except for the save restriction. Add the option as a checkbox in the briefing. You are already restricted in other ways. For example a no-kill objective, or a loot objective, or even objectives themself. I would really like to see a mission with less restriction. Like a sandbox. But it's harder to do.

I always have a hard time understanding why someone would need such a synthetic/automatic save system, when we already have the option to save whenever and wherever we want. If you want to save for every 200 loot you pick up, you can already do so. There's a loot objective for every mission, so you can plan whenever you want to save. There is a mission with a save room on high difficulty in TDM, and I absolutely hate it. These kind of automatic save schemes shouldn't be forced on the player, he should be free to save whenever he wants to save, not when the FM author intended him to save. That's the opposite of freedom in a game, and, in my opinion, the opposite of how an immersive sim or however you want to call it, should operate.

I had an idea... but I don't have a plan. New Volumes of Virtual Rooms must be the result of a collaborative community effort. We have to figure out everything: rules, content, plot, presentation... and we have to figure it out together. I am not the director or supervisor of this project. I can act as a coordinator during the initial stages but consider me as simply another member. Anyone is free to volunteer for any role. VIRTUAL ROOMS VOL.2 (ALPHA) Whenever there is new content new alpha versions will be made available and the good news is that the first alpha is already here! Member @thebigh quickly figured it all out on his own and he already created the very first room for Vol.2: Thaumaturgy! Please note Vol.2 is not available in the in-game downloader. It will be uploaded to the official repository only when the project is complete. Manual install instructions: Download the alpha from here Create the folder "fms/vr_vol2" and place the pk4 there Launch the game and look for Virtual Rooms Vol.2 (alpha) Room names: DISCUSSION What do we want Virtual Rooms to be? I propose we start with a basic set of Questions & Answers and let it grow from there. Can you help improving these Q&A? What is a Virtual Room? [Provisional] A Virtual Room is the container of an idea or an experiment. Anything that doesn't fit in a more serious project can have its home in the form of a Virtual Room. A Virtual Room can be large or small, simple or elaborated, short or long. Are there any rules? [Provisional] Yes, we want to have a cohering experience and for that we need a consistent set of main objectives. To keep things simple yet interesting the current main rules are: While having AI is not required being seen by AI is an instant failure There must be at least one optional piece of loot in the map The player must reach an exit point to complete the room Each room (map) can have its own set of scripts, textures, materials, sounds... As long as the main rules are respected, you are free to do what you please. Can I have extra objectives in my room? [Provisional] Yes but think how you will let players know about them. Do I have to adhere to a particular aesthetics? [Provisional] No, you do what you want. You can opt for a blocky design or you can go with your own style. How do I submit a room? [Provisional] Upload it somewhere and announce it publicly. Somebody will eventually include it in the next Alpha. Can I revisit the room I submitted? [Provisional] Yes, of course. As many times as you want or need. It is your room after all. In what order are rooms arranged? [Provisional] "First come, first served". When we have a good number of rooms we can see if authors agree to different arrangements for a linear or cohesive experience, if such thing is even possible considering the different sources. Will I be credited for my room? [Provisional] Yes by default but you can opt out. Authors will be listed in the release page, in a readme, and we can probably add something in the briefing or debriefing. Is there a tutorial on "how to create a room"? Yes, one is in the works but it is not yet ready / available. Discuss!

This may have been posted before now, but if you haven't already, its worth voting why you think TDM should be on GoG - - https://www.gog.com/dreamlist/game/the-dark-mod-2013

I know there's a lot of doom and gloom with missions being released but look at it like this; every year there's enough content to equal a full campaigns worth of missions. It's like a full thief game every year. And the quality just keeps getting better, as mappers get more and more experience.

Installed this mission and now my game will not start at all, I get a blue screen page with all this in it... TDM 2.12/64 #10651 (1435:10651) win-x86_64 Feb 24 2024 17:13:42 3311 MHz Intel CPU with SSE & SSE2 & SSE3 & SSSE3 & SSE41 & AVX Winsock Initialized Found interface: {7E4AFCE4-2858-4AA4-9EC9-B91694C33FCD} Intel(R) 82579LM Gigabit Network Connection #2 - 0.0.0.0 NULL netmask - skipped Found interface: {2340C0DC-39A7-4482-8282-B77A8FDCFC8A} Realtek RTL8168C(P)/8111C(P) Family PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.20) - 192.168.1.168/255.255.255.0 Found interface: {DEAB3071-3FD2-4C63-B353-E5E60D5C3C17} Bluetooth Device (Personal Area Network) #5 - 0.0.0.0 NULL netmask - skipped Sys_InitNetworking: adding loopback interface Found Intel CPU, features: SSE SSE2 SSE3 SSSE3 SSE41 AVX TDM using AVX for SIMD processing. 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I18N: Found no character remapping for english. I18N: 1334 strings read from strings/english.lang I18N: 'strings/fm/english.lang' not found. execing default.cfg Gamepad modifier button assigned to 6 execing Darkmod.cfg execing DarkmodKeybinds.cfg execing DarkmodPadbinds.cfg Gamepad modifier button assigned to 6 Couldn't exec mission.cfg - file does not exist. Couldn't exec autoexec.cfg - file does not exist. I18N: SetLanguage: 'english'. I18N: Found no character remapping for english. I18N: 1334 strings read from strings/english.lang I18N: 'strings/fm/english.lang' not found. ----- Initializing OpenAL ----- Setup OpenAL device and context OpenAL: found device 'OpenAL Soft on TOSHIBA-TV (NVIDIA High Definition Audio)' [ACTIVE] OpenAL: found device 'OpenAL Soft on Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)' OpenAL: found device 'OpenAL Soft on Realtek Digital Output(Optical) (Realtek High Definition Audio)' OpenAL: found device 'OpenAL Soft on Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition Audio)' OpenAL: device 'OpenAL Soft on TOSHIBA-TV (NVIDIA High Definition Audio)' opened successfully OpenAL: HRTF is available OpenAL vendor: OpenAL Community OpenAL renderer: OpenAL Soft OpenAL version: 1.1 ALSOFT 1.21.1 OpenAL: found EFX extension OpenAL: HRTF is disabled (reason: 0 = ALC_HRTF_DISABLED_SOFT) OpenAL: found 256 hardware voices ----- Initializing OpenGL ----- Initializing OpenGL subsystem ...getting default gamma ramp: success ...registered window class ...registered fake window class ...calling CDS: ok ...created window @ 0,0 (1600x900) Initializing OpenGL driver ...getting DC: succeeded ...PIXELFORMAT 12 selected ...creating GL context: core-fc ...making context current: succeeded ...initializing QGL ------- Input Initialization ------- Initializing DirectInput... mouse: DirectInput initialized. keyboard: DirectInput initialized. ------------------------------------ OpenGL vendor: NVIDIA Corporation OpenGL renderer: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970/PCIe/SSE2 OpenGL version: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 560.94 core Checking required OpenGL features... v - using GL_VERSION_3_3 v - using GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc v - using WGL_VERSION_1_0 v - using WGL_ARB_pixel_format Checking optional OpenGL extensions... v - using GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic maxTextureAnisotropy: 16.000000 v - using GL_ARB_stencil_texturing v - using GL_EXT_depth_bounds_test v - using GL_ARB_buffer_storage v - using GL_ARB_texture_storage v - using GL_ARB_multi_draw_indirect v - using GL_ARB_vertex_attrib_binding X - GL_ARB_compatibility not found v - using GL_KHR_debug v - using WGL_EXT_swap_control Max active texture units in fragment shader: 32 Max combined texture units: 192 Max anti-aliasing samples: 32 Max geometry output vertices: 1024 Max geometry output components: 1024 Max vertex attribs: 16 ---------- R_ReloadGLSLPrograms_f ----------- Linking GLSL program cubeMap ... Linking GLSL program bumpyEnvironment ... Linking GLSL program environment ... Linking GLSL program fog ... Linking GLSL program oldStage ... Linking GLSL program blend ... Linking GLSL program soft_particle ... Linking GLSL program gaussian_blur ... Linking GLSL program testImageCube ... --------------------------------- Font fonts/english/stone in size 12 not found, using size 24 instead. --------- Initializing Game ---------- The Dark Mod 2.12/64, win-x86_64, code revision 10651 Build date: Feb 24 2024 Initializing event system ...890 event definitions Initializing class hierarchy ...173 classes, 897120 bytes for event callbacks Initializing scripts --------- Game Map Shutdown ---------- --------- Game Map Shutdown done ----- ERROR:Error: file script/virtual_rooms.script, line 42: Unknown value "getPersistentFloat" -------------------------------------- Error during initialization. Error: file script/virtual_rooms.script, line 42: Unknown value "getPersistentFloat" Shutting down OpenGL subsystem ...wglMakeCurrent( NULL, NULL success ...deleting GL context: success ...releasing DC: success ...destroying window ...resetting display ...restoring hardware gamma: success ...shutting down QGL Which to me is all rather meaningless.

I just finished The Black Parade (it was really nice), and, now I kind of tasted blood. You guys know some top notch fan missions for either game, which I should play? They should be of similar quality as the missions in The Black Parade. I frankly have no idea about the mission makers in Thief and Thief 2, so, I have to ask. I know that Melan did some missions for TG and TMA, but, frankly, I liked his TDM missions better. With the other mission authors, I have no idea.

https://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=153139

Virtual Rooms Vol.1 You are trapped in a virtual simulation of interconnected rooms, each holding its own challenge. Do you dare attempt the escape? Volume 1 marks the beginning of a journey. Future volumes of Virtual Rooms will be driven by the community: rooms will be created by different authors. We will set common rules as we go. Stay tuned for the upcoming kickoff of Volume 2! In the meantime, let know your thoughts about Volume 1 and "Virtual Rooms" as a concept. Feel free to criticize and/or suggest areas of improvement. Share your ideas. This initiative now belongs to all of you, members of this community and fans of The Dark Mod out there. EDIT - You can now discuss it here: [Alpha] Virtual Rooms Vol.2 Have fun Install instructions: Virtual Rooms Vol.1 is available in the in-game mission downloader. Alternatively, go to the "fms" folder, create the folder "vr_vol1" and place inside the pk4 file that you can download here. Room names, as reference: Known bugs: Cheers!

Greetings everyone! I recently got into TDM and am already having a lot of fun playing through and ghosting missions. However, coming from Thief, I am mostly relying on the rules and my experience with that game, while there are clearly differences in how TDM works. Right now, there is talk in the ghosting discussion thread on TTLG to amend the ruleset and include clarifications pertaining to TDM. So I wanted to drop by and ask: is there an active TDM ghosting community already and have any rules for this playstyle been developed? I would also like to ask someone to take a look at the draft of this addendum to see whether everything looks correct: https://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148487&page=16&p=2473352&viewfull=1#post2473352 Thanks!

There's now an editable fan mission list on the wiki, for the sake of tracking missions made for The Dark Mod. Please read and follow the guidelines, and help keep the list up to date! Direct link, but also accessible from the wiki title page: http://wiki.thedarkmod.com/index.php?title=Fan_Missions_for_The_Dark_Mod Discussion of changes (format, policies, entries, etc.) can take place in this thread. --------------------------------------- There is also now a wiki page to track upcoming fan missions: http://wiki.thedarkmod.com/index.php?title=Upcoming_Fan_Missions Submissions, progress, and any discussion for missions under construction can take place here: http://forums.thedarkmod.com/topic/11639-upcoming-fan-missions/

for its age i will agree its not a bad card by a long shot i can sure live with it as it is now but at some point ill probably get a 9070 xt to replace it. not that im going to ditch it, it would still work great in my other machine which has one of the "yuck" 8gb rtx 3070 cards . not that its a bad card but anything above 1440 res and the 2080 ti overtakes it. in more modern titles like indiana jones and the great circle it gets splattered completely because the game uses a ton of texture memory. i can play it with the 3070 but i have to lower texture res to the lowest setting or the game will crash it uses that much vram and the 2080 ti still wins. i use an ultrawide asus 144hz monitor on that one so its a mix between 4k and 1440. biggest problem is that the 2080 ti can only do 60hz on the hdmi port on 4k but the monitor does have displayports which supports a higher framerate than the hdmi port does (why on earth they decided to use the old hdmi standard on the 2080 ti baffles me to no end). the 9070 xt will probably be the last upgrade in this life, im getting to old for the space race and finances are limited.

Seems quite interesting, maybe a bit rough around the edges. Available on Steam.

There wasn't much debate. Just look at the site I cited! It started as a great repository where cool Half-Life and Half-Life 2 maps were shared. Now the only thing left are these Map Lab collections featuring mini-maps according to a theme. The real maps have just died out over the years, because making mini-maps is much easier. Many of them look similar to your work in that the mappers doesn't even care to texture them anymore but are using default tool textures. This is why I was immediately reminded of this! Make no mistake, I love your modding work adding new features to the game itself, but as I.C.H.I. wrote, the unique charakter of TDM is lost in the virtual rooms idea and we have so little new missions already...