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  1. Did a great find today: Quake 4 mods for dummies. Now online readable. http://forums.thedarkmod.com/topic/5576-book-quake-4-mods-for-dummies/?p=412644

    1. Obsttorte
    2. Bikerdude

      Bikerdude

      He changed ita long while back, it was so he was using the same name as he uses on other forums.

  2. Was looking around at some Unity/Unreal tutorials, and I found these: https://megascans.se/ http://devassets.com/ Dev Assets is totally free to use, doesn't matter what you're doing, but I don't know if there's anything there that's TDM suitable. Megascans has a limited but nice-looking selection under "free", but their licensing might not allow for free use?
  3. That moment you log into TDM forums and suddenly feel nostalgic...

    1. Sotha

      Sotha

      Protip: if you never log off and stay for ever, there is no nostalgia when you visit.

    2. Melan

      Melan

      Welcome back!

    3. RPGista

      RPGista

      Haha yeah, I feel like that from time to time. Good to see you around.

  4. Bikerdude Nope, as the engine would then have no way of opening them. That and all resources used by the mode are covered by CC, which is the equivalent to opensource. 04 Jun nbohr1more Interesting question though. We integrated different zip libraries in the internal builds so there might be some sorta support for reading encrypted files but there's no API interface for passing the credentials. If encrypting will bring in more content creators (etc) I'm not implicitly apposed to it but it's on pretty shaky ground... Sotha's Photo 05 Jun Sotha "I am not selling TDM FMs. I am distributing the .pk4s freely, but you gotta pay for the decryption key!" 05 Jun freyk There is always a way. But why? Everyone should play fms and not selected few. Epifire's Photo 05 Jun Epifire Well the engine would have the required libraries to run the pk4s without a hitch. The encryption would prevent direct access and tampering of data within the directory itself. 05 Jun freyk Give us the freedom of modding, patching, improving your and our fms/stuff. an encrypted fm-pk4 crashed my tdm instantly, as predicted 05 Jun Judith It's not necessarily about selling FMs. If someone's making a lot of custom stuff, and just wants people to play the mission, without tampering with their stuff, there's no such option so far. 05 Jun nbohr1more Another justification. "I want to sell my new model on an asset market like Unity Store but I also want to show if off in a TDM mission I am building. I don't want people to unpack my mission and grab my model for free." If we allow mappers to encrypt, it may encourage pros to release more high-quality content knowing it can act as a platform to advertise their works. 05 Jun kano Encryption is one of, if not the worst things to happen to single player gaming. Games with encrypted assets prevent the player from learning, experimenting, improving, or otherwise getting more use out of the game than the time that it takes to complete said game. Locked down games that can't be modified or extended are why I won't spend more than 10 bucks on mainstream games anymore. And encrypting game assets is kind of pointless, because at some point they must be decrypted to be displayed. And with determined users, there are programs to "rip" them from the video memory, like 3DRipperDX. 05 Jun MoroseTroll Epifire: What about checking the hash of your own PK4(s)? This could provide some integrity for you data, if I get you right. Also, you could provide your own PK4(s) with intentially broken headers, and fix them on the run. 06 Jun Judith Kano, that's the problem: when you're an author, you don't want your stuff to be modified without your knowledge, and IMO Thief community is notorious for grabbing everything that's downloadable and doing whatever can be done with it (see Object repository thread on TTLG), so at least some control over your assets would be appreciated. Fortunately 3d ripper dx worked with DX9 games only. 06 Jun Epifire Well it certainly is a worth notion for content protection. Interesting discussion nonetheless. 06 Jun Obsttorte Well, the licence TDM is under already states that everyone can do anything with it. I think the assets fall under same licence, not sure. However, if you are releasing something for free anyways, why do you care what others do with it? 06 Jun Judith I'm not saying what we do is art, but compare it to exhibiting a painting and letting everyone paint over it and display it in other galleries as well. Some authors may not like it. Other more complicated cases include e.g. using paid textures as base (you can't distribute your work as an image, even if such paid texture is used as a layer in Gimp / just a component of your texture). 06 Jun Obsttorte I don't hink the comparision with the painting suits here. As said, the whole point of modding is 'modifying' things. In addition, you normally don't destroy the original source, but work with a copy. Regarding your second point, we avoid using assets that are protected. This includeds everything you have to pay for. 06 Jun Judith Does modding means zero control over the stuff you made? I don't think so. Maybe such disagreements over what modding is why engines like Unreal introduced packages. That discussion deserves its own thread, IMO. 06 Jun AluminumHaste This mod is open source, Creative Commons. Anything created for it is no longer yours, it is then in public domain for ANYONE to use as they see fit. You have to understand this BEFORE you make and release something for the MOD. If you cannot live with this then don't create anything. If you make a clock tower I can then use it to make clock tower chess boards, and you don't like it, then it's too bad. Anderson's Photo 06 Jun Anderson I don't see how CC is a problem for the author later reusing this in any professional field. It's not like anyone will plow TDM to find material to sue anyone. Take it easy. Any open source project is non profit and therefore profit is the last thing to think of unless getting experience or something to write in a CV about. That's it. Judith's Photo 06 Jun Judith In Unreal engines you can use all the assets the way you want, but you can't export models or textures outside the editor to modify them. That's the kind of author's control I'm talking about, and I believe that might have been the reason for Epi's question. Anderson's Photo 06 Jun Anderson Understood. Well, Unreal is a specific thing. Most people here have jobs and for them TDM is quite a hobby. So if you want to you can find a way to do something similar if you can argument your position to implement this (for Epifire). Judith's Photo 06 Jun Judith It's not about money, more like sense of authorship. I don't want people to edit my photos or publish them without captions/proper credit) either, this is absolutely normal. Anderson's Photo 06 Jun Anderson Well, if they are contributed to a project, it is reasonable enough to expect them to be adjusted/modified/improved? After all it is in common interest, especially if the author no longer shows up and goes AWOL. For example the account is terminated/forgot password/the author dies. Photos are also a personal thing, while various art assets, sfx, voiceovers are sort of a contribution. If it's made for the project, their existence is tied to the project. It's for the public i... Judith's Photo 06 Jun Judith That's a fair point. Although locking assets this way isn't bad either. You can improve things ad infinitum, and this way you have to take responsibility and submit something finished, not counting on others to do additional work. Anderson's Photo 06 Jun Anderson True as well. But realistically it's better to have the chance of someone picking up something old and abandoned. AluminumHaste's Photo 06 Jun AluminumHaste Okay, wasn't trying to hurt anyone's feeling, just pointing out the reality of this project in particular and how it works. Regardless of how other projects work, whether it's other indie projects or UT/Epic etc, The Dark Mod (which includes everything that comes with the mod, and anything added later) is under CC. Maintaining control over something you've given to TDM is not how it works. Not sure what Epifire is needing in particular as he... AluminumHaste's Photo 06 Jun AluminumHaste okay lol, this needs a thread, can't fit replies in. Bikerdude's Photo 06 Jun Bikerdude <Sigh> Anderson's Photo 07 Jun Anderson <Sigh intensifies> Judith's Photo 07 Jun Judith ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ jaredmitchell's Photo 07 Jun jaredmitchell Not to re-stir the hornet's nest here, but as far as I know the license from the source code in idTech specifies that only code, not assets, are required to be released. Does the license under The Dark Mod go further? stumpy's Photo 07 Jun stumpy I've had loads of things nicked and no credit for being the originator, it something you have to live with and lump it. Judith's Photo 07 Jun Judith Most of my stuff is properly unwrapped anyway, so you can't do much with these textures unless you really know what you're doing. That should discourage most people. I'm more afraid about models being used outside the mod. nbohr1more's Photo 07 Jun nbohr1more Our asset license is BY-NC-SA. This is mainly because we use assets that are "free" but are contractually bound for non-commercial distribution. (1) nbohr1more's Photo 07 Jun nbohr1more I don't see a problem with FM authors including their own non-free assets in missions. The questionable area is "selling an FM". It technically doesn't break the rules but it definitely could cause some sorta legal concern because the asset owners could conflate the FM authors with the TDM team. nbohr1more's Photo 07 Jun nbohr1more (Asset owners for 3rd party assets we include in TDM) Judith's Photo 08 Jun Judith Is it possible to add your own clauses to that, like "you may not use these assets outside TDM without author's permission / please contact me"? nbohr1more's Photo 08 Jun nbohr1more Yes, you can add any license stipulations you want to your readme just as with the original Doom 3 SDK. Springheel's Photo 08 Jun Springheel Holy crap, 39 comments? That's got to be a record. Nobody wants to make this a thread? freyk done.
  5. I thought it'd be cool if we had some really cool pieces of loot, so I found some historic inspiration. Templar Crosses. Assorted GothicJewellery
    1. demagogue
    2. jaxa

      jaxa

      I've found it difficult to find where TDM is listed as #1 on Greenlight. This page ( https://steamcommunity.com/greenlight/ ) has no ranked listing. This one ( https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=858048394 ) has no visible rank or stats page. Is it my script blocker?

  6. Hey, Every time I've try to use the Full Editor when PM'ing someone, and every single time I get an error. Whoever is in charge of the forum, is it possible that this could be fixed? Thanks Neon
  7. Been crazy now. I'm doing some assets for UE4 Market Place as well as the Lord Edgar FM. Busy and exciting times!

    1. nbohr1more

      nbohr1more

      Good to hear that you get to do what you love for some earnings too. :)

    2. Anderson

      Anderson

      Most important to do what you like and make a buck somehow honestly.

  8. edit: I've created a video series to showcase the new modules and give examples of how to use them: http://forums.thedarkmod.com/topic/18683-using-springheels-205-modules/ Hope you enjoy them! There might be a bit of a learning curve, but before you know it you'll be creating scenes like these:
  9. Sign out of TDM forums, close browser, re-open later, "Huh...I'm still signed in?"

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    2. Bikerdude

      Bikerdude

      Its a cookie thats keeping you logged in.

    3. Sotha

      Sotha

      Another visitor! Stay a while; stay forever!

    4. Tarhiel

      Tarhiel

      We´re like a Shalebridge Cradle: what comes in must never leave :)

  10. The Black Parade is coming! http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146501 Woo-hoo!

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    2. demagogue

      demagogue

      I suppose making a campaign as an individual and building for Thief Gold go hand & hand. You need to be pretty obsessed to do either. XD

    3. Epifire

      Epifire

      I'm just very happy to see how much work still goes on with the original Thief games. Good mods = long life after release!

    4. lowenz
    1. SeriousToni

      SeriousToni

      What? The mysterious saviour is back to make our Thief lives happier again after such a long absence? I can't believe it's true! Wow thanks so much!

    2. demagogue

      demagogue

      He's like our own Game of Thones mystery crow that leads us to secret treasures.

    3. SeriousToni

      SeriousToni

      Or to an old tree with lots of zombies around.. xD

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