TDM Pre-Release Testers Wanted

[lowenz]

Tested Somewhere Above the City: it's ok!

Edited December 19, 2010 by lowenz

[lost_soul]

Tested NHAT 1 and 2 and they are fine, but we've got some breakage on NHAT3. Much of the terrain is missing, leading to a wide open area with inexplicable light sources on your way to the mansion near the left side.

[STiFU]

That's probably related to the new ambient method and the custom outdated material definitions included in the FM package. I'll look into it, thanks!

[lowenz]

Tested Sons of Baltona: it's OK.

 

Little penetration problem here too, walking on the table:

 

 

[lost_soul]

Completed Living Expenses. Only problem was a few "aas32 is not valid" messages and a guard who kept walking in circles... but I swear I dmapped this back in 1.02!

[grayman]

Completed Living Expenses. Only problem was a few "aas32 is not valid" messages and a guard who kept walking in circles... but I swear I dmapped this back in 1.02!

 

What was around the circling guard? Walls, solid closed door, solid open door, see-through door (like a jail cell door), tables?

[grayman]

Tested Sons of Baltona: it's OK.

 

Little penetration problem here too, walking on the table:

 

 

 

When you were walking on the table, did you touch that plate? Sometimes items will drop into or fall through what they're sitting on if you touch them a certain way.

 

I checked the map in DR and the plates are properly placed. Ran through the mission w/1.03 and all the plates looked okay.

[grayman]

Tested Awaiting the Storm: it's all right, but there's a volume penetration problem (I don't know if it's mission-related or 1.03-related):

 

What is that that's sunk into the bed?

[lost_soul]

What was around the circling guard? Walls, solid closed door, solid open door, see-through door (like a jail cell door), tables?

 

It was the second door just past the fountain on the ground. The guard would walk through the door, close it, open it, and go back again. There were no bodies or dropped weapons on the ground. I hadn't attacked anyone.

 

Will we end up having to DMAP missions again when new versions come out?

Edited December 19, 2010 by lost_soul

[lowenz]

When you were walking on the table, did you touch that plate?

Yep!

So it's normal, perfect.

 

Tested Pandora, Parcel and Patently Dangerous!

 

All worked like a charm; some - again - penetration problems in Patently Dangerous:

 

 

 

 

 

As for Storm, the problem appears when I take and re-drop the NPC/object.

Edited December 19, 2010 by lowenz

[STiFU]

lowenz, either you're a really good tester or you have too much time. Either way, thank you for helping out!

 

@lost_soul: I forgot that I don't have the most recent release client, so I am updating right now, which will take some time due to server traffic (I assume). So could you check whether the terrain in NHAT 3 appears again when you switch to different ambient rendering modes? I checked the material definitions of the terrain and there is no ambient stage. But I know that JC Denton implemented something different for materials that use vertexblending, so this might be handled internally... I am not sure.

[lost_soul]

I loaded up NHAT3 again with the different shader settings (standard, simple, enhanced) and there was still a large open space with no decorations on the left. You can see the visportals opening and closing in the distance, as portions of the map appear out in the clearing.

[Bikerdude]

doing an update just now and the gui update found a 2.6mb file then asked to restart, then it popped with the usual DOS update window and is now downloading 1.58Gb worth..

 

I assume this isnt right..

Edited December 19, 2010 by Bikerdude

[Springheel]

Sounds like you didn't add "keep-mirrors"?

 

If you run the updater from windows, you have to check the box every time.

 

The same thing happened to me. You'll need to redownload the mirrors.txt file.

[STiFU]

I loaded up NHAT3 again with the different shader settings (standard, simple, enhanced) and there was still a large open space with no decorations on the left. You can see the visportals opening and closing in the distance, as portions of the map appear out in the clearing.

Alright thanks, I won't get around to do any work on this today, as the updater is really taking a long time. So if someone else wants to step up, feel free.

[Bikerdude]

The same thing happened to me. You'll need to redownload the mirrors.txt file.

 

Doh!

[lost_soul]

Completed Knighton Manor without issues.

[Serpentine]

All worked like a charm; some - again - penetration problems in Patently Dangerous:

 

Did you slide him under the bed first? That bed doesnt have a 'bottom', like an upside down cup (acceptable I think), but if you pushed him from the top and he falls in.... hmmm!

[Fidcal]

You might like to check those penetration problems in your previous update. If the same happens then it's a map or on-going TDM flaw rather than an update error.

 

Hard to understand why portals would close at different distances now. These portals are triggered by distance. I saw this in a test map yesterday but I never saw this test map before so I assumed it was like that originally - hey it's just a test map. I've got some of these in the city section of my own FM I'm working on so I'll try and have a look if they are behaving differently now.

[lowenz]

Did you slide him under the bed first? That bed doesnt have a 'bottom', like an upside down cup (acceptable I think), but if you pushed him from the top and he falls in.... hmmm!

From the top!

[Bikerdude]

As these are my maps it makes more sense that I test them, and I will test them on all difficulties.

Business.

St. Albans Cathedral

The Caduceus of St. Albans

 

All ok, bar 2 things -

 

The water in all the maps is running to fast, as in the amplitude or frequency is higher of the wave in-game.

In Caduceus one of the builders was halfway through the bed, but this might be a map thing. But its the same as someone else reported.

[Serpentine]

The water in all the maps is running to fast, as in the amplitude or frequency is higher of the wave in-game.

 

Any idea which water material it is? just the name will do. Also is it like super fast or just 30% too fast? (for example)

[Aprilsister]

Known Issues with TDM 1.03

• The water materials might look odd/fast/wrong. This will be looked into in TDM 1.04.
• Some clothes models have problematic shaders, causing them to show up as black.

 

From Greebo's instructions in this thread.

[Bikerdude]

just got a nodraw brush with a water texture on the top side

 

material - materials/tdm_water.mtr

shader - textures/water_source/water_green

 

cant tell what speed..

[Serpentine]

Ok good good, I'll check it out in a few minutes.

 

Then we can strike both of those known issues off (hopefully!)