Fan mission: House of Theo

[TheUnbeholden]

That sunset is like watching myself in the mirror, how could one not look and be hypnotized. Ahhhhh Oh yes thieving I was just getting to that. The castle looks like a castle which is a big plus in my book

Its weird that there wasn't a throne room or big banquet hall. Ah I must be stuck on other castley FM's.

 

+BEE-A-UTIFULL

+Enchanting ambience, although a tad to loud for me as a ussually play with loud sound to simulate my superior hearing

+Fairly long

+Story is straight forward, clear goal, with a little moral tinge to extra readables you find.

+A bit extra loot for those who like to scour the place

 

-Backdoor key... didn't need it.

-No murder allowed

[Bridge]

EDIT: never mind

Edited November 3, 2013 by Bridge

[Jon Irenicus]

Just finished this mission on difficult.

 

Things I liked:

+Gorgeous view of the castle from outside.

+Awesome and unusual setting.

+It felt like I was playing Thief: The Dark Project.

+ Excellent use of light and shadow.

+Readables are nice.

+Ambient music is good.

+Nice interiors.

+The use of rope arrow.

+Very few water arrows make things more challenging!

+Good amount of guards and non hostile NPCs.

+Quantity of loot necessary to complete the objective on Expert is good.

 

Things I disliked:

-I started without a sword, and even though there was some lying around, I couldn't pick them.

-The default ambient music volume is too high.

 

Some bugs:

-I found two barrels with some objects above them, and when I picked that objects and drop them on the top of the barrel, they passed through it.

-http://img689.images...9/9817/qbr4.jpg :This guard entered in a loop trying to climb the stairs, getting back, and doing it over and over.

 

 

Conclusion:

This mission was very fun to play.

Nice job Theothesnopp and thank you!

Edited December 11, 2013 by Jon Irenicus

[Thiefette]

Just replaying some of the older missions and noticed

the key is still unfrobable in the drawer. I tried noclip, leaning, every which way and couldn't pick it up. It wasn't a problem for me as there's the other way in & out of the room so this is just an observation.

 

[Tr00pertj]

Congrats on your release thehtesnoop.

 

Will play it in the near future hope fully, Time permitting.

 

Hay. I thought I had played this before some time in 2011 perhaps.

Edited April 14, 2015 by Tr00pertj

[DeusXIncognita]

Just replaying some of the older missions and noticed

the key is still unfrobable in the drawer. I tried noclip, leaning, every which way and couldn't pick it up. It wasn't a problem for me as there's the other way in & out of the room so this is just an observation.

 

I had that too, when I played it not that long ago.

 

 

I just used noclip everytime to circumvent the door it should unlock, but that needed knowledge which door that key unlocks (read it here)

 

 

[Thiefette]

Congrats on your release thehtesnoop.

 

Will play it in the near future hope fully, Time permitting.

 

Hay. I thought I had played this before some time in 2011 perhaps.

Yes, not a new mission. Just replaying some of the older ones - just because

[Atomic]

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Edited April 28, 2015 by Atomic

[Ceaton]

cant find who is

leaking the information

 

[Thiefette]

 

cant find who is

leaking the information

 

 

 

Are you looking for the answer? See post #23 in this thread for help. Sorry, I don't know how to link them.

[thebigh]

This is a really pretty level. The first time I tried to play it I got turned off by the deafening ambient and gave up, but I'm glad I gave it another shot. Because it gave me some really strong Thief 2 vibes, which I always like.

Figuring out the objectives was tricky but not unfair.

Many of the puzzles involving guards were just pure, old-school sneaking so that's another big thumbs up!

Spoiler

LOL

 

[Acolytesix]

So did that key in the drawer ever get fixed?  

[datiswous]

On 7/2/2022 at 2:09 AM, Acolytesix said:

So did that key in the drawer ever get fixed?

Nope. It's a typical bug in more missions I think. You can close the drawer and open it again and then you can frob it.

Anyway, I found it a mission in need for a graphical update. Poor textures (also almost no variation), noshadows almost everywhere, light leaking through walls in lots of places and it is utterly empty. There's also this door that you can walk through.

The castle surroundings are pretty though.

Edited December 2, 2022 by datiswous
typo

[Shadow]

Yep the mission is pretty old and has some glitchy flaws, not much of a storyline, and empty furniture-less rooms, so it's not going to have depth and look and feel like recent ones, but the vertical-ness and snowy scenery is what makes it great. You rope up the castle to top balconies and you get a great view on a majestic scale. That's what makes it a memorable mission for me.

 

[nbohr1more]

Making a note:

During the 2.04 development cycle:

Source Revision 6550 Assets 14407  the door on the balcony became nonsolid for the player

It was still working on Assets 14406 and Source 6544.

6544 was introduced at 14404 and no other binaries were added between.

14407 only added binaries ( compared to 14406 ) so this was not an asset \ def issue.

Edit:

During the 2.04 dev era ( 2015 to 2016 ) we still compiled game dll's. The breaking change happened in Rev 6551 ( the tdm console only renders to binary revision )

Changes:

https://github.com/stgatilov/darkmod_src/commit/3f6f6f62bbba029bbcfec271ef08cac68fbfc2e4

@stgatilov I don't see any problem areas in this commit. Can you confirm?

[thebigh]

I noticed that ghostly door too last time I played. Theo's not around these days but I very much doubt if he'd mind if you just plopped some clip over it.

[nbohr1more]

At first I thought it was some wild precision bug but it looks like the skin might be nonsolid somehow and SteveL's change made the nonsolid attribute work? Either that or skin detection is somehow borked in this map.

Feel free to edit the map, I'm no expert mapper but I might be able to perform some workaround by manipulating the entity.

Edit:

I fixed it with the following change:

// entity 4
{
"classname" "atdm:mover_door"
"name" "atdm_mover_door_8"
"lock_picktype" "-"
"lock_pins" "0"
"locked" "1"
"solid" "1"
"model" "atdm_mover_door_8"
"origin" "710 -248 2050"
"rotate" "0 90 0"
"snd_close" "door_shut_06"
"snd_open" "door_open_08"
"used_by" "Balcony_door_keey"
// "skin" "door_007_1"
// primitive 0

Will upload the fix to the mission database.

I don't see anything wrong with the door_007_1 skin but I would advise testing it in-game before using it going forward until this is fully sorted.

Edit 2:

The updated mission is now available in the mission database.

Feel free to offer other fixes to this mission as long as they do not:

Change visuals

Change gameplay design

( Any purely bugged things that the mission author acknowledges "needs fixing" such as keys that are inaccessible or critical items that fall through surfaces when touched, etc can be fixed by any mapper and submitted for validation by the team. )

[stgatilov]

It seems that you redmapped the mission.
It means some visportals could be broken... and consequently some locations could be broken...

Was it required?
Did you change any brushes or patches?
 

[nbohr1more]

I wanted to ensure that collision on the door was forced to generate during Dmap. I can try reverting the compile artifacts and see if the fix still works.

[nbohr1more]

1 hour ago, nbohr1more said:

I wanted to ensure that collision on the door was forced to generate during Dmap. I can try reverting the compile artifacts and see if the fix still works.

Edit:

The fix works without the dmap. Reverted the dmap in the mission database.

[Rio_Walker]

Enjoyed it.
Got lost a few times, but only because I couldn't remember where the last locked door was. (even though it's the only door that has a consistent guard next to it)

The only real complaint - the music is way too loud. It's fitting, but too loud.
I couldn't hear my own footsteps!
Also, I have no idea how I'm supposed to yoink that other key (not that I needed it) off the guard sitting outside. He doesn't move at all, and he's got that brown eye pointed directly at me.

Also, from lore perspective, how the hell did we climbed up the cliffs? No rope, no nothing. Maybe add some sort of grappling hook laying on the snow?