Arcturus textures

[SneaksieDave]

We should not get rid of the old version, just add the new, please. Reason being, the old version is better for things like a pile of rubble or a lumpy, hilly ground, so it serves a different purpose (I've in fact used it for exactly that). The new version is much more regular and structured, as for an almost paved area.

 

Edit: oops, take that back, wrong texture (I thought this was one of those bumpy muds we have). Hrm. Well, I do still like the old one, too. Maybe keep both for two versions? Up to you.

[Arcturus]

Springheel? Decide, you're the boss.

[Springheel]

To be honest the old one looks much lower res and has some weird normal-map issues. I'd rather we make a better, high-res 'bumpy rock' texture if necessary rather than keep both.

[New Horizon]

Yeah, I agree with you Spring. The new version improves upon the old greatly.

[Arcturus]

New door textures:

http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=door1ag6.jpg

http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=door2wy1.jpg

[Springheel]

Very nice!

[Tels]

New door textures:

http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=door1ag6.jpg

http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=door2wy1.jpg

 

Verry nice, but I notice the wood grain is exact the same for both doors - which would look mighty odd if both are used in the same map (or next to each other). Would it be hard to change one to have the wood grain different, or just flip it upside down?

[Arcturus]

As much odd as all textures used more than one time in a map. Mappers can flip or rotate the door if they want to.

[Tels]

As much odd as all textures used more than one time in a map.

 

There is a difference between using the same brick texture for two walls, and having two different doors share the same wood grain.

 

Mappers can flip or rotate the door if they want to.

 

They shouldn't need to.

[Springheel]

They're two different colours of the same image; what's the problem? If someone uses the same brick image and makes a dark version and a light version, we don't ask them to change the pattern of the bricks.

[Tels]

They're two different colours of the same image; what's the problem? If someone uses the same brick image and makes a dark version and a light version, we don't ask them to change the pattern of the bricks.

 

In fact, I'd ask them to make a different pattern (With bricks, it is actually not that noticable, IMHO).

 

With the doors the problem is they look like industrial doors, where for each door/woodpiece the pattern is the same, because the pattern is actually fake and printed instead of being real wood.

 

However, if SVN was reachable, I would just flip/shift/change the pattern on one door.... *curses at dyndns*

[Arcturus]

And then normalmap would not fit (they are sharing one normalmap).

[greebo]

I don't see any problem with the door above. If the wood grain pattern (!) bugs you, you can always place a decal over that door to get some variation.

[SneaksieDave]

Nor I, it's certainly not the first (or second, or hundredth) thing we have which shares art.

 

Edit: to clarify, we have enough bad material in the repository that we should concentrate efforts on getting rid of or fixing that, more than quibbling over the good stuff.

 

That said though, perhaps if this is really just a color shift, it could be accomplished via the material entry with RGB, as opposed to adding another diffuse file.

[Arcturus]

That said though, perhaps if this is really just a color shift, it could be accomplished via the material entry with RGB, as opposed to adding another diffuse file.

 

I admit I haven't try that.

Another door: http://img443.imageshack.us/my.php?image=doorji5.jpg

[Springheel]

Wow, cool! I think our collection of doors has doubled over the past week.

[Arcturus]

I also uploaded new shingles:

http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shinglesqe7.jpg

[Arcturus]

I was messing around with door material file and the effects are quite nice. I could make more color variations:

http://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=door1ju2.jpg

However filter does not apply when door are frob highlighted in complete darkness:

http://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=door2ay0.jpg

 

I have no idea how to change the code:

 

{  blend diffusemap
map textures/darkmod/door/wood/9panels_01_pale_worn
red 0.4
green 0.2
blue 0.2
}
bumpmap textures/darkmod/door/wood/9panels_01_pale_worn_local
{
if ( parm11 > 0 )
blend	   gl_dst_color, gl_one
map		 _white
rgb		 0.40 * parm11
}
{
if ( parm11 > 0 )
blend	   add
map		 textures/darkmod/door/wood/9panels_01_pale_worn
rgb		 0.15 * parm11
}

[greebo]

However filter does not apply when door are frob highlighted in complete darkness:

You mean, the color filter does not apply for the frob highlight? I think you need to change the frob highlight code to use the same rgb weighting as the diffusemap, like this:

 

{  blend diffusemap
map textures/darkmod/door/wood/9panels_01_pale_worn
red 0.4
green 0.2
blue 0.2
}
bumpmap textures/darkmod/door/wood/9panels_01_pale_worn_local
{
if ( parm11 > 0 )
blend	   gl_dst_color, gl_one
map		 _white
red		 0.4* parm11	// <<--- separate red, green, blue addition
green	0.2* parm11	 // <<--- separate red, green, blue addition
blue		0.2* parm11	// <<--- separate red, green, blue addition
}
{
if ( parm11 > 0 )
blend	   add
map		 textures/darkmod/door/wood/9panels_01_pale_worn
red		 0.4* parm11	// <<--- separate red, green, blue addition
green	0.2* parm11	 // <<--- separate red, green, blue addition
blue		0.2* parm11	 // <<--- separate red, green, blue addition
}

Does this work? I guess the frob highlight will be too strong when using the rgb = weighting, so you might want to tone it down to rgb = just for the highlight code.

[Tels]

You mean, the color filter does not apply for the frob highlight? I think you need to change the frob highlight code to use the same rgb weighting as the diffusemap, like this:

 

{  blend diffusemap
map textures/darkmod/door/wood/9panels_01_pale_worn
red 0.4
green 0.2
blue 0.2
}
bumpmap textures/darkmod/door/wood/9panels_01_pale_worn_local
{
if ( parm11 > 0 )
blend	   gl_dst_color, gl_one
map		 _white
red		 0.4* parm11	// <<--- separate red, green, blue addition
green	0.2* parm11	 // <<--- separate red, green, blue addition
blue		0.2* parm11	// <<--- separate red, green, blue addition
}
{
if ( parm11 > 0 )
blend	   add
map		 textures/darkmod/door/wood/9panels_01_pale_worn
red		 0.4* parm11	// <<--- separate red, green, blue addition
green	0.2* parm11	 // <<--- separate red, green, blue addition
blue		0.2* parm11	 // <<--- separate red, green, blue addition
}

Does this work? I guess the frob highlight will be too strong when using the rgb = <0.4, 0.2, 0.2> weighting, so you might want to tone it down to rgb = <0.2, 0.1, 0.1> just for the highlight code.

 

In addition, that should be "parm0", "parm1", and "parm2", so you can set the door color in the editor via the _color spawnarg

[Arcturus]

added new wooden panel, panel_floral_arches:

http://img413.imageshack.us/my.php?image=panelslv8.jpg

[Springheel]

Very nice!

[Crispy]

Cool!

 

Are there normal maps on there? The lighting direction seems a bit off in places. Other than that it looks great.

[Tels]

added new wooden panel, panel_floral_arches:

 

Nice and you used a interesting map to show them off

[Arcturus]

Thanks guys. I used fragments of a photo I made last year: http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=szwedlp5.jpg

Nice and you used a interesting map to show them off  

Yep I always try new textures on existing maps.

The lighting direction seems a bit off in places.

Well, it's not perfect, but I spent enough time on it already. Sorry

edit: Ok, maybe I'll remove some more shadows from the diffusemap.