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#1 demagogue

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 08:26 AM

The TTLG mods PM'd me wanting to add TDM FMs to their list of "FM by type" thread.

I don't have time, but will anyone volunteer to make a list of which categories TDM FMs fall into (e.g., City, Forest, Church, Undead, etc...)? This is a cool thing any fan can do.

You can see the categories in that thread. It would help get more people over there playing our FMs, and it occurred to me, it'd be a great list for us to have for ourselves too. If someone does want to do it, you could just post it in this thread, I'll shoot it over to TTLG, and we can find a place for it like on the wiki or something like that.

Edit: Update, if a FM is in multiple categories, they're asking to put the primary one in first place, as that's where it will get put for now (and not the other ones, until possibly later).

Edit2: For quick reference, here are the categories in the TTLG thread we should use for their purposes. (After that we can have our own list however we like if we put something up on the wiki.)

Bank Jobs, Castle Missions/Fortress, Church/Cathedral, City Missions, Daylight Missions, Hammerite (I told them to put "TDM (Builder)" for our additions to this category), Horror FMs, Jail/Prison Missions, Lost Civilizations, Mansion/Estate FMs, Museum Missions, Pagan/Outdoor Missions,Pirate Missions, Sewer, Spiders, Swamp, Thieves Highway/Rooftop Missions, Tombs, Catacombs & Crypts, Undead or Zombies, Warehouse Missions, Seasonal/Holiday FMs (specify the season), Most often recommended/Must play (we should hand over the most recommended TDM FM list), Most absorbing/Keep Busy FMs, Hardest FMs, Small/Short FMs, Phobic FMs, (FMs in which the phobia (heights, spiders, undead) plays a significant role.), Series/Multi Mission, Contests,
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#2 jaxa

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 11:09 AM

A Night to Remember
Mansion/Estate FMs, Horror FMs, Experimental

A Score to Settle
City Missions

Alberic's Curse
Seasonal, Horror FMs, Church/Cathedral, Undead or Zombies, Catacombs & Crypts

Alchemist
???
Campaign: Thief's Den #4

Awaiting the Storm
City Missions

Betrayal
(Jail/Prison Missions or Tombs, Catacombs & Crypts, Undead or Zombies?)
Contest: Summer Vertical Contest 2010

Business as Usual
Seasonal, City Mission, Sewer, Guards/Thieves

Closemouthed Shadows
Mansion/Estate FMs

Crystal Grave
Undead or Zombies, Castle Missions/Fortress

Deceptive Shadows
Church/Cathedral

Dragon's Claw
Horror FMs, City Mission/Undead, Sewer, Guards/Thieves

Fiasco at Fauchard Street
City Missions

Flakebridge Monastery
Church/Cathedral
Campaign: Selis Woderose #1

Glenham Tower
???
Campaign: Thomas Porter #3

Heart of Lone Salvation
City Missions, Mansion/Estate FMs
Campaign: Thief's Den #3

House in Blackbog Hollow
Seasonal/Holiday FMs, Fall, Horror FMs

House of Theo
Castle Missions/Fortress

Illusionist's Tower
Horror FMs
Contest: Summer Vertical Contest 2010

In Remembrance of Him
City Missions

Knighton Manor
Mansion/Estate FMs
Campaign: Thomas Porter #1

Let Sleeping Thieves Lie
Undead or Zombies, City Missions

Living Expenses
Mansion/Estate FMs

Lockdown
City Mission, Builders/Guards

Mad's Mountain
(Tombs, Catacombs & Crypts?)
Contest: Summer Vertical Contest 2010

Mandrasola
City Missions
Campaign: Thomas Porter #0

No Honor Among Thieves
Series/Multi Mission, City Missions, Pagan/Outdoor Missions
Campaign

Old Habits
Mansion/Estate FMs, Castle Missions/Fortress

Pandora's Box
Ship/Pirate Missions

Patently Dangerous
City Missions

Rake-off
Seasonal/Holiday FMs, Fall
Campaign: Selis Woderose #2

Reap as you sow
Seasonal/Holiday FMs, Summer, Daylight Missions

Return to the City
City Missions, Builders/Guards, Highway/Rooftop

Rightful Property
Bank Jobs, City Missions
Contest: Community Beginner's Contest 2012

Samhain Night on Bone Hill
Seasonal/Holiday FMs, Fall, Horror FMs

Siege Shop
Castle Missions/Fortress

Sneak and Destroy
City Missions
Contest: Community Beginner's Contest 2012

Somewhere Above the City
Seasonal/Holiday FMs, Summer
Contest: Summer Vertical Contest 2010

Sons of Baltona 1
(Mansion/Estate FMs?)

Special Delivery
Warehouse Missions

St Albans Cathedral
Church/Cathedral, City Missions, Builders/Guards, Sewer, Catacombs & Crypts, Caves, Highway/Rooftop
Campaign: St. Alban

Swing
Experimental
Contest: Summer Vertical Contest 2010

The Beleaguered Fence
Jail/Prison Missions
Campaign: Thomas Porter #2

The Builder Roads
Castle Missions/Fortress, Undead or Zombies

The Builder's Blocks
Experimental

The Builders Influence
(Castle Missions/Fortress or Church/Cathedral?)

The Caduceus of St Alban
Church/Cathedral, Outside, Builders/Guards, Caves, Highway/Rooftop
Campaign: St. Alban

The Chalice of Kings
???
Campaign: Thief's Den #2

The Creeps
Seasonal/Holiday FMs, Fall, Horror FMs

The Crown of Penitence
Mansion/Estate FMs

The Lich Queen's Demise
???
Campaign: Thomas Porter #6

The Outpost
Castle Missions/Fortress

The Parcel
Seasonal/Holiday FMs, Winter, Mansion/Estate FMs

The Phrase Book
Thieves' Highway/Rooftop Missions
Campaign: Thomas Porter #5

The Rift
Lost Civilizations, Tombs, Catacombs & Crypts
Contest: Summer Vertical Contest 2010

The Transaction
???
Campaign: Thomas Porter #4

Thief's Den
???
Campaign: Thief's Den #1

Thieves


Too Late
Warehouse Missions

Trapped!
Jail/Prison Missions

Vengeance for a Thief Part 1
Jail/Prison Missions, City Missions

Winter Harvest
Seasonal/Holiday FMs, Winter, Castle, Pagan/Outdoor, Undead

WS1: In the North
Mansion/Estate FMs

Edited by jaxa, 02 June 2013 - 02:07 PM.


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Posted 27 May 2013 - 11:35 AM

Change

* A Night to Remember - Mansion/Horror/Experimental
* Betrayal - Unreal/Undead
* Reap as you sow - Seasonal/Holiday FMs, Fall Summer

Edited by Fieldmedic, 27 May 2013 - 12:51 PM.


#4 jaxa

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 12:14 PM

post like this:

Add
* Trapped! - Genre(s)
* Mission - Genre(s)

Change
* Mission - Genre(s)

and I'll update the post, maybe add it to the Wiki

Edited by jaxa, 27 May 2013 - 12:14 PM.


#5 grayman

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 12:21 PM

Add
* In the North - Mansion/Estate FMs
* Somewhere Above the City - Summer Vertical Contest

#6 demagogue

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 03:20 PM

Update (also added to the OP), if a FM is in multiple categories, they're asking to put the primary one in first place, as that's where it will get put for now (and not the other ones, until possibly later).

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Patently Dangerous: City
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Posted 27 May 2013 - 04:15 PM

Change
*Old Habits - Castle/Mansion
*Builder Roads - Castle/Outside, Ghost, Pro(?)
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Posted 27 May 2013 - 05:37 PM

Change
*Crystal Grave - Undead / Fortress

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#9 nbohr1more

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 10:09 PM

The rift is more of a lost civilization and catacomb mission
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Posted 27 May 2013 - 10:13 PM

Reap as you sow is a daylight mission
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Posted 27 May 2013 - 10:19 PM

Trapped and VFAT1 are both prison missions
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Posted 27 May 2013 - 10:20 PM

Rightful property is a bank job / city mission
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#13 Sir Taffsalot

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 01:50 AM

Trapped and VFAT1 are both prison missions


VFAT1 is a Prison Break and City FM. The city section is just as big as the City watch area so its a mission of two halfs.

Sleeping Thieves has a bit of everything in it. But to keep things simple I would just label it as a City / Undead FM.
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Posted 28 May 2013 - 02:42 PM

I have updated the decriptions for my missions and those I have worked on.

Alberic's Curse
Seasonal, Horror, Church/Cathedral, Undead or Zombies, Catacombs & Crypts.

Business as Usual
Seasonal, City Mission, Sewer, Guards/Thieves.

Closemouthed Shadows
City Mission, Guards.

Dragon's Claw
Horror, City Mission/Undead, Sewer, Guards/Thieves.

Lockdown
City Mission, Builders/Guards.

Return to the City
City Mission, Builders/Guards, Highway/Rooftop,

St Alban's Cathedral
City Mission, Builders/Guards Church/Cathedral, Sewer, Catacombs & Crypts, Caves, Highway/Rooftop.

The Caduceus of St Alban
Outside, Church/Cathedral, Builders/Guards, Caves, Highway/Rooftop.

Winter Harvest
Seasonal/Holiday, Castle, Pagan/Outdoor, Undead.

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 04:54 PM

Sorry Biker, but as I recall Closemouthed Shadows takes place almost entirely indoors so I don't
think most players would consider it a City mission. It probably is best categorized as Manor\Estate.

I think Deceptive Shadows counts as a Church\Cathedral mission?

Heart of Lone Salvation is a City Mission and Manor\Estate mission

Crown of Penitence is a Manor\Estate mission

The Parcel is also a Manor\Estate mission
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Posted 28 May 2013 - 05:28 PM

I think The Parcel is best described as seasonal since it's like a Christmas mission.

After this list by mission is done we should condense each mission to one genre (bolded) and make a final list by category (and separately by campaign/contest).

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 11:17 AM

illusionist tower = implied horror, and maze you cannot escape from.

house in blackbog hollow = mild horror, and time line altering.


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if you ever got round to adding 'lord dufford' to the list then is a castle/large mansion map.

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#18 jaxa

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 05:20 PM

I pulled all the missions from this list: http://www.thedarkmod.com/missions/ so I guess "Lord Dufford" isn't hosted.

#19 SeriousToni

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Posted 02 June 2013 - 06:06 AM

As assassination is not in the list I would call Sneak & Destroy a classic City mission.
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Posted 02 June 2013 - 11:42 AM

Assassinations could definately be their own genre, though. There are already three (S&D, LQD and Thieves!) missions and I think there is interest for more.
The reason is, that assassinations are more versatile than average ordinary mission. Assassinations requires tool use and forces the player to indulge themselves in gameplay decisions like assassination method and corpse hiding.
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#21 Obsttorte

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Posted 02 June 2013 - 04:20 PM

I wouldn't call Sneak and Destroy an assasination mission neither I would LQD. The latter is a haunted mission to me, a bit special though, but not what I would understand as assasination. Sneak and Destroy is similar, you don't haveto hide the corpse neither have you to think about how to kill your target. It's also not a city mission IMHO. I would say it's some sort of mansion like mission, although this doesn't fit a houndret percent either.
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#22 SeriousToni

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Posted 02 June 2013 - 05:10 PM

Hm this is becoming difficult..
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#23 nbohr1more

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Posted 02 June 2013 - 10:57 PM

The problem is that TTLG decided on these rather arbitrary categories and now we have to sorta pigeon hole missions into them. A missions play style and locale do not necessarily coincide. Roughly, yes, these are the themes that mission builders gravitate towards but make no mistake you'll rarely find a TDM or Thief mission that really fits just one of these criteria. The endeavor is more of an homage to their Byzantine culture than any logical categorization. Still, it's cool to see TDM FM's broken down the TTLG way just for comparisons sake. It's also cool that there are enough missions to make categorization a reasonable pursuit :)
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#24 jaxa

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 12:03 AM

We can make a different list. This is just a start. With all of this discussion we've nailed a lot of the genres represented by each mission, which apparently wasn't done before.

#25 demagogue

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 07:36 AM

This is also a small practical way to get more of what should be part of our core base actually playing FMs.

Also, when 2.0 rolls around, it'll be nice not only to have a recommended FM list, but for TTLG people to have that thread & we can have a wiki page on the categories so people feel a little more comfortable thinking about what FMs to play and they can find the kind they want.
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