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Long ago I started a thread about something I dream of doing in TDM at some point: A mod that introduces modern assets over the default steampunk setup... allowing for futuristic cities, scifi weapons, computers and keypads that can be hacked, security bots patrolling areas, etc. I ultimately aim to create a campaign in the spirit and atmosphere of the first DeusEx game. Needless to say the whole thing will require loads of new assets and special scripts, but in this thread I wanted to present the concept I've been putting together for the first part of my initiative: The weapon system. So obviously my plan is to first introduce a set of modern weapons, and replace the default ones with them. You can't have the hero sneaking around a futuristic city guarded by cyborgs while wielding a wooden bow The base idea is to have the generic types found in most games, such as a pistol / machine gun / shotgun / etc. When I initially put the concept together, I imagined them as plain weapons: Find models and sounds for each gun, make them shoot bullets, and we're done. But I later realized that this is wrong, because it would remove one of the most fun and emblematic features in TDM: The special arrow types. No more shooting water arrows at flames, no more moss arrows dampening noise, no more rope arrows to climb places, etc. The idea behind TDM is that weapons (namely the bow) don't exist only to shoot at enemies, but also to interact with the environment in various ways. So I next started wondering how futuristic guns could also take in the abilities of the special arrow types. Soon enough, the revelation came to mind: Why not turn the special arrows into special projectiles, and allow ammo type to be selected per weapon? The model I want to go with is basically this: There are various types of weapons, as well as various types of projectiles. The weapon determines the pattern and scale of the projectile(s), whereas the projectile type determines the actual effect. Various weapons can be used with various projectile types, like the shotgun shooting water shells or the grenade launcher shooting noise grenades. Ammo pickups themselves are weapon specific and per type, for example "mossy shotgun shells" or "water 9mm clip". A raw idea of the overall weapons, projectile types, and ammo types planned is this: Weapon - Pistol: Shoots a single projectile, with medium accuracy and medium refire rate.Weapon - Machine Gun: Continuous stream of projectiles with lower accuracy.Weapon - Shotgun: Throws multiple projectiles in bursts, low accuracy and low refire rate.Weapon - Sniper: Shoots a single projectile afar, high accuracy and low refire rate.Weapon - Thrower: Spews a continuous gas, covering large areas at close range.Weapon - Rocket Launcher: Shoots a large projectile that flies slowly through the air.Weapon - Grenade Launcher: Shoots a large projectile that bounces around a few times then explodes.Weapon - Mine Layer: Sticks a projectile to the wall, which explodes when someone gets close.Weapon - Crossbow: Shoots a small projectile that behaves as an arrow. Projectile - Normal: Simple projectile that deals damage on impact (normal arrow).Projectile - Water: Spews water on impact (water arrow).Projectile - Fire: Explodes into flames on impact (fire arrow).Projectile - Gas: Releases poisonous gas on impact (gas arrow).Projectile - Moss: Throws moss around on impact (moss arrow).Projectile - Noise: The projectile remains still and causes noise on impact (noise arrow).Projectile - Rope: Creates a rope which can be used to climb (rope arrow).Projectile - Light: Creates a bright flash that temporarily blinds enemies (flash grenade).Projectile - EMP: Disrupts electronic devices such as bots / turrets / cameras / computers (new concept). Ammo - Bullets: Used by: Pistol, Machine Gun, Shotgun, Sniper. Can be: Normal, Water, Fire.Ammo - Gas: Used by: Thrower. Can be: Water, Fire, Gas, Moss.Ammo - Explosive: Used by: Rocket Launcher, Grenade Launcher, Mine Layer. Can be: Water, Fire, Gas, Moss, Noise, Light, EMP.Ammo - Arrow: Used by: Crossbow. Can be: Normal, Water, Fire, Gas, Moss, Noise, Rope, Light, EMP.Hopefully you can see what I'm trying to do here: Each weapon can shoot projectile categories that make sense with its pattern. For example: Water bullets are a semi-realistic concept, although rope mines don't make any sense... and noise grenades fit well, whereas noise gas would be plain silly. The crossbow is a visual replacement of the current bow, shooting the existing arrows as they are. Difficulty wise, implementing this might not be as hard as it can seem: The projectile impact effects are are already there, such as spawning a water burst that puts candles out. Each weapon will also use a single model and base texture... the color of a light or a symbol on its ammo display will indicate the type of ammo loaded in. From here it's just defining the weapons and projectile patterns themselves. With maybe an extra new feature: The ability to change ammo for the same weapon definition, since (unlike the current arrows) we can't define an entire weapon for each combination! I'd first like to know what you think of this idea, if you see it working out, and if you'd be interested in using such a weapon mod... if not let me know what you think I could change to make it better! I'm also curious if anyone is interested in helping implement this, since considering I never scripted in TDM / idTech 4 before it might take a while for me to get things rolling on my own.

Hey, Every time I've try to use the Full Editor when PM'ing someone, and every single time I get an error. Whoever is in charge of the forum, is it possible that this could be fixed? Thanks Neon

Was looking through some of my old files and got a bit nostalgic. I suspect most people here have never seen these--they're some of the earliest concept sketches I did back in 2004 during the very earliest development days of TDM. I thought I'd post them for those curious about how things started. The very first concept piece, from August 23, 2004. We didn't even have a name for the mod yet: The first Builder concept, Sept 19, 2004, then a slightly adjusted colour version with pauldrons added: The second Builder Priest concept. Oct 11th, 2004. This was the piece of concept art that got Oddity, our character modeler, interested in joining the mod: The first concept sketch of the City Watch, Oct 16th, 2004:

I'm wondering if anyone ever checks new posts in the Fan Missions Forums? I've posted 4 questions asking for help for 4 different missions that I can't finish because I"m stuck, and I don't get any help. I posted a question this morning so I don't expect an answer right away for that one. Its frustrating because I would like to finish them. I've read through the posts for each mission and I'm not getting anything from them. If there's someone who could help me I'd really appreciate it. Thanks I guess I'm spoiled from the TTLG forums.

Hi all, me again Now that I've learned how to take screenies on DM (thanks to Aluminumhaste) I wanted to post one that I took but I got an error saying that the image ext that I used was not allowed in these forums, It was .jpg so I changed it to .png and I got the same error again. They're on Photobucket.

Characters and related Townsfolk: - Whores - Amateur Guards - City Watch - Female Thief - Generic Townsfolk - More Helmets - Nobleman - Noblewoman - NPC Thieves - Possible Elite City Watch - Professional Guard - Various Helmet Concepts Builders: - Builder Acolytes Pagans: - Elite Pagans - Pagan Creature / Trickster - Pagan Warriors Inventors: - Security Cameras - BoilerBot 1 - Bot ideas - Cherub Bot - Inventor's Guild Engineers - Inventor's Guild Scientists - More Inventors (chemists?) Magical: - Necromancers - Older Mage - Several Mages - Wealthy Mage, detail --------- Props - Wall Fountains - Bioluminescent Mushrooms - Door handles/locks - Hammer Forge - Machines - More Machines - Street Lamp - Tiffany Table Lamp - Windows and Fireplaces --------- Environments - Castle Image - City Reference Pictures (lots) - City Street Sketches - City Alley Concept - Fountains - Mansion Interior with Fountain - Mansion Interiors - The Slough (flooded district) --------- Weapons / Equipment - Breath Potion - Gas Arrow - Health Potion - More Potions - Noise Arrow - Rope arrow --------- Gameplay Stuff - Objectives Screen - Purchase Screen - HUD display - Menu Screens - Possible purchase menu - Scrolls and Readables parchment Floorplans - Mansion Floorplan City and House concepts - City --------- Campaign Stuff - Alternate Founder Concepts - The Founders - The Raven Harp