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I just tried HL2: VR yesterday and got blown away by the level of quality. Got curious again how this mod is progressing, and imagine my shock - it's the same developer. Now I'm even more hyped for TDM VR. It have the potential to become one of the best VR games. The only other Thief- style game I know is Unknightly. But, ironically, it was abandoned by developer in alpha stage in a completely un-knightly manner. Adding full VR inventory and interactions to TDM will be perfect: - Stealth, horror and atmosphere aspects are greatly enhanced in VR (judging by my recent experience playing Into The Radius, which has all these elements, but is not focused on stealth as much). - This is a popular mod that gets constant updates and improvements with a modern version of Doom engine. So basically, "free" updates. - Constant stream of new missions to play. - Robust, accurate physics engine should be perfect for VR interactions (picking up stuff and bodies). One of the challenges would probably be making sure that the player has full control over his movement and the amount of noise he makes. With keyboard and mouse, it's easy to do precise movements which are needed in missions when you're in a tight spot. With VR, there's issues, like if you physically lean forward, most games will just move invisible player capsule forward (the capsule itself stays upright at all times) and then suddenly your view gets higher as the game registers your movement as if you stepped up on a table. But you want to lean over it. Anyway, it's just a speculation on my part. I'm a game dev myself, but haven't worked on actual VR game yet (too lazy, I guess). Maybe I should get my hands dirty at some point... I have some experience with C++, but not with Doom 3 engine.

Thanks! Hint for the safe code here: https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/21837-fan-mission-the-lieutenant-2-high-expectations-by-frost_salamander-20230424/&do=findComment&comment=485264 Actually, it's probably time I added these hints to the original post....

Yesterday I updated DR from source. So that's 2.13 +++ (production). Now the keyboard shortcuts also don't work under Window layout SplitPane. In my previous 2.12 +++ build, SplitPane layout worked fine with the keyboard shortcuts. Probably unrelated other things I noticed: Edit: I started using the wxAUI-based Dockable layout and I think it will be an improvement in the long run. I just have to get used to using CtrL + TAB to switch to the different viewpoints instead of having them all on the screen at the same time.

Let me elaborate on this tactic: 1) Postulate some crazy concepts about historical events until one gains a little traction either by morons or people who find it to be an amusing meme 2) Test the waters in different forums and social media spaces to see how folks react to this 3) If the forum crowd is determined to be largely left-wing and rationale, overamplify how "idiotic" people are for believing XYZ and then slowly begin associating these "idiots" with anyone they consider their social or political adversaries until you get large numbers of forum members to rant about right-wing "Trump-tards" (etc) and foam at the mouth about all their political grievances 4) Pretend to be a right leaning person, act like a jerk, and get your posts censored 5) Go to right leaning forums and show them that this "theory" is being censored and see if you can get them to integrate it into the larger narrative of "true things that the left is censoring". ( Eg, add it to the pile of Qanon nonsense ). 6) Return to the left leaning forums to mock the right leaning folks for doing step 5. Mission accomplished, you've entrenched more poorly educated people into an absurd belief system and you've ignited a bunch of left-wing derision against them. This type of agitated polarization works well whether you are Putin, the Republican Party, Democrats, etc. Divide and conquer. Here's a tip: Nobody needs to grouse around about what "idiotic" things people believe. If you don't like people believing dumb things, then create a blog, youtube video, or podcast explaining the topic in easy ( and friendly ) terms to those you wish to evangelize into the world of being "not idiotic". The language of referring to people as "those idiots who believe" is a cancer that we suffer too much of these days with political propaganda organizations such as "Media Matters for America" (MMFA) who basically write a single set of political jokes about a daily topic and feed them to all the Late Night television hosts so that if you don't hear them say "republican person X did \ said this dumb thing" from one late night personality, you surely will hear it from another one and the version of what is told omits any nuance or rational counterpoint. In some cases, the words are out-right fabricated from out-of-context statements or things that MMFA thinks people will believe. Here's a perfect example: To this day, late night comedians treat the incriminating emails on Hunter Biden's laptop as "fake Russian slander" even though the New York Times has corroborated their authenticity and they are DKIM signed. They use the laptop story as a talking point about how Republican's are "pro Russian idiots" even though nobody of either political party would be happy to have the son of a vice president using his father's position to arrange financial scams and deals with geopolitical enemies ( China ). Because the latter information is largely invisible to over 50% of the US populace, it serves as a perfect place for political divide and conquer. If the entirety of mainstream entertainment and news are gonna bury or distort legitimate news stories about their allies, what are the chances that anyone will vote for a moderate "middle" candidate? The left will see right-leaning voters who discuss the laptop story as Russian traitors and the Right will see the left as "idiots" who get all their news from television comedians and insane "woke" SJW blue hairs. Perfectly divisive. People need to stop looking at the proles on the ground and start thinking about all the groups that are trying to pull the strings. So I state again, this is no place for astro-turfers, propagandists, and non-linear warfare. Nobody here really cares about what dumb things are floating through the brains of a small group of internet denizens. If these "idiots" grow in numbers, calling them idiots "louder" will not "cure" them or shrink their numbers. The only thing you will achieve is more entrenchment and polarization.

Can you further explain why? Both of them: why do you say full VR only or one controller only? One of the reasons I made this was (I give 2 reasons) that VR is expensive to buy (in most cases) and because many years ago (no VR existed back then, at least not the VR as it is today) existed the idea that when you are (in game) in front of a corner of a wall, and you naturally have the tendency to lean, to look past that corner. I've also seen people playing with keyboard and mouse like 20 years ago and they had a tendency to lean to a side to look further ... that move is made instinctively. So that idea "follow the player side movement with the monitor" always was in my mind. I know full VR is way better than this, it gives you an amazing experience, and this kind of leaning can't compete with that. Anyway, this can improve gameplay experience if you don't own a VR headset. Does TDM support VR headsets? I'm asking out of ignorance, I just made a search in the forum and looks like it does not. One more thing: if I play with keyboard + mouse, I have to use Q and E for leaning. If I use my head, there is another controller: keyboard + mouse + phone but I don't have to use Q and E anymore, then the player is freed from having to use fingers for leaning. And you have 2 keys that can be bound to another actions ... Q and E are direct neighbors of W, and your middle finger is always over the W if you play with keyboard. This could be extended to gamepads. Ok, so if you play with the best gamepad around, why you would want to lean with the analog stick and not with your head? (I'm asking this thinking of all possibilities, so ... if you were playing, why would you choose one kind of lean over the other? )

Mouse and keyboard are just more easy to use than a controller for FPS. Of course you can play them with a controller. You also could play them with an eye tracker or pedals and a steering wheel. It certainly needs more skill to do it that way. I could use a screwdriver with nails or a hammer for screws. Depending on the materials and my skill it might even work. But it would certainly not be the right tool for the job. The thing with keyboard is that is has tons of buttons that can be bound to functions or used to enter text. Most games could be designed so that they use just a minimum amount of buttons. But a lot of them can utilize quite a lot of them. That is the reason for controllers getting a lot more buttons since the arcade games era. Also you can enter text with a keyboard and text chat is the least bandwidth-hungry way of communication in multiplayer. The mouse (and its reversed version - the trackball) is the most precise pointing device after the touch pen. You certainly can point with aan analog stick too. But it is harder to use that as precise as the mouse. Keyboard and mouse are the more versatile, and for some genres more appropriate, tool. There are certainly genres that really profit from two analog sticks too (the Zelda example was rather arbitrary because certainly that would work even better with keyboard and mouse if they just had implemented proper support for them). Where the controller really shines is when it comes to space requirements. Keyboard and mouse need space on a table (or possibly laps when using a trackball) - a controller does not. That might be the real reason why consoles are still used with controllers only. Consoles are often placed in the living room where the tables are too low for comfortably using a keyboard and mouse. The PC traditionally sits on or below a table - so there is plenty of space to place a keyboard and mouse (and other input devices). P.S.: I would love to see eye tracking support becomming mainstream in PC gaming - in combination with VR and a threadmill.

I never realised Bill Gates was a member of these forums. Welcome to the community! I hope you enjoy The Dark Mod. Perhaps your Foundation could help pay for the server hosting or fund the development of some new features?

Thomas Porter is back in a TDM FM called... LQD is a medium sized FM, made for the TDM unusual contest 2013, where Thomas Porter sets out to get rid of the Lich Queen once and for all! Will he succeed, or will the evil Lich Queen get her sinister revenge on Thomas? The mission was created by me, Sotha. Betatesters: Bikerdude, nbohr1more and Obsttorte are thanked for their efforts on improving this work. Big thanks to TylerVocal for excellent voice acting. Thanks to freesound audio artists: Amliebsh (39222), Steveygos93 (80401), Jackie4ever (83095) and Klankbeeld (133100). Immense thanks for the developer team and everyone contributing to the mod. Release notes: *This mission has player character narration. There is no way to control the volume of the player lines in TDM 1.08 and they are at 100% volume at all times. For optimal experience, be sure to set SFX and ambient close to 100% volume in the in-game audio settings and fine tune the volume to nice levels from you operating system's mixer. That way the world sounds match the player voice in volume and your gameplay experience is not reduced by very loud player narrative. *This mission involves using objects with other objects. Normally objects are used like this: push R to drop the item into your hands, move the item where you want to place or use it. *This mission has a video briefing, so you have the habit of skipping the TDM logo which is visible before the briefing, do not skip it or you will miss the briefing. Download link: Use the ingame downloader to get it. As always, it is not recommended to read the thread further before you have completed the mission. Someone will fail to use spoiler tags. [spoiler] This will be hidden [/spoiler] Enjoy! Please remember to give comments and vote! -Sotha.

Evening My trust Dell keyboard is now showing its age (5+ yrs) and its time to replace it. I've selected a keyboards from several the shops near where I live and they are all utter crap, either they feel horrible to use or the keys just plain don't work reliably. What I know about the dell is it has normal longish travel keys, unlike all the ones that plague the above shops. I cant stand keyboard that try to be like laptop keyboards, with short travel, keys that are too close together and no solid sensation when you press a key. ta.

I'm wondering if anyone ever checks new posts in the Fan Missions Forums? I've posted 4 questions asking for help for 4 different missions that I can't finish because I"m stuck, and I don't get any help. I posted a question this morning so I don't expect an answer right away for that one. Its frustrating because I would like to finish them. I've read through the posts for each mission and I'm not getting anything from them. If there's someone who could help me I'd really appreciate it. Thanks I guess I'm spoiled from the TTLG forums.

Hi all, me again Now that I've learned how to take screenies on DM (thanks to Aluminumhaste) I wanted to post one that I took but I got an error saying that the image ext that I used was not allowed in these forums, It was .jpg so I changed it to .png and I got the same error again. They're on Photobucket.

What would be the advantage of undoing a selection via the undo action(so probably via a keyboard shortcut) compared to undoing it via a mouse-click as it is done now? If I accidently select something, I can just deselect it. I never considered this to have to be an "undo-action", as I am basically not really doing something (in terms of altering the map). Maybe I am overseeing something but I don't see what is to gain here.

The Transaction is a small/medium sized map in which aspiring thief Thomas Porter delivers the cryptic book, 'De Vermis Mysteriis' to a bookstore owner named Victor de Grenefeld. It is the fourth mission in the Thomas Porter series, continuing from where The Glenham Tower ended. The mission was created by me, Sotha and I wish to thank BrokenArts, Melan and Ocn for playtesting and Bikerdude, BrokenArts and Ocn for voiceacting. An enormous thanks goes also to the fine people who created TDM and are still working hard, bringing it ever closer to perfection. Thanks also to the community for helping with my mapping efforts. Extra thanks to freesound.org -contributors who make excellent quality sound effects available for free. Trailer (thanks to ocn!) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBdEsKoqWl4 Briefing: Ah, the town of Glenham. I never really thought I would be happy to see its shabby wooden miner dwellings, but after the nightmares of the Glenham Tower I'm happy to see any kind of civilization. During my return trip from the tower the ghostly mist veil transformed into an intense thunderstorm and heavy rain. My clothes are soaked and I'm dreadfully tired of the harsh tribulations of the past few days. My task for tonight is simple. All I have to do is to get the strange and incomprehensible book I obtained from the tower, 'De Vermis Mysteriis,' to the bookstore owner Victor de Grenefeld. And more importantly collect the hefty sum the bookstore owner promised to pay me. With that kind of sum I can sit back and relax for a while. I'd better stay in good terms with my customer and not steal from him. I have the hunch that de Grenefeld is a well connected man so staying on his good side might be beneficial for me in the future: maybe they'll need a skilled adventurer like me and I could turn legitimate. I could earn my keep and I wouldn't need to constantly hide from the city watch. At any rate, I've got it all planned out for the remainder of the night. I'll visit the bookstore, drop the book to de Grenefeld and collect my fee. After that I'd better hide in the basement of an abandoned building I've spotted near the town north gate and get some well deserved rest. I don't think the city watch would think a cloaked and armed person like me would be on honorable business in a stormy weather like this so it would be wise to avoid all confrontation with the guards. I do not need any misunderstadings with the city watch right now. The undead horrors in the Tower forced me to expend most of my tools and I desperately need more equipment if I intend to continue my budding adventuring career. I should get some extra gold for new gear and maybe a few holy water potions just in case. There is a Builder church nearby where I might be able to find some. I suspect those fanatics might have gold hidden there as well.. It is time to move in the town and get the things done quickly. Somehow I have a bad feeling about all this. It's probably nothing, probably I am just jumpy because of the horrors in the Tower and sleep deprivation. Tomorrow I'll sleep long, relax and eat well. UPDATED LINK: Use the ingame downloader to get it. Bikerdude was added in the author, I forgot him. No other chages. Could The Powers That Be make sure that this version ends up in the ingame downloader? Thanks! Known bugs: One betatester experienced an error ("ERROR: Failed to spawn player as 'atdm:player_thief'"), which drops the player back to main menu upon map load. If you experience this scenario, please turn EAX off in the options menu. That cleared the problem for the tester. Warning! There is ALWAYS someone who fails to use spoiler tags appropriately. I recommend you read this thread further only after playing the mission! Avoid spoilers.

DarkRadiant 3.2.0 is ready for download. What's new: Feature: Show entityDefs related to selected models in Model Chooser Feature: Support for rendering blend lights Feature: Implement sorting of Interaction Stages Feature: Recognise type of "set x on y" spawnargs Feature: OBJ files: loader supports usemtl keywords directly referencing material names (without .mtl file) Fixed: Material editor: additional preview object in textures/glass/ materials Fixed: Every attempt to load a texture will trigger a SIGSEGV signal caught: 11 Improvement: Update to wxWidgets 3.2.0 Windows and Mac Downloads are available on Github: https://github.com/codereader/DarkRadiant/releases/tag/3.2.0 and of course linked from the website https://www.darkradiant.net Thanks to all the awesome people who keep using DarkRadiant to create Fan Missions - they are the main reason for me to keep going. Please report any bugs or feature requests here in these forums, following these guidelines: Bugs (including steps for reproduction) can go directly on the tracker. When unsure about a bug/issue, feel free to ask. If you run into a crash, please record a crashdump: Crashdump Instructions Feature requests should be suggested (and possibly discussed) here in these forums before they may be added to the tracker. The list of changes can be found on the our bugtracker changelog. Have fun mapping!

Yep, might be nice in VR. But in keyboard/mouse mode you would have to filter out the keyboard clicketiclackety - certainly doable but definitely not trivial...

here's another reason why you shouldn't install windows 10 every so often windows 10 will set the keyboard setup to English US, even if its not even installed and you only have English UK or any other language like dutch language dutch keyboard it then changes to English language US keyboard. even if you have keyboard switching keys not set and only one keyboard settings installed, when you are not using it, windows auto changes it back to English US. on us keyboard there's no £ key and @ key is " windows edge does complain when installing firefox, and every so often when opening firefox it will ask if you still want firefox as your default browser, and after updates windows 10 auto opens edge to show whats new, even before virus checker has reloaded after update boot. (very dangerous in my view of virus checker not loading until after internet page is loaded in edge)

DarkRadiant 3.0.0 is ready for download. It took a while, but DarkRadiant 3.0.0 is finally available. Most of the time has been spent on improving DarkRadiant's renderer, which now features shadow mapping support of up to 6 lights. It's still not matching the engine's output (especially in terms of performance), but it should be faster and much more helpful than it was before. The effort that has been put into the renderer rewrite plus the bigger changes in the previous few releases make the jump to the next major version feel more than justified. Besides of that, a lot of non-renderer issues have been resolved in this release too, next to some fine usability improvements. For more things that have changed or fixed, see the list below. Windows and Mac Downloads are available on Github: https://github.com/codereader/DarkRadiant/releases/tag/3.0.0 and of course linked from the website https://www.darkradiant.net Thanks go out to all who helped testing this release! And I'll gladly repeat myself, by thanking all the awesome people who keep using DarkRadiant to create Fan Missions - they are the main reason for me to keep going. Please report any bugs or feature requests here in these forums, following these guidelines: Bugs (including steps for reproduction) can go directly on the tracker. When unsure about a bug/issue, feel free to ask. If you run into a crash, please record a crashdump: Crashdump Instructions Feature requests should be suggested (and possibly discussed) here in these forums before they may be added to the tracker. Changes since 2.14.0 Feature: Realtime shadow mode Feature: Allow way to hide some entities in Create Entity list Feature: MD5 Animation Viewer: show current frame & total frames Feature: MD5 Animation Viewer: jump to frame Feature: DarkRadiant warns about missing .darkradiant file on load Feature: Ability to center 3D camera on selected entity Feature: Cut functionality to complement copy and paste Feature: Save user settings by application version Fixed: Free Rotation not working anymore, can only rotate along 3 axes Fixed: DR crash with combination of mouse buttons pressed Fixed: Git Sync Exception: too many redirects or authentication replays Fixed: Missing brushes when opening alphalabs1 from vanilla Doom 3 PK4s Fixed: Selected Skin not showing in ModelSelector Fixed: Reload Defs takes longer every time Fixed: ForceShadows materials are not casting shadows Fixed: Objective GUI doesn't display properly in some places Fixed: Crash on loading certain maps Fixed: Vertex colours do not show on models in lighting mode Fixed: Entity inspector shows inherited spawnargs of previous selection Fixed: DR overwrite order for defs is different from TDM's Fixed: X/Y and Camera View bindings don't save properly Fixed: Material Preview rendering Fixed: "Replace Selection with exported Model" sets classname to "func_static". Fixed: Map -> Edit Package Info (darkmod.txt)... crashes DarkRadiant Fixed: Rotating a func_static result to random stretch textures Fixed: DR crashes when syncing with remote Git repository Fixed: Switching visibility of Github repo from public to private causes crash Fixed: Dockable window layout doesn't save new floating XY views Fixed: "Choose skin..." button on custom model spawnargs shows skins for main model spawnarg Fixed: Entity inspector considers inherited colors black Fixed: ReloadDefs moves def_attached light crystals to entity origin Fixed: Option to filter skins out of search results in the Choose Model dialogue Fixed: .lin files can't be opened if different case than .map name Fixed: Model chooser radio box selection issue Fixed: Changing multiple lights between omni/projected resets colours to black Improvement: Allow absolute paths for snapshots Improvement: Light diamonds and Speaker radii are transparent Improvement: Unify Declaration Parsers Improvement: Add "Create Particle" to right-click orthoview drop-down menu Improvement: Revisit Interaction Shader to get closer to the TDM looks Improvement: Entity inspector should recognise spawnargs beginning with "sprS_" as def spawnargs Improvement: UI for worldspawn-to-entity conversion Improvement: classname field should always be read-only, to force use of the "Choose entity class" button Coding: Update solution and build dependencies to Visual Studio 2022 The list of changes can be found on the our bugtracker changelog. Have fun mapping!

DarkRadiant 3.1.0 is ready for download. What's new: The Texture Tool got its Free Scale operator now, allowing you to fit the texture with the mouse instead of having to type in the percentages. A lot of work went into the Declaration handling (EntityDef, Skins, Materials, Particles, etc.), which is now much more robust and more conformant to how the game is doing things (at least until TDM 2.10). The Material Editor got a plethora of issues resolved Improved the Model Export dialog and options For more things that have changed or fixed, see the list below. Windows and Mac Downloads are available on Github: https://github.com/codereader/DarkRadiant/releases/tag/3.1.0 and of course linked from the website https://www.darkradiant.net Thanks go out to all who helped testing this release! And I'll gladly repeat myself, by thanking all the awesome people who keep using DarkRadiant to create Fan Missions - they are the main reason for me to keep going. Please report any bugs or feature requests here in these forums, following these guidelines: Bugs (including steps for reproduction) can go directly on the tracker. When unsure about a bug/issue, feel free to ask. If you run into a crash, please record a crashdump: Crashdump Instructions Feature requests should be suggested (and possibly discussed) here in these forums before they may be added to the tracker. Changes since 3.0.0 Feature: DR doesn't consider wildcards in skins Feature: Reload Images eature: Texture Tool free scale Feature: Add "Show Definition" to all ResourceTreeView instances Fixed: "Reload Defs" doesn't remove entities that have been commented out Fixed: 'Reload Sounds' doesn't load new FM sound shader definitions Fixed: Reload Defs is not sufficient for reloading modelDefs Fixed: Models are reset to origin after reloadDecls Fixed: Skin Chooser doesn't preselect non-matching skins Fixed: Moving speakers deletes distance spawnargs if they're the same as in shader Fixed: Unable to select func_emitter with particle attached Fixed: Particle Editor Preview lacks vertex colours in lighting mode Fixed: Particle effects still visible when hidden via layers or filter Fixed: Entities referring to modelDefs should use the "idle" pose where possible Fixed: DR does not parse materials in def files Fixed: Modifier Hint Popup can crash when hitting Ctrl/Alt/Shift keys during shutdown Fixed: Insignificant digits displayed in Surface Inspector shift/scale/rotate values Improvement: Skin Chooser: show in which .skin file the skin is defined Improvement: Declaration Block Parsing overhauled Improvement: Python Interface for IDeclarationManagerImprovement: leave player start entity selected after placemen Improvement: Let Map Info show materials used by models Improvement: Renaming Declarations causes problems when saving it later Improvement: Light Texture Preview should display editor images if present Improvement: Remove comments about particle generator in .prt files Material Editor: New Material is locked if the default unnamed name is already in use Material Editor: allow to delete materials Material Editor: image browser's "cancel" button rewrites the material source text Material Editor: does not save manual edits to source text Material Editor: should show .mtr the material is defined in Material Editor: after "Reload Images", image previews are only updated when selecting a different material Material Editor: suboptimal preview for cubeMap materials Material Editor: preview object doesn't have smooth shading Material Editor: preview doesn't take "scale" into account in Textured Mode Material Editor: blend add stages are rendered separately in preview in lighting mode Material Editor: test frob highlight button not working Material Editor: doesn't remember settings from previous session Material Editor: image thumbnails use "scale" keyword from previously selected material Material Editor: frob highlight stage not updated correctly when changing diffusemap Material Editor: using Escape to close ignores unsaved changes Material Editor: Global Settings should be preselected Material Editor: some declaration text is lost while editing#6047: Material Editor: clicking "cancel" when selecting a light classname clears the classname field Material Editor: new materials always sorted last Material Editor: filter for image browser Material Editor: can't unlock editing on materials in "Other Materials" folder Material Editor: tries to save materials in DarkRadiant folder if no FM is installed Material Editor: allow to change preview backgroun Material Editor: preview renders shadows for noshadows materials 'Export selected as Collision Model' doesn't auto-create path folder and throws error Model exporter: manually enter export origin Model exporter: export origin choice should use a radio button Model exporter: only 1 entity's model is reloaded Model exporter: "Use entity origin as export origin" still uses map origin Model exporter: rename "Center Objects around Origin" The list of changes can be found on the our bugtracker changelog. Have fun mapping!

You can try my alternative footstep sounds package which addressed the things you described together with a lot of other footstep sounds both for player and AI if you want to. https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/17631-new-footstep-sounds/

Mods can this moved again? @Acolytesix- can you make sure you post in the beta thread instead of this one please (this one is public, the beta thread is only for logged-in forum members): https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/21822-beta-testing-high-expectations/

sure - I would only ask that you follow the thread to make sure you don't report stuff that has already been mentioned: https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/21822-beta-testing-high-expectations/