Momoderator 19 Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 Pretty sure we have a big handsaw like that already, fyi. If you're using the list at the beginning of this thread, it's long out of date. I guess it's just the sickle and the screen then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobrpggamer 15 Posted August 5, 2017 Report Share Posted August 5, 2017 Just make what you want to make, and post ingame screenshots when you're done with textures and materials. That will speak more than walls of text.Every time I think of this reply it makes me hope you are not confusing me with Mr. Trump. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Momoderator 19 Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 (edited) Here's some of my progress on the base diffuse map. No proper normal map or specular map, just baked normals + diffuse. Feedback is, as always, very appreciated. Edited August 6, 2017 by Momoderator 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RPGista 603 Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 (edited) Pretty cool texturing. You could already take it in game and see how its looking. In case you want a reference, a blender unit translates as a doom unit when exporting, and a doom unit is roughly an inch (2,5cm). So scale your model accordingly. Small models can get away with very small texture sizes. The more textures used in a map, the more it takes to load. It also bloats the game size. So try to make it as small as possible. Chances are, unless its a HUD model, you wont notice any difference for small objects like that. You will want to use tileable stock textures as much as possible as well. For the reasons stated above. But also, because it allows for different skins, even if the modeler doesnt provide them (because, chances are high that the uvmapping will work well with other tdm tileable textures, so any mapper can set them up if they want to, without having to know how to use a modelling program). Even though you can only have one material per mesh, you can have several meshes in a single model, each with their own material. So in this case, you have the wooden handle and the metal blade, they should be two meshes, with different materials. The process is the same, you need to go inside the ASE text and overwritte the path for each of the meshes' bitmap (material). PS: So as to not derail this thread, lets take this discussion to a dedicated thread of your own, just create a post for your work in the Art Assets forum and we'll take it from there. Edited August 6, 2017 by RPGista 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Momoderator 19 Posted August 6, 2017 Report Share Posted August 6, 2017 Pretty cool texturing. You could already take it in game and see how its looking. In case you want a reference, a blender unit translates as a doom unit when exporting, and a doom unit is roughly an inch (2,5cm). So scale your model accordingly. Small models can get away with very small texture sizes. The more textures used in a map, the more it takes to load. It also bloats the game size. So try to make it as small as possible. Chances are, unless its a HUD model, you wont notice any difference for small objects like that. You will want to use tileable stock textures as much as possible as well. For the reasons stated above. But also, because it allows for different skins, even if the modeler doesnt provide them (because, chances are high that the uvmapping will work well with other tdm tileable textures, so any mapper can set them up if they want to, without having to know how to use a modelling program). Even though you can only have one material per mesh, you can have several meshes in a single model, each with their own material. So in this case, you have the wooden handle and the metal blade, they should be two meshes, with different materials. The process is the same, you need to go inside the ASE text and overwritte the path for each of the meshes' bitmap (material). PS: So as to not derail this thread, lets take this discussion to a dedicated thread of your own, just create a post for your work in the Art Assets forum and we'll take it from there.Done! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
grayman 2969 Posted September 28, 2017 Report Share Posted September 28, 2017 To any modelers tracking this thread ... I'd like to have a model for a security camera. Requirements: 1 - Steampunk (try to stay away from something that looks like a box camera from the early days of photography) 2 - Three models: a - the camera itself, with its origin at the point of rotation b - a wall mounting bracket with arms that attach to the top and bottom of the camera c - a ceiling mounting bracket with a shaft that descends down and through the camera, popping out at the bottom. The camera will use either the wall or the ceiling bracket depending on how it's used. 3 - The camera should (obviously) have a lens. This can be an extended lens or simply a small lens tight against the camera body. 4 - The camera should have a light. We should be able (through re-skinning) to turn the light lens on and off. This light will cast a spotlight forward from the camera and can be turned on/off by the player. 5 - (Optional) A red/green indicator light. Toggled by re-skinning. Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bikerdude 3740 Posted September 28, 2017 Report Share Posted September 28, 2017 I made one in DR a while ago, its similar in style to the one in the original theif games - but different enough to not infringe IP. The base model is currently brush and patch based, so I assume you would you like me to make into a .ASE model with skins..? I can upload it here when I get home. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
grayman 2969 Posted September 28, 2017 Report Share Posted September 28, 2017 Sure, thanks. I'll see how it fits Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bikerdude 3740 Posted September 28, 2017 Report Share Posted September 28, 2017 Sure, thanks. I'll see how it fitsHer yer go -bkd_security_cam.zip.txt 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
grayman 2969 Posted September 29, 2017 Report Share Posted September 29, 2017 Ok, that's a good start. If no one else comes forward, I might enhance your camera to cover the requirements list. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RPGista 603 Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 How urgent is this my friend? I would like to help, but I will probably only have time to get started by the end of the month. Does that work for you? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
grayman 2969 Posted October 3, 2017 Report Share Posted October 3, 2017 I'm updating the security camera for TDM as part of 2.06, and 2.06 freeze is tomorrow. I've created a placeholder model that's good enough for 2.06. I'll be writing a wiki page on how to use the new camera, and the model will appear in the test map and screenshots. If you have time during 2.06 beta to create a more suitable model, that would be great. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Epifire 784 Posted October 16, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 To any modelers tracking this thread ... I'd like to have a model for a security camera. Being a modeler and all I should probably check this a lot more. So I don't know if anyone wanted a T2 kinda camera? But that's sorta what I made and now that I think about it the face took on an Overseer vibe. Yay, nay? Lemme know thoughts cause if it's acceptable I wanna proceed and finish the game resolution with textures tomorrow. 5 Quote You need a model? Epi does you a model. Toss me a PM I promise I don't bite. Link to post Share on other sites
grayman 2969 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Looks good. Spotlight? Wall model? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bikerdude 3740 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Very nice model, but if I remember the T2 models were more robot like face-wise http://thief.wikia.com/wiki/Watcher?file=SecureCam.jpg 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Springheel 4630 Posted October 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 The less ours looks like T2 ones, the better. 1 Quote TDM Missions: A Score to Settle * A Reputation to Uphold * A New Job * A Matter of Hours Video Series: Springheel's Modules * Speedbuild Challenge * New Mappers Workshop * Building Traps Link to post Share on other sites
nbohr1more 2096 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 I can't help but love it ...but the statues and busts in all the existing maps have a decidedly Renaissance \ Neo-Classical \ Greco-Roman look.Maybe a skin that looks a little less "pixar superhero".Not that I'd mind if this were the final design at all. 1 Quote Please visit TDM's IndieDB site and help promote the mod: http://www.indiedb.com/mods/the-dark-mod (Yeah, shameless promotion... but traffic is traffic folks...) Link to post Share on other sites
Bikerdude 3740 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Maybe a skin that looks a little less "pixar superhero".That was the point I was trying to make, not that it needs to or should look like the T2 model. And on the subject of the T2 model, it was only used by the Hammerites. Correct if I am wrong but aren't the builders in TDM more like the builders in T1/2 than the Mechanists? So a face shaped camera dosent quite gel with the TDM universe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Epifire 784 Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Looks good. Spotlight? Wall model? The spotlight is the other (large) eye piece. Also I actually gave that wall model some thought and realized it would have to have a mount on to something above (small platform) in order for that head version to work. I'm willing to make a different (non-head based) version that should remedy the problem. I can still make both viable, but if anybody wants the metal-head version included speak up now. Cause I really don't wanna include it if nobody wants to use it. Alright, I just got the basic forms in but I wanna know what people think of a circular camera? You can see how we've got the wall version pretty easy in this design as well. If it's alright with everybody I'd like to make both camera versions in a set. One from the weird science take and the other from the strictly practical role. 3 Quote You need a model? Epi does you a model. Toss me a PM I promise I don't bite. Link to post Share on other sites
Obsttorte 1499 Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 I like the second version a bit more. I agree with Springheel that we should avoid any similarities to the cameras used in T2. Personally I would prefer the camera to look a bit more blocky and more "open", meaning that it would be nice if you could partially see the inside with its gears. 1 Quote FM's: Builder Roads, Old Habits, Old Habits Rebuild WIP's: Several. Although after playing Thief 4 I really wanna make a city mission. Mapping and Scripting: Apples and Peaches Sculptris Models and Tutorials: Obsttortes Models My wiki articles: Obstipedia Texture Blending in DR: DR ASE Blend Exporter Link to post Share on other sites
Bikerdude 3740 Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 I like the second version a bit more. I agree with Springheel that we should avoid any similarities to the cameras used in T2.Personally I would prefer the camera to look a bit more blocky and more "open", meaning that it would be nice if you could partially see the inside with its gears.+1, I love the look of the new camera, very lore friendly imho.Now thats not a bad idea.@Epi your very fast and clean when making your models, very impressive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
grayman 2969 Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Since the camera can be killed, we need a broken model too. This can just show damage and a skin change Quote Link to post Share on other sites
grayman 2969 Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 The current camera code is written so that the camera points horizontally. I will need to change that if folks want the camera to point down like this model. Cant do this for probably a week; in Hospital atm. The camera emits movement and alarm sounds so a speaker on the side would be nice Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Destined 615 Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Oh, hope it's nothing serious. Get well soon! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Obsttorte 1499 Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 Get well soon! Quote FM's: Builder Roads, Old Habits, Old Habits Rebuild WIP's: Several. Although after playing Thief 4 I really wanna make a city mission. Mapping and Scripting: Apples and Peaches Sculptris Models and Tutorials: Obsttortes Models My wiki articles: Obstipedia Texture Blending in DR: DR ASE Blend Exporter Link to post Share on other sites
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