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#151 duzenko

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Posted 24 February 2019 - 02:46 AM

The forum mods are (I was pretty sure this was posted somewhere, but I can't find it atm):

 

Greebo

Grayman

Melan

New Horizon

stgatilov

taaaki (mostly high level maintenance)

and myself

 

A few additional people have mod power in particular forums.
 

 

Ah yes, Aidakeeley/Blueskybullet/etc (I forget some of the other aliases he used).  One of the few other people we have ever banned. 

How many admin votes does it take to lift the ban (theoretically)?

Is it possible for an individual user to be restricted to some forums but remain blocked at others?



#152 Judith

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Posted 24 February 2019 - 05:43 AM

FYI Biker has viewing access to the forums, he asked me about one thing I posted, after he was banned (via Discord).

#153 Abusimplea

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Posted 24 February 2019 - 09:19 PM

FYI Biker has viewing access to the forums, he asked me about one thing I posted, after he was banned (via Discord).

Everyone has read access to all public forums except Betatesting (that may have historic reasons) as they are visible and readable when not logged in.



#154 OrbWeaver

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Posted 25 February 2019 - 04:53 AM

Anyone who thinks these forums have over-zealous moderators needs to spend more time on other sites.

 

People very, very rarely get banned from these forums. Even people who have told moderators to "fuck off" have not been banned.

 

On Twitter or Facebook you can lose your account just because the Silicon Valley media bubble doesn't like your political opinions.


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#155 Destined

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Posted 25 February 2019 - 07:37 AM

As stated before, Bikderdude requested to be banned himself, so this is definitely not a case of overzealous moderators. And as also stated before, he still has reading access and is in contact with a couple of forum members through other means. So I believe, that if/when he feels ready, he himself can and will approach the moderators of the forums to lift the ban. Up until that time, it is most likely best to give him the time and space he needs. It is not necessary to discuss lifting the ban, if he himself has no interest that it is done.



#156 Judith

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Posted 25 February 2019 - 07:56 AM

Everyone has read access to all public forums except Betatesting (that may have historic reasons) as they are visible and readable when not logged in.

 

No access to beta testing forums of things like messaging functionality is okay IMO. That ensures situations like taking over other people's WIP maps or layouts won't happen that easily.



#157 Anderson

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Posted 25 February 2019 - 10:34 AM

 

 

On Twitter or Facebook you can lose your account just because the Silicon Valley media bubble doesn't like your political opinions.

 

When Facebook banned some Moldovan accounts by public servants working for the government party, I definitely would not complain, even though their ads in the campaign were equally toxic to the other parties. 

 

https://www.reuters....n-idUSKCN1Q312B

 

However this is balanced and proportionate in comparison to the toxic censorship employed by Russian social networks like Odnoklasniki or Vkontakte, which leads to many Russians who worry about their safety to use Telegram.


Edited by Anderson, 26 February 2019 - 09:08 AM.

 "I really perceive that vanity about which most men merely prate — the vanity of the human or temporal life. I live continually in a reverie of the future. I have no faith in human perfectibility. I think that human exertion will have no appreciable effect upon humanity. Man is now only more active — not more happy — nor more wise, than he was 6000 years ago. The result will never vary — and to suppose that it will, is to suppose that the foregone man has lived in vain — that the foregone time is but the rudiment of the future — that the myriads who have perished have not been upon equal footing with ourselves — nor are we with our posterity. I cannot agree to lose sight of man the individual, in man the mass."...

 

 

- 2 July 1844 letter to James Russell Lowell from Edgar Allan Poe.

 


#158 SeriousToni

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Posted 25 February 2019 - 02:28 PM

I was happy to see the new release of the game. My dearest congratulations on this to the devs. :) Still I was shocked what happened to biker, though I don't know all the back story of this, so I respect your choice. But I am glad to hear that he's well, thank you Stifu. :)


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#159 OrbWeaver

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Posted 25 February 2019 - 03:46 PM

When Facebook banned some Moldovan accounts by public servants working for the government party, I definitely would not complain, even though their ads in the campaign were equally toxic to the other parties. 

 

However this is balanced and proportionate in comparisson to the toxic censorship employed by Russian social networks like Odnoklasniki or Vkontakte, which leads to many Russians who worry about their safety to use Telegram.

 

I was thinking more along the lines of Facebook's censorship of ordinary users, rather than bans on political advertising, which tends to follow different rules (for example in the UK almost all political advertising is banned, outside of identified "party political broadcasts" which happen around election time).

 

But you're right, none of it compares to the draconian censorship imposed by governments like Russia, even if some of the governments of Western Europe seem to be aiming to emulate them as much as possible.


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#160 chakkman

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Posted 25 February 2019 - 04:50 PM

You can easily turn that around though, and doubt the censorship of "hate" messages on the net as well, which almost every time equals to right-wing messages, which are getting censored, mostly just for the content of the message.

 

I think it mostly bows down to your definition of freedom of speech. Many Lefties who act and feel so democratic, and gloat over their "freedom" claim are actually very anti democratic, and reluctant to other's opinions.

 

Anyway, forums are privately run sites, and the rules are others. Many forums even ban political discussions entirely (which i consder a good thing... there never has been a worthy political discussion on the net. The threshold to act like you would never do in real life is simply too low). I think this forum in general benefits from the matureness of its members. I really have never seen anything close to the tumult i have witnessed on other boards. Kudos. :)


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#161 teh_saccade

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Posted 25 February 2019 - 09:18 PM

My wife once said, "forums ruin families", back when markus persson was still markus persson and trying to get attention for his dwarf fortress lego game.

I don't think she meant family in the literal sense, but I think she had a very public falling out with her mum on a cake decorating forum over a recipe for earl grey cupcakes some time in 2007.

This thread is unravelling in all directions - are people arguing for the sake of it now? Cos I want in on that.

No - it isn't. Facebook is great and we should all bow before big brother and attempt alliteration at all adjuncts.


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