Fan Mission: Cleaning Up the Neighbourhood by some1stoleit,bikerdude (2019/02/19)

[lowenz 602]

but as I tried to roast the pagan I found in one of the rooms and nothing happened (I knocked him out, threw him out on the street from the window and stuffed him into the brazier nearby to roast for his crimes - without success, so I had to kill him with the sword),

Let's call call him a TOUGHER-TAFFER

Edited April 10, 2019 by lowenz

[Tafferboy 7]

I have been playing mission I have noticed a lot of mappers it seems forget to add a damage entity in or above the fire - maybe a file a bug-tracker to get a damage sim added to all fire entities for 2.08...

Edited April 11, 2019 by Tafferboy

[grayman 2969]

Won't be done. Design decision long ago against this to not hurt ai walking through fires.

[Thieving Barbarian 14]

Wont be done. Design decision long ago against this to not hurt ai walking through fires.

 

Since the AI can already find its way around any other obstacles, what's preventing fire objects from being treated like any other objects - the AI would simply not walk through a fire and would find a way around it? Or are the fire entities different from other types of object, let's say a crate for example (being light emitters or whatever), so that it's invisible to the AI pathfinder? I've been playing a lot of Thief Gold lately, and there the AI would not step into a fire voluntarily (though I did throw a few unconscious apebeasts into one), and that game's pathfinder routines are ancient - the object model was probably completely different, though.

 

As it currently is, the player can use lit torches or lamps to climb up onto, or go inside a lit fireplace with impunity - if the system relies on the mapper placing a damage entity into a fire (for example, to hide the use of that old Thief staple of a secret passage hidden in a fireplace), then it will be inconsistent across maps - in some maps fires do nothing, but in maps where they are somehow important, it would do damage and then tip off the player that there's something important enough there to make the mapper place a damage entity there (if the system indeed works like that).

[grayman 2969]

A mapper can place monster_clip over the fire to keep AI from walking through it. If the fire isn't substantial enough to make the player think the AI would be hurt walking through it, m_c can be skipped.

[Hagatha 2]

This is a beautiful mission.

 

I'm stuck, though.

Above the bar, there is a building with red lights and pipes, which I assume I can get to. Trouble is, I can't. I've tried climbing up the round balcony to get onto the roof to get to the rope, but after about 50 tries, I've given up jumping over to the rope. The corner of the building above the rope blocks me and I end up falling without grabbing the rope, or even getting close to it. Very frustrating. Any help here would be appreciated.

 

[acolyte6 24]

Can someone please give me a true spoiler on how to get into the dude's bedroom? The closet next door has a chain in the ceiling that don't go no where, the

pipes outside don't go there & Rufus's so called spare key don't work either.

[Bienie 417]

1 hour ago, acolyte6 said:

Can someone please give me a true spoiler on how to get into the dude's bedroom? The closet next door has a chain in the ceiling that don't go no where, the

pipes outside don't go there & Rufus's so called spare key don't work either.

If I recall you have to enter through the window from the outside. There's a little alley with some stairs down to were the bum sleeps, above this alleyway is a series of pipes you can climb. From there you can jump across the alley and access the bedroom and assassinate him.

[MirceaKitsune 253]

Another FM that quickly became one of my favorites. Lots of detail in both the mapping as well as the story, you could feel involved while playing this. I like that it broke the "don't make combat obligatory" rule, it's rare to see an assassination mission and it added a bit of diversity.

[V-Man339 171]

 

Edited November 1, 2020 by V-Man339