More [Oil] Lamps & Lanterns

[Melchior]

There is exactly one - quite overused Wall mounted Oil lamp (in bronze and Rusty bronze oooh). Its an indoor lamp fixture, used outdoors and as its a 'fancy' design - often in areas of lower-economic means too. It just looks 'wrong' in many outdoor places.

While I'd believe there is a Guild / Utility monopoly that mandates all same-age electric lamp fixtures to be exactly the 'same'...Mass-produced metal things can be hammered out by any Half-Ape Tinsmith with Metal-Shears and a Hammer, 3 an hour.

Just look at these random examples;

These are a mixed assortment of 'Whale' Oil , Coal-Oil & Kerosene;  Lanterns. They work mostly how you'd expect - except the outdoor models ARE weather-proof, meaning the glass doors need to be open to be affected by water arrows / snuffed-out...

Also this; a Gimbal equipped Oil-lamp, could present quite the challenge as even IF it gets knocked over / tips - it stays burning!

[chakkman]

13 minutes ago, Melchior said:

I like the last two of those (bottom right). Especially the second last. Would work nicely in TDM, IMO.

Edited November 16, 2023 by chakkman

[jaxa]

LAMP OIL? ROPE ARROWS? MINES? YOU WANT IT? IT'S YOURS MY FRIEND

Edited November 17, 2023 by jaxa

[Zerg Rush]

[datiswous]

11 hours ago, Melchior said:

There is exactly one - quite overused Wall mounted Oil lamp (in bronze and Rusty bronze oooh). Its an indoor lamp fixture, used outdoors and as its a 'fancy' design - often in areas of lower-economic means too. It just looks 'wrong' in many outdoor places.

So you ask more lamps to be included in core assets and then hope mission authors will try to use them?

 

I would like to see multiple base models that can be coupled together to create different prefabs.

Edited November 17, 2023 by datiswous

[Amadeus]

Let's not forget about dragofer's wonderful oil lamps used in Down by the Riverside, Perilous Refuge, and many others

 

Edited November 17, 2023 by Amadeus

[Dragofer]

We have a whole folder of oil lamps in core assets since 2020 or so - for desks, walls, ceilings and freestranding. Also check out the vintage lamps.

[Melchior]

Yes, I left it a little ambiguous as to what I meant; in that Both there is 1 particular model over-used AND that there are more lamp/lantern options available now.  (more and some form of Modular-lamp would be neater)

 

On 11/16/2023 at 6:24 PM, chakkman said:

I like the last two of those (bottom right). Especially the second last. Would work nicely in TDM, IMO.

I think that is a 'Naval / Marine' "Den Haan Holland" brand lamp; for yacht use...and apparently STILL-MADE (today). [or its not and its a 'Tung Woo' from the late 19th century, Marine/Ship wall-lamp...its hard to tell them apart]

Edited November 17, 2023 by Melchior
clarity

[datiswous]

On 11/17/2023 at 7:54 PM, Dragofer said:

We have a whole folder of oil lamps in core assets since 2020 or so - for desks, walls, ceilings and freestranding. Also check out the vintage lamps.

I think they're all fancy though.

[Melchior]

Exactly, just need some  'economy' / 'industrial' / 'utilitarian' type (indoor) wall oil lamp. Perhaps different texture options ; shiny/new and worn/corroded (broken glass optional?). Also a zillion 'dead-flame' type lanterns out there too have wall-mount & handles...

[Amadeus]

One thing you could try, apart from taking the time to make new models to fit your intended style, is to make skins to replace the materials of the already-existing oil lamps.

Edited November 22, 2023 by Amadeus

[datiswous]

I think it's the style that is luxurious, not (only) the texture, if I remember correctly.

Edited November 22, 2023 by datiswous

[Melchior]

Also, everyone forgets about the Pagans/Wildlings; they'd need primitive lights (candles being mass-produced & 'modern') -

17th~18th century Scottish Highland seems like a close technological match...

[datiswous]

I haven't looked into importing (and/or making) models and texturing (uv-mapping, skins) enough. The (wiki) docs seem very old and complicated.

Edited December 8, 2023 by datiswous

[Dragofer]

How about some timeless and good looking danish designs, like the PH Artichoke lamp and the PH 5:

 

[taffernicus]

i don't see pierced tin lantern anywhere in TDM. I think it can coexist with current TDM's theme. This type of lantern don't amplify light but it casts beautiful lighting patterns

Edited January 7, 2024 by taffernicus

[Taquito]

On 11/22/2023 at 3:59 PM, Amadeus said:

One thing you could try, apart from taking the time to make new models to fit your intended style, is to make skins to replace the materials of the already-existing oil lamps.

 Any Tutorials about this topic in particular? I'm interested in learning this.

[Amadeus]

Yeah, you can start here: https://wiki.thedarkmod.com/index.php?title=Creating_Multiple_Skins_For_A_Model

You can make a custom skin for just about every model in TDM. DR also now has a skin editor which makes this process a bit easier

[Melchior]

Even _I_ missed the Punched Tin Lantern(s) ; apparently quite common & inexpensive 'back in the day'...seems a match for TDM.

 

 

(Too bad I don't know Blender & texturing tools, and/or DarkRadiant enough to make one of those...TODO?)