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Welcome to the forums Ansome! And congrats on making it to beta phase!

Yeah it would be cool to see some more detailed statistics and it’s a shame they aren’t really captured. Since we are talking about fan mission platforms, where players also make the content for the game, I feel like the best thing we’ve got is you can look at the number of content releases for the games. Keep in mind the graph counts campaigns as single missions - so for example NHAT and TBP both count as 1 mission. A good year for TDM has has approaching maybe 50% - mostly we’re 25-30%. https://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152494 You could also look at the number of ratings thief missions get on https://www.thiefguild.com/ vs TDM ones, but that is pretty iffy in that you could chalk that up to more awareness of the site in the thief community than TDM Out of curiosity is there a reason a thief player can’t be a new player? I kind of think a player is a player and new players would be ones who are playing the dark mod who weren't? Is there disagreement the base of players most likely to pick up the game are fans of the thief games? They are certainly the most fruitful place to find feedback on the game beyond the sphere of this forum that I have seen. When we were trying to finish up SLL there was a lot of discussion on the forums about how long it had been since there was a release for the game. I am thankful that the stats show at least some stability over the years in terms of releases for TDM, but the trend for all of the games is decline. Not doing anything is a valid response if that’s what the devs want to do - it is not possible to provide evidence that any effort will slow that inertia. As a player and content maker I would just prefer trying to find feedback where it is offered from players who were willing to try the game but ultimately could not engage with it and see if there is anything that can be done within reason to ease them into the game. The game has a lot to offer imo. All those players are potential contributors - contributions in turn attract players - it’d be nice to see the cycle go on as long as it can.

Here's the DR 2.14.0pre2 build for every interested mapper to test. This release focused on DarkRadiant's texturing abilities, the Texture Tool and some of the Surface Inspector algorithms have been completely rewritten. A new model importer UI has been added with the ability to convert FBX models into a format compatible to the game (it can also convert LWO, ASE and OBJ models). The EntityInspector can now deal with more than one selected entities, showing the shared key values in the list. Copy/Paste Textures across angled faces: Texture Tool Rotate Tool (use "R" hotkey to switch) Surface Inspector Harmonise Scale / Linked Scaling Surface Inspector Normalise EntityInspector Multi-Selection Support For more things that have changed or fixed, see the list below. Download Windows Portable x64: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-wqcqnlz8KOYpts-ap8x313yVaiQm87l/view?usp=sharing Download Windows Installer x64: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-pSE-517B7Y-T3-VonNv4zLzUMgr-fXt/view?usp=sharing Linux folks need to compile this stuff from source, instructions for various distributions are on the wiki. If you happen to run into a crash, please record a crashdump: How to record a crashdump Changes since 2.13.0 can be seen on the Bugtracker changelog, here's the summary: #5746: Feature: Texture Tool Improvements #5776: Feature: Texture Tool: Add Manipulation Panel to shift/scale/rotate selection #5613: Feature: Show shared keyvalues when multiple entities are selected #5738: Feature: Texture Browser Filter: match multiple words (using 'AND' logic) #5728: Feature: Skin Chooser shows materials of the model #5774: Feature: Surface Inspector: Add buttons to harmonise Horizontal and Vertical scale values #5771: Feature: Improved pasting textures to angled faces sharing an edge #5753: Feature: XY view zoom is centered at cursor #5748: Feature: Texture Tool: Constrain operations to axes by holding down Shift #5128: Feature: Texture Tools: rotate function #5731: Feature: Texture Tool: UI contrast #5721: Feature: Model Conversion UI #5722: Feature: Add FBX model importer #5712: Feature: add IQM format support into lib/picomodel #5705: Improvement: "Replace Selection with exported Model" preserves spawnargs #5659: Improvement: automatically reload exported models #5745: Improvement: Search function: don't start searching while still typing #5791: Improvement: MediaBrowser toolbar: clear filter text when texture is selected through MMB or Texture Browser #5788: Improvement: Merge "Create player start" and "Move player start" options #5785: Improvement: Patch Texture Rotation should take aspect ratio into account #5733: Improvement: Texture Tool: use aspect ratio of material #5740: Improvement: Step-rotating textures through the Surface Inspector should be using the center as pivot #5775: Improvement: Surface Inspector: Option to change horizontal and vertical scale values proportionally #5633: Improvement: Apply textures to surfaces using "normalized" scaling. #5547: Improvement: Normalise button brings texture coordinates closer to 0,0 #2272: Improvement: Prevent Texture Tool "face jump" on rescaling textures #5735: Improvement: Move modifier hints out of the status bar #5767: Improvement: Flip Texture: Prevent huge face UV coordinate translations #5752: Improvement: Double click on list elements should auto-close dialogs #5749: Improvement: Texture Tool: Select items by clicking the UV space they cover #5750: Improvement: Texture Tool: Grid lines are getting too dense when zooming out a lot #5732: Improvement: Texture Tool: intercept keystrokes for grid resizing & snap to grid #5734: Tweak: Surface Inspector vertical shift / vertical scale arrows #5706: Tweak: Surface Inspector's minimum width is too large #5741: Improvement: Model Exporter: warn if Output Format and extension in File Path don't match #5711: Improvement: Change Quake3 map exporter to write "legacy" brush syntax #5710: Fixed: Q3 Legacy BrushDef parser sometime produce some wrong texture rotation #5687: Fixed: "Replace Selection with exported Model" assigns result to Default layer #5408: Fixed: All scene graphs connect to the same undo system, causing interference #5790: Fixed: Remove Floating Layout #5783: Fixed: EntityInspector allows to set an entity's name to an empty value #5723: Fixed: modelDefs folder starts expanded after changing selection #5736: Fixed: Particle Editor: wireframe does not render #4584: Fixed: Drag-select while in texture tool window gets stuck. #5770: Fixed: Some brushes change shape or disappear when rotated or duplicated #5747: Fixed: Texture Tool: drag operation doesn't capture the mouse #5754: Fixed: Ctrl-S does not work when focus is on inputs #5729: Fixed: Autosave filename unhelpfully overwrites 'save copy as' filename #5725: Fixed: Merge Maps: can't hide changed entities/primitives #5708: Fixed: Merge Maps: can't center orthoview/camera on changed entities #5709: Fixed: Merge Maps UI remains if DR is closed while a merge is in progress #5707: Fixed: Merge Maps: "Details" text doesn't use full width of window #5704: Fixed: Brushes colour schemes not saving #5702: Fixed: Fit Texture fields do not allow values below 1.0 #5713: Fixed: PatchDefExporter: do not write trailing white space after shader name #5717: Fixed: LWO2 Model Exporter doesn't write vertex colours #5588: Coding: Separate UI-related and core module interface headers #5780: Coding: Remove IDialogManager references from Map module #5778: Coding: Solution / Build Dependencies Update Changes since 2.14.0pre1 #5810: Fixed: Objective components not correctly renumbered after removing a component #5801: Fixed: Applying a skin to a model entity no longer works under 2.14pre1 #5813: Fixed: Spawnarg types and tooltips not reliably inherited in entityDefs #5814: Feature: Spawnarg type icon not shown for inherited properties #5808: Fixed: Crash when saving map or prefab without a file extension #5807: Fixed: Texture Tool crashes when creating a new brush #5797: Fixed: "Texture tool" grid cannot decrease under 1 #5799: Fixed: Texture Tool: dragged vertices snap to grid even though it's switched off #5800: Fixed: Sound chooser not pre-selecting the inherited value of snd_* keys of an entity #5794: Fixed: User Guide (Local) doesn't work #5792: XY View zooming behaviour improved (if not fixed) Refresh icons for axis flip buttons Separate SurfaceInspector scale rows from other property rows Restore GL_LINEAR_MIPMAP_LINEAR texture filtering Thanks for testing, as always!

Definitely an improvement, @Geep I am sure you can still borrow a few pixels here an there and let the widget breathe a little.

Haven't tried 2.12 yet but I want to ask,any work done on ambient occlusion? I have found it to improve the looks of many missions but it didn't work well always. For example when changing your view some of the fixed shadows in the corners vanish. edit: Ok I tried the 2.12 latest version and I liked the leaning more than the previous versions also deactivating the mantle roll feels like an improvement for me. Movement is closer to the first two originals of the series. Also is there a way to keep settings unchanged when installing a new version? Everything resets even if i tick the box to keep the original file up on installation.

The problem with (the original and) v4 is this, and there is little we room for improvement unless we go back to the drawing board

@snatcher can’t say I prefer yellow or the grey - but I will say all these mockups I have seen from you are a definite improvement over the placeholder art - very nice work! To everyone involved this is a very cool feature.

New script for mappers: my flavour of a fog density fading script. To add this to your FM, add the line "thread FogIntensityLoop();" to your map's void main() function (see the example in fogfade.script) and set "fog_fade" "1" on each foglight to enable script control of it. Set "fog_intensity_multiplier" on each info_location entity to change how thick the fog is in that location (practically speaking it's a multiplier for visibility distance). Lastly, "fog_fade_speed" on each foglight determines how quickly it will change its density. The speed scales with the current value of shaderParm3, using shaderParm3 = 1000 as a baseline. So i.e. if shaderParm is currently at 1/10th of 1000, then fade speed will be 1/10th as fast. Differences to Obsttorte's script: https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/14394-apples-and-peaches-obsttortes-mapping-and-scripting-thread/&do=findComment&comment=310436 my script uses fog lights you created, rather than creating one for you. Obsttorte's script will delete the foglight if entering a fogfree zone and recreate it later more than one fog light can be controlled (however, no per-fog-light level of control) adding this to the map requires adding a line to your void main() script, rather than adding an info_locations_settings entity with a custom scriptobject spawnarg in my script, mappers set a multiplier of fog visibility distance (shaderParm3), while in Obsttorte's script a "fog_density" spawnarg is used as an alternative to shaderParm3 smaller and less compactly written script fogfade.scriptfogfade.map

The devs didn't title this thread, and @datiswous said they're attempting to mislead people by using Russell's name and a retro style to make it resemble Thief, which is cynical. I grew up on forums like I'm sure anyone who likes a game from '98 did. I actually left the Discord immediately after joining it because it was more off-topic doom-posting than anything relevant to the mod. I thought the forums might be better, but it's mostly just grown men yelling at clouds and telling strangers how mature they are, and a few brave souls actually developing anything. Depressing place, I'll just stick to enjoying new missions every 6 months without an account.

True, but, 1. this thread is called "Western stealth FPS with Stephen Russell", and, 2. nothing you said changes anything for me. The gameplay still doesn't look like something I'd enjoy. And, if you really think this forum is cynical, then you don't visit forums much. Actually, the majority of the users are are pretty mature, unlike in other forums.

DarkRadiant 3.0.0 is ready for download. It took a while, but DarkRadiant 3.0.0 is finally available. Most of the time has been spent on improving DarkRadiant's renderer, which now features shadow mapping support of up to 6 lights. It's still not matching the engine's output (especially in terms of performance), but it should be faster and much more helpful than it was before. The effort that has been put into the renderer rewrite plus the bigger changes in the previous few releases make the jump to the next major version feel more than justified. Besides of that, a lot of non-renderer issues have been resolved in this release too, next to some fine usability improvements. For more things that have changed or fixed, see the list below. Windows and Mac Downloads are available on Github: https://github.com/codereader/DarkRadiant/releases/tag/3.0.0 and of course linked from the website https://www.darkradiant.net Thanks go out to all who helped testing this release! And I'll gladly repeat myself, by thanking all the awesome people who keep using DarkRadiant to create Fan Missions - they are the main reason for me to keep going. Please report any bugs or feature requests here in these forums, following these guidelines: Bugs (including steps for reproduction) can go directly on the tracker. When unsure about a bug/issue, feel free to ask. If you run into a crash, please record a crashdump: Crashdump Instructions Feature requests should be suggested (and possibly discussed) here in these forums before they may be added to the tracker. Changes since 2.14.0 Feature: Realtime shadow mode Feature: Allow way to hide some entities in Create Entity list Feature: MD5 Animation Viewer: show current frame & total frames Feature: MD5 Animation Viewer: jump to frame Feature: DarkRadiant warns about missing .darkradiant file on load Feature: Ability to center 3D camera on selected entity Feature: Cut functionality to complement copy and paste Feature: Save user settings by application version Fixed: Free Rotation not working anymore, can only rotate along 3 axes Fixed: DR crash with combination of mouse buttons pressed Fixed: Git Sync Exception: too many redirects or authentication replays Fixed: Missing brushes when opening alphalabs1 from vanilla Doom 3 PK4s Fixed: Selected Skin not showing in ModelSelector Fixed: Reload Defs takes longer every time Fixed: ForceShadows materials are not casting shadows Fixed: Objective GUI doesn't display properly in some places Fixed: Crash on loading certain maps Fixed: Vertex colours do not show on models in lighting mode Fixed: Entity inspector shows inherited spawnargs of previous selection Fixed: DR overwrite order for defs is different from TDM's Fixed: X/Y and Camera View bindings don't save properly Fixed: Material Preview rendering Fixed: "Replace Selection with exported Model" sets classname to "func_static". Fixed: Map -> Edit Package Info (darkmod.txt)... crashes DarkRadiant Fixed: Rotating a func_static result to random stretch textures Fixed: DR crashes when syncing with remote Git repository Fixed: Switching visibility of Github repo from public to private causes crash Fixed: Dockable window layout doesn't save new floating XY views Fixed: "Choose skin..." button on custom model spawnargs shows skins for main model spawnarg Fixed: Entity inspector considers inherited colors black Fixed: ReloadDefs moves def_attached light crystals to entity origin Fixed: Option to filter skins out of search results in the Choose Model dialogue Fixed: .lin files can't be opened if different case than .map name Fixed: Model chooser radio box selection issue Fixed: Changing multiple lights between omni/projected resets colours to black Improvement: Allow absolute paths for snapshots Improvement: Light diamonds and Speaker radii are transparent Improvement: Unify Declaration Parsers Improvement: Add "Create Particle" to right-click orthoview drop-down menu Improvement: Revisit Interaction Shader to get closer to the TDM looks Improvement: Entity inspector should recognise spawnargs beginning with "sprS_" as def spawnargs Improvement: UI for worldspawn-to-entity conversion Improvement: classname field should always be read-only, to force use of the "Choose entity class" button Coding: Update solution and build dependencies to Visual Studio 2022 The list of changes can be found on the our bugtracker changelog. Have fun mapping!

We didn't make the holidays (such a busy time of year) so here's a New Year's gift, an unusual little mission. Window of Opportunity Recover an item for a regretful trader out in a wilderness setting, and discover more! Available within the in-game mission downloader or: Download: http://www.thedarkmo...ndetails/?id=79 Alternative: https://drive.google...WTMzQXZtMVFBSG8 Some unorthodox gameplay on regular/ghost difficulties. (Arachnophobes might prefer short mode...) Please expect to need your lantern in regular and ghost modes! Short ("easy") mode is a smaller map, so if you are looking for areas others reference below, or 100% of the loot, you'll need to play on another mode. I wanted to create my first mission before I became influenced by too many others' ideas, and limited myself to what has been done before. As such, this mission is not set in a city/town, and has some features that are likely to be provocative. There's a section some really like, which others don't, either way I kept it short to not last too long. That being said, I hope you do find it fun! :-) Special thanks to those who provided valuable testing and feedback: Goldwell, Kyyrma, plotzzz, 161803398874989, PPoe & Bikerdude (who also contributed a sound). (Please remember spoiler tags to not expose things meant to be discovered by playing.) Like so: [spoiler]secrets[/spoiler] If you are having trouble finding the main objective, here's what to pay attention to in the mission for hints: There is a spot it's possible to get stuck on the ground in the corner by the cliff/rockfall where there's a rope laying on the ground, please take care if you poke around there!

With TDM 2.12, after the credits finished, the "Mission Complete" screen did not display. I found that the screen was black and I could hear my footsteps when I tried to move around. I think the reason for the mission not completing successfully was that the "Do not kill or harm allies" objective was never marked as "1 = STATE_COMPLETE" instead it was left as "0 = STATE_INCOMPLETE". Note, I didn't use noclip throughout the mission. Same as: https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/18054-fan-mission-the-accountant-2-new-in-town-by-goldwell-20160509/&do=findComment&comment=458491

How about using TDM automation framework (and maybe pcem/qemu)? More info see: https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/19828-automation-features-and-discussion/

Beta 11 Fix finished-on state auto-update was unreliable Slighty improve scanner title/author detect Tags are now named some whatever regular-version-looking thing to force GitHub to put the newest at the top

DarkRadiant 3.1.0 is ready for download. What's new: The Texture Tool got its Free Scale operator now, allowing you to fit the texture with the mouse instead of having to type in the percentages. A lot of work went into the Declaration handling (EntityDef, Skins, Materials, Particles, etc.), which is now much more robust and more conformant to how the game is doing things (at least until TDM 2.10). The Material Editor got a plethora of issues resolved Improved the Model Export dialog and options For more things that have changed or fixed, see the list below. Windows and Mac Downloads are available on Github: https://github.com/codereader/DarkRadiant/releases/tag/3.1.0 and of course linked from the website https://www.darkradiant.net Thanks go out to all who helped testing this release! And I'll gladly repeat myself, by thanking all the awesome people who keep using DarkRadiant to create Fan Missions - they are the main reason for me to keep going. Please report any bugs or feature requests here in these forums, following these guidelines: Bugs (including steps for reproduction) can go directly on the tracker. When unsure about a bug/issue, feel free to ask. If you run into a crash, please record a crashdump: Crashdump Instructions Feature requests should be suggested (and possibly discussed) here in these forums before they may be added to the tracker. Changes since 3.0.0 Feature: DR doesn't consider wildcards in skins Feature: Reload Images eature: Texture Tool free scale Feature: Add "Show Definition" to all ResourceTreeView instances Fixed: "Reload Defs" doesn't remove entities that have been commented out Fixed: 'Reload Sounds' doesn't load new FM sound shader definitions Fixed: Reload Defs is not sufficient for reloading modelDefs Fixed: Models are reset to origin after reloadDecls Fixed: Skin Chooser doesn't preselect non-matching skins Fixed: Moving speakers deletes distance spawnargs if they're the same as in shader Fixed: Unable to select func_emitter with particle attached Fixed: Particle Editor Preview lacks vertex colours in lighting mode Fixed: Particle effects still visible when hidden via layers or filter Fixed: Entities referring to modelDefs should use the "idle" pose where possible Fixed: DR does not parse materials in def files Fixed: Modifier Hint Popup can crash when hitting Ctrl/Alt/Shift keys during shutdown Fixed: Insignificant digits displayed in Surface Inspector shift/scale/rotate values Improvement: Skin Chooser: show in which .skin file the skin is defined Improvement: Declaration Block Parsing overhauled Improvement: Python Interface for IDeclarationManagerImprovement: leave player start entity selected after placemen Improvement: Let Map Info show materials used by models Improvement: Renaming Declarations causes problems when saving it later Improvement: Light Texture Preview should display editor images if present Improvement: Remove comments about particle generator in .prt files Material Editor: New Material is locked if the default unnamed name is already in use Material Editor: allow to delete materials Material Editor: image browser's "cancel" button rewrites the material source text Material Editor: does not save manual edits to source text Material Editor: should show .mtr the material is defined in Material Editor: after "Reload Images", image previews are only updated when selecting a different material Material Editor: suboptimal preview for cubeMap materials Material Editor: preview object doesn't have smooth shading Material Editor: preview doesn't take "scale" into account in Textured Mode Material Editor: blend add stages are rendered separately in preview in lighting mode Material Editor: test frob highlight button not working Material Editor: doesn't remember settings from previous session Material Editor: image thumbnails use "scale" keyword from previously selected material Material Editor: frob highlight stage not updated correctly when changing diffusemap Material Editor: using Escape to close ignores unsaved changes Material Editor: Global Settings should be preselected Material Editor: some declaration text is lost while editing#6047: Material Editor: clicking "cancel" when selecting a light classname clears the classname field Material Editor: new materials always sorted last Material Editor: filter for image browser Material Editor: can't unlock editing on materials in "Other Materials" folder Material Editor: tries to save materials in DarkRadiant folder if no FM is installed Material Editor: allow to change preview backgroun Material Editor: preview renders shadows for noshadows materials 'Export selected as Collision Model' doesn't auto-create path folder and throws error Model exporter: manually enter export origin Model exporter: export origin choice should use a radio button Model exporter: only 1 entity's model is reloaded Model exporter: "Use entity origin as export origin" still uses map origin Model exporter: rename "Center Objects around Origin" The list of changes can be found on the our bugtracker changelog. Have fun mapping!

Hi guys, First of all (it's my 1st message), I would say thank you so much for TDM (all your work is amazing)! I love you (big fan of Thief series from first one, just discovered & playing now TDM since weeks). I want to help. I'm Arch Linux user & IT cybersecurity engineer. I would like to submit something I did try to troubleshoot. As said I use multi screens (3 screens). When running TDM (<=2.09), only main monitor display run TDM, others turns black I did try several things, using CLI, windows manager, TDM CVARS, etc... nothing worked. Then I did use nvidia-settings GUI and when running TDM i did see that X config is rewritten. 2 screens got resolution turned off (that's why they turns black). Maybe it should be a great thing to improve that behavior? improving screen parsing & using? Set an option to select a screen? I don't know what is the best solution. May I help? And how? Trying to create a new build on my own? Thanks again. S3ph

Here's the pre-release build 3.1.0pre2 After this pre-release phase I'm going to consider doing this differently, like pushing out the releases more regularly, skipping the "beta" phase. It's a lot of work putting the pre-releases together, and I'm somewhat tired of it. What's new: The Texture Tool got its Free Scale operator now, allowing you to fit the texture with the mouse instead of having to type in the percentages. A lot of work went into the Declaration handling (EntityDef, Skins, Materials, Particles, etc.), which is now much more robust and more conformant to how the game is doing things (at least until TDM 2.10). The Material Editor got a plethora of issues resolved Improved the Model Export dialog and options For more things that have changed or fixed, see the list below. Download Windows Portable x64: https://drive.google.com/file/d/12zKwbeesRIMP7DNeGd0znGl5xqBVrrPX/view?usp=sharing Download Windows Installer x64: https://drive.google.com/file/d/12u5YtpDvpIPL7cR8EPdIIFcnjx9TzpCe/view?usp=sharing Linux folks need to compile this stuff from source, instructions for various distributions are on the wiki. If you happen to run into a crash, please record a crashdump: How to record a crashdump Changes since 3.0.0 can be seen on the Bugtracker changelog, here's the summary: #6065: Feature: DR doesn't consider wildcards in skins #5503: Feature: Reload Images #5805: Feature: Texture Tool free scale #6021: Feature: Add "Show Definition" to all ResourceTreeView instances #6003: Fixed: "Reload Defs" doesn't remove entities that have been commented out #6007: Fixed: 'Reload Sounds' doesn't load new FM sound shader definitions #5504: Fixed: Reload Defs is not sufficient for reloading modelDefs #6035: Fixed: Models are reset to origin after reloadDecls #6064: Fixed: Skin Chooser doesn't preselect non-matching skins #6062: Fixed: Moving speakers deletes distance spawnargs if they're the same as in shader #5988: Fixed: Unable to select func_emitter with particle attached #6000: Fixed: Particle Editor Preview lacks vertex colours in lighting mode #6061: Fixed: Particle effects still visible when hidden via layers or filter #6036: Fixed: Entities referring to modelDefs should use the "idle" pose where possible #4910: Fixed: DR does not parse materials in def files #5982: Fixed: Modifier Hint Popup can crash when hitting Ctrl/Alt/Shift keys during shutdown #5981: Fixed: Insignificant digits displayed in Surface Inspector shift/scale/rotate values #5727: Improvement: Skin Chooser: show in which .skin file the skin is defined #5977: Improvement: Declaration Block Parsing overhauled #6023: Improvement: Python Interface for IDeclarationManager #5972: Improvement: leave player start entity selected after placemen #6066: Improvement: Let Map Info show materials used by models #6073: Improvement: Renaming Declarations causes problems when saving it later #6057: Improvement: Light Texture Preview should display editor images if present #6002: Improvement: Remove comments about particle generator in .prt files #6071: Material Editor: New Material is locked if the default unnamed name is already in use #6031: Material Editor: allow to delete materials #6054: Material Editor: image browser's "cancel" button rewrites the material source text #6030: Material Editor: does not save manual edits to source text #6055: Material Editor: should show .mtr the material is defined in #6069: Material Editor: after "Reload Images", image previews are only updated when selecting a different material #6050: Material Editor: suboptimal preview for cubeMap materials #6042: Material Editor: preview object doesn't have smooth shading #6043: Material Editor: preview doesn't take "scale" into account in Textured Mode #6053: Material Editor: blend add stages are rendered separately in preview in lighting mode #6059: Material Editor: test frob highlight button not working #6045: Material Editor: doesn't remember settings from previous session #6046: Material Editor: image thumbnails use "scale" keyword from previously selected material #6056: Material Editor: frob highlight stage not updated correctly when changing diffusemap #6049: Material Editor: using Escape to close ignores unsaved changes #6051: Material Editor: Global Settings should be preselected #6052: Material Editor: some declaration text is lost while editing#6047: Material Editor: clicking "cancel" when selecting a light classname clears the classname field #6034: Material Editor: new materials always sorted last #6033: Material Editor: filter for image browser #6037: Material Editor: can't unlock editing on materials in "Other Materials" folder #6029: Material Editor: tries to save materials in DarkRadiant folder if no FM is installed #6048: Material Editor: allow to change preview backgroun #6040: Material Editor: preview renders shadows for noshadows materials Changes since 3.1.0pre1 #5997: 'Export selected as Collision Model' doesn't auto-create path folder and throws error #6013: Model exporter: manually enter export origin #6012: Model exporter: export origin choice should use a radio button #6014: Model exporter: only 1 entity's model is reloaded #6011: Model exporter: "Use entity origin as export origin" still uses map origin #6015: Model exporter: rename "Center Objects around Origin" Thanks for testing, as always!

If the "mission fails as soon as stealth score turns non-zero," that would not be good for ghost players. They might need to find out "how" they failed and experiment to avoid alerting guards. They might need to take those score points as a "bust". They might need to take those score points to complete an objective. Then, mission authors would need to encode exceptions into their missions, which would be a lot of work (if they decide to do it at all). However, part of what makes ghosting challenging and fun is when mission authors do not create their missions with ghosting in mind. Please see: Official Ghosting Rules: https://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148523 Writing code for these rules would be a huge undertaking. Ghost Rules Discussion: https://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148487 Creating an official mode could alienate these dedicated ghost players, because it would clash with what is considered ghosting in the community. Including the Stealth Stat Tool mod in the official release would be more useful. Or, making the audible alert states of guards quick and easy to recognize could help as well. For these reasons, I don't agree with an official "Ghost" mode. If the dev team were to do it, we should consult with @Klatremus so we get it 100% correct or not pursue it at all. (This ghosting bit should probably be in its own thread.)

Here's the pre-release build 3.0.0pre8, we're getting closer to the finish line. It's about time for a new major release - not just because of the changes of this build, but for all the improvements made over the last few releases. I'm going to need your help stabilising this release, with all the renderer changes things are bound to require a few tweaks. Most time since 2.14 has been spent on the renderer, which should now be faster in regular (non-lit) render mode. Lit render mode is probably not going to be faster, but at least more accurate. You can activate Shadow Mapping, and the interaction shader code has been ported over from TDM to produce the same look as the game. Starting with this release, the user settings will be saved separately for each DR version, meaning that this release won't mess with the settings of the previous versions, including keyboard shortcuts, colours, last used maps, etc. DR will try to import and use any settings of previous releases, but it won't change them. For more things that have changed or fixed, see the list below. Download Windows Portable x64: https://drive.google.com/file/d/121ibqqYMKqRqjcQ1zS0HtM4JO0ADrgRo/view?usp=sharing Download Windows Installer x64: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1209hG92chVzqOc-iaFDzJ0cBfQucDad8/view?usp=sharing Linux folks need to compile this stuff from source, instructions for various distributions are on the wiki. If you happen to run into a crash, please record a crashdump: How to record a crashdump Changes since 2.14.0 can be seen on the Bugtracker changelog, here's the summary: #5787: Feature: Add "Create Particle" to right-click orthoview drop-down menu #219: Feature: Shadow mapping support #5761: Feature: Cut functionality to complement copy and paste #5757: Feature: Ability to center 3D camera on selected entity #5927: Feature: Save user settings by application version #5848: Feature: MD5 Animation Viewer: show current frame & total frames #5849: Feature: MD5 Animation Viewer: jump to frame #5905: Improvement: Safeguard warning against Loss of Layering #5872: Improvement: Option to filter skins out of search results in the Choose Model dialogue #5909: Improvement: Revisit Interaction Shader to get closer to the TDM looks #5822: Improvement: UI tweaks for worldspawn-to-entity conversion #5873: Improvement: Entity inspector should recognise spawnargs beginning with "sprS_" as def spawnargs #5825: Improvement: Allow absolute paths for snapshots #5910: Improvement: Entity Inspector: classname field should always be read-only, to force use of the "Choose entity class" button #5925: Fixed: Objective GUI doesn't display properly in some places #5919: Fixed: Crash on loading certain maps #5829: Fixed: Entity inspector shows inherited spawnargs of previous selection #5853: Fixed: DR overwrite order for defs is different from TDM's #5897: Fixed: X/Y and Camera View bindings don't save properly #5858: Fixed: "Replace Selection with exported Model" sets classname to "func_static". #5864: Fixed: Map -> Edit Package Info (darkmod.txt)... crashes DarkRadiant #5846: Fixed: Rotating a func_static result to random stretch textures #5840: Fixed: DR crashes when syncing with remote Git repository #5847: Fixed: Switching visibility of Github repo from public to private causes crash #5841: Fixed: Dockable window layout doesn't save new floating XY views #5844: Fixed: "Choose skin..." button on custom model spawnargs shows skins for main model spawnarg #5826: Fixed: Entity inspector considers inherited colors black #5885: Fixed: ReloadDefs moves def_attached light crystals to entity origin #5901: Fixed: .lin files can't be opened if different case than .map name #5884: Fixed: Model chooser radio box selection issue #5836: Fixed: Changing multiple lights between omni/projected resets colours to black Changes since 3.0.0pre1 #5934: Selection overlay is z-fighting on patches #5932: ForceShadows materials are not casting shadows #5933: Moving brushes doesn't update the scene in lit render mode Changes since 3.0.0pre2 #5941: Selected Skin not showing in ModelSelector #5935: Defs takes longer every time #5939: Texture tool Free rotation not showing anymore #5940: Light diamond frequently disappears on colour change until it's moved again #5938: Additive blend stages over black diffusemap are z-fighting #5936: Ambient lights don't render properly in lighting preview mode Changes since 3.0.0pre3 #5949: Fixed: DR crash with combination of mouse buttons pressed #5948: Fixed: Manipulation Vertex Dots are hard to see #5947: Fixed: Git Sync Exception: too many redirects or authentication replays #5907: Feature: Allow way to hide some entities in Create Entity list #5946: Improvement: Speaker radii should be transparent #5945: Improvement: Light diamonds should be transparent again #5937: Fixed: Sound radius spheres don't always update #5943: Fixed: Brush manipulation is laggy in huge maps #5942: Fixed: Missing brushes when opening alphalabs1 from vanilla Doom 3 PK4s Changes since 3.0.0pre4 Reduced Frame Buffer Count from 3 to 1, this should reduce RAM consumption a lot #5953: Wireframe object drawing order is changing between sessions #5951: "Hide Deselected" is slowed when there's a lot of patches present in the scene #5950: Visibility checks are slowing down front-end render pass Changes since 3.0.0pre5 #5955 + #5956: Fixed: Player start entity is invisible in 3.0.0pre5 #5959: Geometry Corruption / weird diagonal lines messing up the view Changes since 3.0.0pre6 #5966: Light entity radious colour changes as you pan the camera around. #5964: Cannot manipulate func_emitter after creation #5965: Resizing light entites via light_radius in property inspector broken #5963: More Geometry Corruption in Camera View (Lighting Mode) #5960: Crash in MD5 model viewer Changes since 3.0.0pre7 #5968: origin of player start entity misaligned #5969: Cannot snap selected patch vertices to grid Thanks for testing, as always!

To cater to both audiences. I mentioned LibreGameWiki as one example. nbohr1more mentioned other uses. Explicitly allowing reuse and spread will help TDM reach a wider audience and would hopefully attract more volunteers. More volunteers which can help improve both TDM versions. There are several benefits for a project of being in the Debian repo. One is that TDM Debian-users can report defects on any package directly to Debian (no need to register on separate forums). Debian may then fix the issue themselves (in their "TDM-libre" package) and will offer the patch upstream to TDM, who can then choose to accept or reject the patch. I envision "TDM-libre" to have the same capability of downloading any mission as regular TDM. The only difference is that "TDM-libre" would come packaged with the regular engine (which is GPL+BSD) and an included mission that has libre media/gamedata. When I play TDM by myself, I want the unlimited-play and can accept commercial restrictions. But if I were to promote it somewhere, or charge for a stream when playing online, or make a video, I would want a version without commercial restrictions (and can temporarily accept limited-play) to make sure I don't violate anyone's copyright. Perhaps. That's what I'm trying to find out.

I suggest you use the term "I", to make clear that it is something YOU want, and that you speak for yourself. But, as wesp5 mentioned, I don't really know what this is about, at all. And, I'm also wondering about all the newly registered people lately, who just arrived at this forum, and already want to revolutionize this mod. This is a thing I noticed 2 or 3 years ago, and which hasn't been present in the 15 years I play this mod and frequent these forums now. Really seems like a common thing these days, to not knock on the door, but kick it in, and stomp right in.