Black Mage: performance problems (and fog)

[Gadavre]

Hi

I started testing the new "The Black Mage" mission in versions 2.09b and 2.10.  I wanted to turn off the fog for better visibility and better performance. But I couldn't as my favorite variable stopped working!

seta r_skipFogLights "1"

In version 2.07 this variable worked and I was able to disable fog in Thief's Den 3 mission (Heart of Lone Salvation)

Maybe there is other variables to disable fog in the latest versions of the game? If this is a bug, please fix it.

[stgatilov]

If you are talking about "fog" at the starting location, then technically it is not fog, it is particles.

You can disable all particles by "r_skipParticles 1".

[Gadavre]

3 hours ago, stgatilov said:

If you are talking about "fog" at the starting location, then technically it is not fog, it is particles.

You can disable all particles by "r_skipParticles 1".

 

I did it. In doing so, fire is gone all over the map and the map has become boring without fire. It's not a solution to the problem.

it may be possible to add a new variable to the version 2.10 that will only disable Fog of particles

 

Edited December 25, 2021 by Gadavre

[Dragofer]

@GadavreUntil you get this new variable you could use this customised particle file to make the most common fog particles invisible. z_nofog.prt You have to be logged in to download it. (edit: should be renamed to a_nofog.prt)

To use it, close TDM and create a folder called "particles" in your "darkmod" folder and put this file inside it. Result: darkmod/particles/z_nofog.prt.

Some FMs like The Black Mage have custom versions of fog particles, which means this file might not work 100%. So you can create a folder called "particles" in the fm's folder and put a copy of the file inside it. Result: darkmod/fms/black_mage/particles/z_nofog.prt.

[Gadavre]

1 hour ago, Dragofer said:

@GadavreUntil you get this new variable you could use this customised particle file to make the most common fog particles invisible. z_nofog.prt You have to be logged in to download it.

To use it, close TDM and create a folder called "particles" in your "darkmod" folder and put this file inside it. Result: darkmod/particles/z_nofog.prt.

Some FMs like The Black Mage have custom versions of fog particles, which means this file might not work 100%. So you can create a folder called "particles" in the fm's folder and put a copy of the file inside it. Result: darkmod/fms/black_mage/particles/z_nofog.prt.

I did everything like you wrote, but the fog didn't go away....version 2.09b

Edited December 25, 2021 by Gadavre

[Dragofer]

2 hours ago, Gadavre said:

I did everything like you wrote, but the fog didn't go away....version 2.09b

Alright, try renaming both copies of the file from z_nofog.prt to a_nofog.prt.

[stgatilov]

There is no way the game engine can help you.
From its point of view, the fog particles and the fire particles are the same thing.

You best bet would be to modify the mission locally.
Like finding which particle it is and overriding its particle decl.

Anyway, you can just get indoors quickly, there is no fog indoors.

[nbohr1more]

You can ask @JackFarmer if he would be willing to add lod_bias args to all the fog particle emitters. Then you can set your LOD detail to low and it should prevent these from rendering.

https://wiki.thedarkmod.com/index.php?title=LOD_Bias

( Or edit the entity defs for the emitters in your local copy )

 

[Gadavre]

6 hours ago, Dragofer said:

Alright, try renaming both copies of the file from z_nofog.prt to a_nofog.prt.

yes! yes! You're a good wizard! Put a "particles" folder with your file in the TDM folder and the fog disappeared!

Edited December 26, 2021 by Gadavre

[Gadavre]

@Dragofer

Could you make  another file for the PARTICLES folder?

If r_SkipUpdates 1, it helps. But in the game, in this case, bugs appear. Player can not open the doors

 

Edited December 26, 2021 by Gadavre

[jaxa]

BTW, for reference, what are your specs?

[Gadavre]

2 hours ago, jaxa said:

BTW, for reference, what are your specs?

is that a question for me? I've already answered it. I have good specs except for the video card. nvidia GT1030 2GB VRAM GDDR5. all missions on the old version of the game 2.07 go without lag (until approximately 2018).

New modern missions have become very large and video card demanding

Edited December 26, 2021 by Gadavre

[duzenko]

9 hours ago, Gadavre said:

is that a question for me? I've already answered it. I have good specs except for the video card. nvidia GT1030 2GB VRAM GDDR5. all missions on the old version of the game 2.07 go without lag (until approximately 2018).

New modern missions have become very large and video card demanding

You realize that the mission creators don't target your PC specs? Why do you insist on having it with all bells and whistles at 60 fps? Feel free to contribute a source code patch that would achieve that, it would be very much welcome, but understand that the next mission that comes out after that will push the graphics details even further and you will have to start from scratch again

Did you try the parallel jobs cvar like I advised above?

[Gadavre]

8 hours ago, duzenko said:

 

Did you try the parallel jobs cvar like I advised above?

I don't know what you mean. Which variable do I need to change?

I wrote above that I got a big boost in fps with this line,

r_SkipUpdates 1

but this line also introduced bugs to the mission... Turning off the shadows completely didn't help

Edited December 27, 2021 by Gadavre

[duzenko]

r_useparalleljob... something

[Gadavre]

14 minutes ago, duzenko said:

r_useparalleljob... something

there is no such variable in 2.09b

[STRUNK]

r_useParallelAddModels 1
jobs_numThreads x

https://wiki.thedarkmod.com/index.php?title=What's_new_in_TDM_2.09

Is that what you mean @duzenko?

I tried that myself but it changed nothing for me.

Edited December 27, 2021 by STRUNK

[duzenko]

1 hour ago, STRUNK said:

r_useParallelAddModels 1
jobs_numThreads x

https://wiki.thedarkmod.com/index.php?title=What's_new_in_TDM_2.09

Is that what you mean @duzenko?

I tried that myself but it changed nothing for me.

Right

[duzenko]

1 hour ago, STRUNK said:

r_useParallelAddModels 1
jobs_numThreads x

https://wiki.thedarkmod.com/index.php?title=What's_new_in_TDM_2.09

Is that what you mean @duzenko?

I tried that myself but it changed nothing for me.

What is your problem exactly?

[STRUNK]

Massive fps drop in the caves. I posted in the black mage fan mission topic my specs.

 

[duzenko]

36 minutes ago, STRUNK said:

Massive fps drop in the caves. I posted in the black mage fan mission topic my specs.

 

getviewpos?

r_showsmp?

GPU load as reported by Afterburner/task manager?

[STRUNK]

getviewpos -4514.34 1613.03 -1427.32 -7.7 -156.4 0.0
"r_showsmp" is: "0"

Task manager:
GPU load 40%
CPU load 17%

TDM 2.09b 64

[duzenko]

r_showsmp prints something when set to 1

Anyway, does the parallel job cvar help with fps and GPU load any?

And what is your fps?

[STRUNK]

r_showsmp seems to spit out FFFFFF
I also see: Exceeded index frame limit (4096 kb), resizing...
New byffer size: 33285 kb
And: 16.0 to 24 milliseconds for asingle "R_AddSingleModel" job from list JOBLIST_RENDERED_FRONTEND on thread x
I set the jobs_numThreads to 8
Using 2 or 8 threads doesn't seem to hav an effect on GPU load.
Most part of the game the fps is above 60, in the lava cave it's between 4 and 12

[STRUNK]

When I'm in the cave and "killmonsters" my fps problem is gone and Igetfps above 100
That seems to indicate, for me,that the blue elementals cause a huge problem.
@Gadavre, could you try entering killmonsters in the lava cave?

Edited December 28, 2021 by STRUNK