Hidden Hands: Blood & Metal (Campaign) - 01.09.2024

[Drew]

5 hours ago, chakkman said:

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It has to be, unless you're using the wrong lever. 

It's on the right wall when you're standing in front of the contraption you put the fuses in.

 

Thanks! I had to wait for the lever to activate.

[JackFarmer]

1 hour ago, CountMorillonite said:

I'm on mission #2.....Should I download ver 2 and will it eliminate my progress in the campaign ?

Go on with Version 1 because (no offense) you do not strike me as the kind of player trying nasty things. 
 

Version 1 savegames do Not work with Version 2.

[Johnnytheboy76]

By jingo! Finally completed the fifth mission this morning! What an epic journey that was! I'm partial to the larger map missions and this didn't disappoint. Massive congrats on this release. Hope to see more Hidden Hands missions in the future!

[CountMorillonite]

Mission 2

I see a pear beside a pumpkin, but it doesn't frob. So it is either not the pear I need, or there is a problem.  As things stand, I'm wandering around looking for something to do.

 

And yes, I haven't tried one nasty thing for a whole week and counting....looking for the badge.

[chakkman]

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The fruits and vegetables you need don't reside next to each other, they're all in different places.

 

Edited September 15, 2024 by chakkman

[CountMorillonite]

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Then where is the pear ? Can it be way back before the pagan area (the cave-like area with the trees). I'm getting the feeling that I'm missing a section.

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I found it.....and it was RIGHT out in the open !!!

 

Edited September 16, 2024 by CountMorillonite
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[datiswous]

On 9/14/2024 at 4:56 PM, JackFarmer said:

Version 2 is now online. It just includes workarounds for the button/switches.

I posted a couple of issues I found with the fm. Maybe you could include (some of) them for the next fix?

See the (hidden) screenshots.

Edited September 16, 2024 by datiswous

[Heuli]

I have completed the mission wow what an adventure I am thrilled

[Knüppelaufdierübe]

In the guild's basement where

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you have to find Jonus (and Desmond), where is the 3rd crystal? I found one in the section with dark mossy walls and one in the section with white-tiled floors.

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OK, nevermind. I just found out that the slightly reddish white crystals that you find in the borg infested area are not the ones you need to take. You need to pull the levers by the white white crystals. Still only found 2 of the 3, though.

Damn, there is way too much stuff going on with way too little explanation.

Edited September 17, 2024 by Knüppelaufdierübe
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[DaffyTaffer]

I was here daily for a while looking for hints on various missions, then just played (and replayed) missions for a while without visiting.  Can't believe I missed this one on release.  And so many pages of messages in a short time! 

 

I do like to read here so I don't find out something long after I've already been through an area and then have to backtrack.  But then again, some of the missions are so incredibly immersive that I don't mind an immediate replay armed with new information.

I can't tell if I'm bad at controls or if my computer doesn't allow me to jump well, but I sure can't get where other people seem to be able to go.  Sometimes I stack to get to places I'm not sure if you're supposed to get to, but sometimes I have to do things like this to get where others seem to be able to go. (pic)

I'm not sure if my life is boring or if this is just incredibly great, but thank you to all of the people who do incredibly good work and make very high quality games.  Haven't started yet, but I'm sure it's a treat as all of you developers just seem to get better and better.

[CountMorillonite]

Is there a way to insert a picture and place it within the spoiler. There is a 500kB limitation which I can't meet without making the pic too poor to understand. The pic above may not be cloaked in the spoiler, but it still manages to make it onto the body of the message while being constrained by the same 500kB limitation.

[chakkman]

What's the resolution of your pic? 500 kb is plenty really...

[CountMorillonite]

3840x2160 (4.32Meg)

I tried reducing it to accommodate the fit but then the pic looked awful.

I never thought to go back and re-take the picture under lower resolution instead of reducing the high resolution pic already taken. I should try that.

 

Ok, I managed to re-size to make the picture fit, but now I don't know how to insert it into the Spoiler. Each attempt places it outside and beneath the Spoiler Block. Maybe I'm reading the "Preview" wrong. I don't want to post this message if the pic can't be cloaked

Edited September 17, 2024 by CountMorillonite
Problem partially solved but issues remain

[joebarnin]

I think if you create spoiler section, and then drag in the graphic into it, you should be safe. But if you're really worried, store the graphic out in a free file storage site (e.g., Dropbox) and put a link to it in your post.

[chakkman]

After you attached the picture, you can click on "Insert in line" where the picture is, or something like that.

[kin]

I have found

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mold 1 & 5

but I am confused on how to find-

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make the ones needed to open the basement gate.

 

[chakkman]

Search around a bit more, they're all there.

[CountMorillonite]

Mission 2

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This was incredibly hard to complete in stealth mode.  I did it, but it cost me health. One of the problems was entering the area illustrated in the attached pic, but it "looked" like I could circumvent the direct way. I could not find a switch to drop the door and fill the tank with water though. I tried vine and rope arrows to get up there, but nothing held. Was this a distraction or is it an   alternate way in ?

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Edited September 18, 2024 by CountMorillonite

[CountMorillonite]

12 hours ago, chakkman said:

After you attached the picture, you can click on "Insert in line" where the picture is, or something like that.

Thank you.....it worked. I didn't see the "insert in line"

[Bergante]

1 hour ago, CountMorillonite said:

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This was incredibly hard to complete in stealth mode.  I did it, but it cost me health.

 

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You lost Health !? 
that sounds to me like you try to supremeGhost (without using waterarrows) ?
so - how did you sneak by the Guard with torch in the Tunnel ?

the alternate way : 

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should be done with 3 Vine - they have to be carefully placed

 

[chakkman]

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Yeah, that's how I did it as well. I don't know if there's another way.

Even with 3 vine arrows, it was pretty fiddly, and I had to jump from one vine area to the next...

 

Edited September 18, 2024 by chakkman

[CountMorillonite]

To Bergannte

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I'm not sure what those modes mean, like I think SpremeGhost requires you close doors behind you and close chests that have loot in them, and basically leave no indication that you've been there. I certainly don't do that. It's how I know I've been in an area. But I make use of "Whistle" a lot, and use water/gas/rope, noisemaker  arrows whenever necessary. My goal is to get the Stealth Mode Listing at the bottom right all 0's.

The guard you are referring to (I think) was extremely difficult to tippy toe past, but I managed it (from a distance).  Or if you mean the guard past the Dark Key Gate, I think I dowsed his torch, whistled him over, and clubbed him (without creating suspicion). Sorry that I don't remember (happens with age)

I lost health by silently dropping down behind the 2 guards protecting the entrance to the Dark Key Gate (took MANY attempts) and clubbing them both.

This was the reason for my post in the first place. It seemed the direct way was NOT the way you were supposed to enter the next area.

To Chakkman & Bergannte

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It never even occurred to me to use multiple vine arrows. I need to go back to a Save and check that out.

I suppose this means that there was no way to close the tank room, and fill it with water to get to the opening, duplicating a  technique done previously.

 

[chakkman]

 

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I couldn't find anything in that regard.

[Bergante]

1 hour ago, CountMorillonite said:

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I lost health by silently dropping down behind the 2 guards protecting the entrance to the Dark Key Gate (took MANY attempts) and clubbing them both

 

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Ha - makes me smile - that someone else made the silent drop behind these two guards
(to let you know : it can be done without health-loss )
the mess by these guards is = you can´t put a RopeArrow into the crates above them
without making them at least suspicious   ( to be able to climb back in silence )
but i wonder : if you don´t restrict yourself to no waterarrows -
than why didn´t you douse the torch/es of the front guards ?

P.S. if you like to know about Ghosting : 

 

[CountMorillonite]

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 I tried to dowse the torches from a distance, but it raised their suspicions (I don't know why sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't). Besides, dowsing the torches doesn't silence the squishy noises in the sewer water made when creeping towards them. I get really close, then someone is alerted.

The other possibility was to use the Noisemaker Arrow, They left their posts but never too far away and one of them always lingered behind, only to be alerted by my noisy creeping in the sewer water or my grunting when i dropped down.