Newbie DarkRadiant Questions

[grayman]

Can you provide a test map showing the problem? I haven't seen a projected light bug before, and I can't tell if your light is projecting sideways or down.

[Garreth]

http://www.megafileu.../train-map.html

http://www.megafileu...train-proc.html

http://www.megafileu.../train-bak.html

 

i dont think it can be fixed though, now i am thinking about illuminating the tunnel with spotlights, that way it seems do-able

have a look at the rest of the map, i built this in 2 days, minus the piano, desk and skybox that is, i stole those from other mappers.

 

I am making a gigantic database of assets found in other mappers maps, that way it would be easier to fill up your maps i just extract everything that is usable including characters and pathways, fires, lights, torches, furniture, etc

all combined into one map, like a gigantic furniture store, just copy and paste to camera.

i will post that one when it is completed.

Edited August 12, 2013 by Garreth

[Obsttorte]

Making those things prefabs may make more sense.

[Garreth]

you mean implemented in the mod? if it has movable doors i dont think you can make that prefab,

and you must be able to customize it

like i just put a guy to sleep on a couch, it had to be accurately placed so, i copied him to this map and someone else would not have to do all the testing to see if he is laying correctly they just have to give the cushion another texture, and maybe replace the couch by another color.

 

Edited August 12, 2013 by Garreth

[Obsttorte]

Prefabs are basically map files. You can include anything you want. Just map what you like to have, select everything and use the "export selection as prefab" option.

[Garreth]

i see but then you don't have a preview of what you want with prefabs- just a name.

with that map i create you just have a full view of all the objects, easy to select in top view, copy, and paste in your other map.

and prefabs cannot be exported to the camera leaving with alot of zooming and dragging.

Edited August 12, 2013 by Garreth

[Obsttorte]

Actually, prefabs get included were you've put them. There is a prefab preview, and they are all sorted by categories and can have suitable names. This seems much better to me than a map file with tons of things in it which I don't oversee.

 

But in the end it's your choice, though.

[Goldwell]

How do you resize from these directions with the mouse?

 

[Moonbo]

You mean hit "F" and then select the face and then use the mouse to drag to the right size?

[Goldwell]

You mean hit "F" and then select the face and then use the mouse to drag to the right size?

 

I mean drag it out similar to how the opposing sides are dragged out

[Obsttorte]

Just move the mouse beneath it and start dragging.

[Goldwell]

Just move the mouse beneath it and start dragging.

 

That doesn't resize that side though it just moves the whole entity

[Goldwell]

Oh wait i'm an idiot. Sorry Moonbo you were right it is F, I didn't see the green dots the first time around.

 

Thanks guys! thats my derp for the day

[Obsttorte]

That doesn't resize that side though it just moves the whole entity

You have to click on one side of the brush, not at it.

[Goldwell]

You have to click on one side of the brush, not at it.

 

Read the post above you I got it all sorted I was looking in the wrong place the error was on me

 

Thanks for your help though!

[stumpy]

does the light have a light texture on it or is it just a light without one, cos if you use a light texture then it shouldn't project beyond the shape of the light texture,

[Moonbo]

yeah the default light has no texture so it just projects a blank square.

[Kvorning]

Okay I've got 5 issues with my map, and I thought it would be wise to ask a broader audience than just the testers for these. Some may consider them spoilers, so used the tags, 'just in case'.

 

 

-I cannot get the same light values on the model lights "atdm:standing_chandelier_3_candles" and "atdm:chandelier_3_candles" as if I was using a normal "light_candleflame". When using "set color on x" they seem over-saturated, and lower values don't seem to work.

-Spiderweb textures on brushes looks "wrong" when when in light other than ambient. I can't get them to only be lighted by ambient, where they look the best.

-Sleeping AIs tend to fall through the floor if blocked when they try to stand up.

-Can't get sound_loss to work on transparent windows. Using info_locationseperators.

-The noblewoman AI has a key bound to belt_back_right, but it seems to be floating a few units behind her.

 

Edited August 14, 2013 by Kvorning

[Obsttorte]

 

 

- the chandelier is a bit problematic, as you have three light sources near each other. Try reducing the light_radii

- spiderwebs are decals, place them on patches

- the fall through happens sometimes, this is a TDM issue

- the sound loss is for the ai imho, I think there are different spawnargs for what the player here, but grayman can tell you better, also note that this is a 2.0 feature

- try the joint rightHips_Dummy

 

 

I hope that helps a bit.

[Moonbo]

 

 

For the AI falling, try putting a nodraw solid brush in the exact spot that the bed is. I've heard that this works to help stop the AI from falling through.

 

 

[Bikerdude]

I cannot get the same light values on the model lights "atdm:standing_chandelier_3_candles" and "atdm:chandelier_3_candles" as if I was using a normal "light_candleflame".

Ive got a prefab, that fixes all that and is also only uses one light source instead of thread cutting down on the Draw calls (DC)

 

Here yer go, just rename to .zip and unzip etc.

 

chandelier_3candle_1l-source.zip.txt

[Kvorning]

Awesome stuff guys, getting to it right away and I'll let you know later how it pans out.

[Kvorning]

 

The chandelier was an awesome way for fixing the light and now looks -perfect-!

 

The AI thing I'm gonna say is fine with a monster clipping inside the bed. They fall through less now.

 

The joint wasn't recognized during dmap, but it's a minor detail really.

 

The lightning on webs are still an issue weather it's patch or brush.

Here's a couple of shots so you can see if I did the joint thing wrong, and how the webs look like:

 

 

 

Oh and, does anyone know if the "slick" surface friction levels can be modified?

Edited August 15, 2013 by Kvorning

[AluminumHaste]

Don't use that web texture, there are others that look like normal webs, that one looks like the ones in Indiana Jones when he goes into the temple to grab the golden statue.

[Kvorning]

I like the effect they give where it looks like a thick layer of dust has covered old web. Besides I need to set the mood for when the big boulder comes rolling around the corner.