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Relax @Näkki, it's great to hear you enjoyed the game. My personal expectations were just a bit different when I read the Steam page, although the various trailers should have been a warning that stealth maybe wasn't the biggest priority of the devs. From the Steam page: "Weird west legends meet eldritch horror in BLOOD WEST, an immersive stealth FPS." Also "Blood West is a stealth FPS inspired by the genre classics such as the Thief series (whose fans will be happy to hear the voice of Stephen Russell, the actor voicing the master-thief Garrett, returning here as the protagonist), S.T.A.L.K.E.R. games, or - from the contemporary catalog - Hunt: Showdown. The gameplay rewards the careful approach: scouting the area, stalking your enemies, and striking from the shadows. Can you figure out a way to clear a fort full of ghouls and monsters without raising an alarm?" From my personal experience I think the game is predominantly Hunt: Showdown, a bit of S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and a very small portion Thief. Stealth is very unforgiving and makes it almost impossible early game when there are various enemies around, but hey maybe I just suck at it. I don't see Deus Ex in it, unless the skill leveling is the Deus Ex part for you and then I have to disagree with you, as that seems like the trait system in Hunt: Showdown. Edit: What I also understood from the Steam forums is that the original VA was dropped close before the release of the full version and replaced by Russell with no real explanation from the devs why this was done.

So, if I understand you, no Thief Gold FM does sound and text notifications of completed objectives? The missions in The Black Parade surely did. I'm completely confused now. I was sure that original Thief Gold had those objective complete notifications (at least the sound). Reading this thread suggests otherwise though: https://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=132977

Greetings everyone! I recently got into TDM and am already having a lot of fun playing through and ghosting missions. However, coming from Thief, I am mostly relying on the rules and my experience with that game, while there are clearly differences in how TDM works. Right now, there is talk in the ghosting discussion thread on TTLG to amend the ruleset and include clarifications pertaining to TDM. So I wanted to drop by and ask: is there an active TDM ghosting community already and have any rules for this playstyle been developed? I would also like to ask someone to take a look at the draft of this addendum to see whether everything looks correct: https://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148487&page=16&p=2473352&viewfull=1#post2473352 Thanks!

Of course, it is one of the reasons for the decline of online forums, since the advent of mobile phones. Forums on a mobile are a pain in the ass, but on the other hand, for certain things there are no real alternatives to forums, social networks cannot be with their sequential threads, where it is almost impossible to retrieve answers to a question that is asked. has done days ago. For devs for internal communication, the only thing offered is a collaborative app, such as System D (not to be confused with systemd). FOSS, free and anonymous registration, access further members only by invitation, full encrypted and private. https://www.system-d.org

A Problem Arises I've paused subtitling of the Lady02 vocal set, because of a problem with the voice clips described here: https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/21741-subtitles-possibilities-beyond-211/&do=findComment&comment=490151 While a way forward is being determined, I'll work on a different vocal set. Maybe manbeast, for which Kingsal just provided me the voice script.

Since it already has been mentioned in the forums, I'd like to announce a small project of mine. A few weeks ago I was playing Legend of Grimrock and it struck me that their level design is extremely simple and modular, and yet, the player can spend quite a lot of time in the game. And it looks pretty, too! So I wondered if it wouldn't be possible to create a modern "Dungeon Crawler" (solve puzzles, fight monsters, collect loot, progress your character, upgrade your equipment) type of game inside the TDM engine. The engine already supports a lot of things one needs for this, and the overal structure and assets work, too. And with prefabs, one might get the level layout done quickly. However, building a few test prefabs in DR is easy, but creating a full mission out of them is quite painful. Not only needs it a lot of planning, but you can also spend a lot of time "upgrading" things later on. For instance if you later want to add a grime decal to the walls, you have to revisit the entire map. Even worse is if you find out later that your block size must be bigger or smaller. So the idea was born to create a sort of framework that can assemble missions from prefabs. Preferable while getting the description of the mission from a text file. So far, this has been a lot easier than I thought. Here is what I got working so far: Overview: You can describe your mission in a (Unicode) text file. This contains overall options, different locations (each location can have its own ambient light, music,name, fog), and the connections between the locations. Each location can have multiple "floor levels", these are stacked on top of each other. The config file also specifies which symbol means "use this prefab". It is also possible to specify links (per location), which means you can say "this lever with the symbol A opens the door with the symbol D". The framework reads the prefabs, and then positiones them in the map. It also glues all the locations together, adds location_info entities, a player start, an exit, and an objective to reach the exit. The resulting map is then enhanced with script objects (all nec. assets are bundled together), and automatically dmapped via TDM. Everything then is packaged together into a working .PK4 file. My demo map takes about 20 seconds, where 15 are dmap. In addition to the "basic" stuff I also managed to get a few things working, like a pressure plate, portcullies, and also made some puzzles. Oh, and per location fog (fading from location to location). Different difficulty levels are also supported, one can specify "this prefab appears only on easy" etc. You can find more info and screenshots and demo here: http://bloodgate.com/swift/ There is also a developer diary where I will be posting interesting entries from time to time. Here is an DR shot of a sample level, consisting of small modular prefabs and one large (the large hall on the lower left): The next steps will be to add more randomness (either static at map generation, or at runtime, so the map is slightly different each time you replay it). Also, while it is already possible to "overlay" prefabs (e.g. "for this location, look first here before falling back to the default"), it is not yet possible to "reskin" prefabs. This would be something which is impossible in DR (you cannot really reskin worldspawn brushes, unless you live with the fact that it is all manual For now I'm quite excited!

Bug 1: In "The Accountant 2: New in Town": "Grab your gear" objective will not complete when using auto-frob. Individual clicking on each item completes the objective. To replicate: [spoiler] Exit starting room and head inside the room to your far right, next to a window. Pull the "lever" to open the secret door leading to your gear. See that auto-frobbing will not complete the objective, while individual clicking does. Bug 2: In "Cole Hurst 1: Eaton" Individual clicking leaves player with 3 functional maps, while auto-frobbing might result with only 1 or 2 of them usable. Auto-frobbing will cause player to pick up, but not acquire map items to inventory. To replicate: Upon spawning, drop to lower floor and pick up items on your table by individual clicking. See that you should end up with 3 separate maps, all of which become usable by "cycle maps" key. Now restart and pick up everything by auto-frobbing. Sometimes you are only left with 1 or 2 maps instead of the 3. If you keep your eye on pickup messages while auto-frobbing, you can briefly notice "acquired -", instead of "acquired (map item name)" You can also see that once first map is picked up, you might have to release the "frob" key and click again to pick up other maps, while other item types do not need the key to be released. Also, inventory item in the corner of the screen might say "special" with no visible icon.

Black Parade is released ! https://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152429

Body awareness please. https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/20013-are-you-gonna-add-this/

I loved it. Awesome game. I faceplanted at the people who asked for quest markers in the Steam forums there... Herr, lass Hirn regnen. The game is so great, and so true to the original, because it doesn't hold your hand. When is the new breed of gamers gonna learn.

So giving it none of those tags, but making the AI invisible, silent, non-solid, and on a team neutral to everyone would not work? Oh well, it was a horrible inelegant idea anyway.

Hello. I am trying to build TDM on Linux and am getting errors. I'm new to Linux, so don't judge too harshly. The game installs and works through the installer, I just want to try to make a reproducible build into a package. gcc-c++-10 cmake-3.20 + cmake -DCMAKE_SKIP_INSTALL_RPATH:BOOL=yes '-DCMAKE_C_FLAGS:STRING=-pipe -frecord-gcc-switches -Wall -g -O2' '-DCMAKE_CXX_FLAGS:STRING=-pipe -frecord-gcc-switches -Wall -g -O2' '-DCMAKE_Fortran_FLAGS:STRING=-pipe -frecord-gcc-switches -Wall -g -O2' -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr -DINCLUDE_INSTALL_DIR:PATH=/usr/include -DLIB_INSTALL_DIR:PATH=/usr/lib64 -DSYSCONF_INSTALL_DIR:PATH=/etc -DSHARE_INSTALL_PREFIX:PATH=/usr/share -DLIB_DESTINATION=lib64 -DLIB_SUFFIX=64 -S . -B x86_64-linux -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release -- The C compiler identification is GNU 10.3.1 -- The CXX compiler identification is GNU 10.3.1 -- Detecting C compiler ABI info -- Detecting C compiler ABI info - done -- Check for working C compiler: /usr/bin/cc - skipped -- Detecting C compile features -- Detecting C compile features - done -- Detecting CXX compiler ABI info -- Detecting CXX compiler ABI info - done -- Check for working CXX compiler: /usr/bin/c++ - skipped -- Detecting CXX compile features -- Detecting CXX compile features - done -- Performing Test MSSE2_SUPPORTED -- Performing Test MSSE2_SUPPORTED - Success Determining SVN revision Setting up precompiled header for GCC -- Configuring done -- Generating done CMake Warning: Manually-specified variables were not used by the project: CMAKE_Fortran_FLAGS CMAKE_SKIP_INSTALL_RPATH INCLUDE_INSTALL_DIR LIB_DESTINATION LIB_INSTALL_DIR LIB_SUFFIX SHARE_INSTALL_PREFIX SYSCONF_INSTALL_DIR -- Build files have been written to: /usr/src/RPM/BUILD/thedarkmod-2.11/x86_64-linux + cmake --build x86_64-linux --verbose --parallel 4 gmake: Entering directory '/usr/src/RPM/BUILD/thedarkmod-2.11/x86_64-linux' /usr/bin/cmake -P /usr/src/RPM/BUILD/thedarkmod-2.11/x86_64-linux/CMakeFiles/VerifyGlobs.cmake /usr/bin/cmake -S/usr/src/RPM/BUILD/thedarkmod-2.11 -B/usr/src/RPM/BUILD/thedarkmod-2.11/x86_64-linux --check-build-system CMakeFiles/Makefile.cmake 0 gmake: Leaving directory '/usr/src/RPM/BUILD/thedarkmod-2.11/x86_64-linux' gmake: Entering directory '/usr/src/RPM/BUILD/thedarkmod-2.11/x86_64-linux' /usr/bin/cmake -E cmake_progress_start /usr/src/RPM/BUILD/thedarkmod-2.11/x86_64-linux/CMakeFiles /usr/src/RPM/BUILD/thedarkmod-2.11/x86_64-linux//CMakeFiles/progress.marks gmake: Leaving directory '/usr/src/RPM/BUILD/thedarkmod-2.11/x86_64-linux' /usr/bin/gmake -f CMakeFiles/Makefile2 all /usr/bin/gmake -f CMakeFiles/TheDarkMod.dir/build.make CMakeFiles/TheDarkMod.dir/depend gmake[2]: Entering directory '/usr/src/RPM/BUILD/thedarkmod-2.11/x86_64-linux' [ 0%] Copying header /usr/bin/cmake -E copy_if_different /usr/src/RPM/BUILD/thedarkmod-2.11/idlib/precompiled.h /usr/src/RPM/BUILD/thedarkmod-2.11/x86_64-linux/TheDarkMod_pch/precompiled.h gmake[2]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/RPM/BUILD/thedarkmod-2.11/x86_64-linux' gmake[2]: Entering directory '/usr/src/RPM/BUILD/thedarkmod-2.11/x86_64-linux' [ 0%] Precompiling header /usr/bin/c++ @/usr/src/RPM/BUILD/thedarkmod-2.11/x86_64-linux/TheDarkMod_pch/compile_flags.rsp -x c++-header -o /usr/src/RPM/BUILD/thedarkmod-2.11/x86_64-linux/TheDarkMod_pch/precompiled.h.gch /usr/src/RPM/BUILD/thedarkmod-2.11/x86_64-linux/TheDarkMod_pch/precompiled.h In file included from /usr/src/RPM/BUILD/thedarkmod-2.11/idlib/bv/Bvh.h:19, from /usr/src/RPM/BUILD/thedarkmod-2.11/idlib/../renderer/Model.h:19, from /usr/src/RPM/BUILD/thedarkmod-2.11/x86_64-linux/TheDarkMod_pch/precompiled.h:75: /usr/src/RPM/BUILD/thedarkmod-2.11/idlib/bv/CircCone.h: In member function 'idCircCone& idCircCone::Transform(const idMat3&)': /usr/src/RPM/BUILD/thedarkmod-2.11/idlib/bv/CircCone.h:166:1: error: no return statement in function returning non-void [-Werror=return-type] 166 | } | ^ /usr/src/RPM/BUILD/thedarkmod-2.11/idlib/bv/CircCone.h: In member function 'idCircCone& idCircCone::Negate()': /usr/src/RPM/BUILD/thedarkmod-2.11/idlib/bv/CircCone.h:169:1: error: no return statement in function returning non-void [-Werror=return-type] 169 | } | ^ cc1plus: some warnings being treated as errors gmake[2]: *** [CMakeFiles/TheDarkMod.dir/build.make:80: TheDarkMod_pch/precompiled.h.gch] Error 1 gmake[2]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/RPM/BUILD/thedarkmod-2.11/x86_64-linux' gmake[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/Makefile2:82: CMakeFiles/TheDarkMod.dir/all] Error 2 gmake: *** [Makefile:91: all] Error 2 error: Bad exit status from /usr/src/tmp/rpm-tmp.8903 (%build) RPM build errors: Bad exit status from /usr/src/tmp/rpm-tmp.8903 (%build) Command exited with non-zero status 1 9.77user 1.88system 0:13.02elapsed 89%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 388056maxresident)k 181768inputs+834096outputs (127major+186554minor)pagefaults 0swaps It looks like the problem is in CircCone.h, I looked what exactly is there. ID_INLINE idCircCone &idCircCone::Transform( const idMat3 &rotation ) { axis = rotation * axis; } I'm not a programmer and don't understand how to fix this. For the test, I tried to build TDM version 2.10. is going, but this file is not there.

Horror themed fan mission - exploration of seemingly deserted keep in the middle of swamps. Spiders, undead, darkness. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the story about the fate of my family. My uncle, Ralph Mac Roberts, is the baron of a keep nestled deep within the Rahenaen marshes. It was once an important outpost tasked with guarding one of the few Builder roads that cross the marsh, but after the Inventor`s Guild built a system of nearby dams that flooded the whole land, the road closed and there was no longer anything to watch over anymore. The keep itself needed reinforcement against the raising water level and the trade routes become almost impassable, not only for the carriages but for lone couriers as well. There hadn`t been any messages coming from the keep for over a year and my father was about to assemble a caravan so he could go on an expedition to the keep himself. However, in the middle of the night before he was set to leave, a carrier pigeon landed on his windowsill. My father received the letter and read the apologies from my uncle and his family, excusing their long absence. As a way to make reparations for their extended silence, my uncle invited me to the keep to stay there for a fortnight or so. My uncle had instructed me to leave my horse three leagues away from the keep by the nearest charcoal burning hut and hike the remainder of the road on foot, as the trek through the marsh is treacherous for horses. The weather will be awful this time of year, but my father insists that I should go anyways to ensure that our relatives are okay. These plains become dreadfully deserted - to the point where you more expect to meet the dead than the living. And by the way - I think I`m lost. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Download link: https://1drv.ms/u/s!Aj1DVS465udZgVkXteBbr6cUxdPH Thanks: to the TDM team for great tools, and all the contributors for their assets, to betatesters: Amadeus, Bienie, Boiler's_hiss, Dragofer, Filizitas, Judith, nbohr1more, s.urfer, again to Amadeus for proofreading and text tweaks, and to all the players for their time! Few screenshots: http://forums.thedarkmod.com/topic/10003-so-what-are-you-working-on-right-now/?p=434716 http://forums.thedarkmod.com/topic/10003-so-what-are-you-working-on-right-now/?p=429558 http://forums.thedarkmod.com/topic/19886-fm-marsh-of-rahena-beta-testing/?p=434507 Enjoy! Walk-through !major spoilers! Finding a way across the marsh area: Getting inside: Bed objective: Light sources: Maps: Enemies: Room objective: Hut objective: Sealed objective: Gold: Key: Bodies:

Please help!! My cat stepped on the keyboard while I was playing and reduced the size of my game screen to a small window. Now the mouse is not working on it and it can only be minimized/maximized or closed if I press the windows key.Restarting my laptop do not resolve it and the cat refuses to make TDM work again.

Public release v1.7.6 (with Dark Mod support) is out. Improvements since the final beta 14 are: Fixed a few remaining bugs with zip/pk4 support. Game Versions window now properly displays TDM version. Import window no longer has a vestigial off-screen TDM field (because TDM doesn't need or support importing). Web search option is now disabled if an unknown/unsupported FM is selected. If an FM with an unknown or unsupported game type is selected, the messages in the tab area now no longer refer to Thief 3 ("Mod management is not supported for Thief: Deadly Shadows"). The full changelog can be viewed at the release link. The de facto official AngelLoader thread is here: https://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=149706 Bug reports, feature requests etc. are usually posted there. I'll continue following this thread though. Thanks everyone and enjoy!

Not so long ago I found what could make a pretty good profile picture and decided to try it out on these new forums. But I couldn't find a button anywhere that would let me change it. I asked on Discord and it seems Spooks also couldn't find anything anywhere. So I logged into an old alternative account and, lo and behold, that account has a button. This is on the first screen I get when I: 1) click on my account name in the top-right of the browser -> 2) click on 'profile'. Compared to my actual account: Are you also missing this button on your account? It'd be very much appreciated if that functionality could be restored to any of the affected accounts.

Thanks for the replies, gonna try those spoiler Tags again now for my short review (oh well it inserted one above my text now and I can't seem to delete it on mobile - this text editor is strange)

Just finished this mission and wow I gotta say in great honor to Grayman and of course the rest of the team picking it up, this was something I've never seen before in any other TDM mission, especially visually wise. I am so happy that grayson gave green light for other experienced mappers to finish his last mission. And what came out of this is really something special. I'll put my review in spoiler tags since I'm now referring to critical mission details. Edit - How do I put spoiler text here on mobile?? [spoiler] test [/spoiler][SPOILER] test [/SPOILER] [spoiler[spoiler [sfah

In TDM, as well as in other games, we find more or less complex mazes, and in order not to get lost it is advisable to go through it with some strategy, at least if there is not an Ariadne out there that provides us with the corresponding rope. There are algorithmics that allow us to find the exit in the shortest time, but this does not interest us, since we only want to pass to the exit without doing the same path 3 times (or more) A very simple trick, which takes us safely to the exit only requires, that we choose from the entrance, either the right wall or the left wall to which we follow consequently, Although this sometimes leads us in dead-end corridors, we turn around following the side of the chosen wall. This inevitably leads us to the exit, although not necessarily by the shortest route. It always works, even in real mazes in a garden or at a fair, no matter how complex it is. In this example I have chosen the right wall and it can be seen how I get to the exit, consequently following this wall. The same would happen with the left wall, although then the path would be somewhat different, but it would arrive the same at the exit. Not the shortes way, but without getting lost, if necessary, even blindfolded. You can win bets with this.

Good work! I enjoy short missions because things are nice and focused - you get in, you get out. Also I tend to do better with the loot amounts and I was able to get all the loot without too much trouble, which is rare for me. If I were to make a suggestion though - I found the intro briefing sequence a bit distracting because it was so obvious the narration was pitch-shifted to make a deeper voice. If you felt the original voice wasn't deep enough for your needs, I would either get someone on the forums to record it for you or just leave as is. That's my only real complaint and it's not even about the mission itself, so pretty good first start!

Okay, I had no idea, I have googled it up now and you are right, to my own surprise. Done, I´ve put some paragraphs which were previously not in spoiler tags into spoilers.

Thebigh is right. The pronunciation tripped me up too, but that is apparently how Leicester is pronounced. Also @TarhielI'm glad you are loving the FM but do you mind putting spoiler tags on your post please

I am pleased to announce the release of our new fan mission, The Hare in the Snare: Part 1 Mission type: City Missions + Inn/Tavern Description: People are being abducted off the streets and a Watch Captain requires the services of a thief to help him find out why. Download link (v1.0.2-release): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HYvM_u56wDB16uIlb7qgS_q3P24V69MO/view?usp=sharing Credits: Mapping and original characters: @Frost_Salamander Story, readables, custom models, voices and cinematics: @Kerry000 Menu title track produced and mixed by @JackFarmer with selected gigagooga sound samples Beta testers: @Cambridge Spy @Zerg Rush @Amadeus @Acolytesix @Lzocast @wesp5 @nbohr1more @Kerry000 @ate0ate @Wellingtoncrab @prjames Additional thanks: @Dragofer, @nbohr1moreand @peter_spyfor technical help @Springheel for the modules and tutorials @kingsalfor allowing @Kerry000to abuse his manbeast everyone else on Discord and the TDM forums who offered assistance Requirements and notes: This mission requires TDM 2.09. Earlier versions will probably work but you might see one or two missing models. You may experience some FPS drops in some areas with lower-end hardware. Mid-range and above should be fine. If you have issues, I highly recommend you use shadow maps instead of stencil (settings -> advanced -> shadows implementation). It makes a big difference. For 'Hard' and 'Expert' the light gem sensitivity has been increased by '1' (meaning easier for AI to detect you). Screenshots:

We will look at some of this stuff, but SPOILER tags, please!!!

I'd like to better understand what you want. The design of dragging bodies is to hold frob (key down) to drag and release frob (key up) to let go. That way it's impossible to walk away while unintentionally dragging a body. Plus, it's quick to grab and move several body limbs in rapid succession. This is thought to provide a better experience, especially for new players. Towards the beginning of this thread, I created a "tdm_frobhold_drag_body_behavior" cvar. https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/22198-feature-proposal-frob-to-use-world-item/&do=findComment&comment=487580 "tdm_frobhold_drag_body_behavior", default:"1" Which drag body behavior? 1 --- on frob key up, drop body (limb). 0 --- on second frob, drop body (limb), TDM v2.11 (and prior) behavior. That cvar was removed shortly afterwards, because it was said that it wasn't needed. With that cvar set to 0, a second frob would be required to let go of the body. Is that the behavior that you want? If so, I can add that cvar back. Also, I saw elsewhere that you want the ability to revert back to the old way. If you mean that all of the controls match TDM 2.11, that can be done with "tdm_frobhold_delay 0" and there will be a menu setting to disable it as well.