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I'm using the version from kcghost. I just tested and I can't see any difference inside the inventory. On the stats itself it doesn't show the different loot types (still seen in the inventory), but instead gives more info on stealth score. Edit: I see Dragofer made an updated version of his script. I have to check that out. Edit2: That version works: https://forums.thedarkmod.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=21272&key=02755164a3bed10498683771fe9a0453

Occlusion culling is not as easy as it looks. For instance, if you simply check entity's bbox against individual brushes, then most of the entities behind walls would pass the check because no individual brush covers a whole entity completely. Also, there are dozens thousand brushes on large maps, you cannot iterate through them naively. On the other hand, this is close to the concept of "antiportals". That's when mapper puts an "antiportal", ensuring that everything behind it is occluded, and the engine takes it into account whenever it works with portals. But this requires work from mapper, and I don't think it would provide much help. To get serious benefits, you need to recognize the whole wall consisting of many brushes as a single inpenetrable surface, at which point you necessarily have something really complicated. I thought about doing Umbra-like occlusion culling on brushes (with automatic portals and conservative rasterization inside), but I realized it's ton of work. There is always something else to do. By the way, the recent change is not about what player does not see, it's about what light don't see/hit. Just rendering a surface is very cheap because of depth prepass, but light interactions are costly with all the textures, soft shadows, etc. Realizing that you don't need light interaction on something you see is quite beneficial. The problem with original Doom 3 engine is that it basically lights up all objects within light volume. With the exception of static shadow-casting lights, portals are just ignored! I have expanded usage of portals to dynamic lights. It might sound funny, but there is still some room for improvement in this area...

I looked but didn't see this video posted in these forums. It's pretty cool.

It wasn't a "sacrifice", it was a deliberate decision. People wanted the game to be as close as possible to the original, including pixelated graphics. If you ask me, the former version based on the Unity engine looked and felt better. But, hey... I guess I'm not the right person to judge that, as I never played the original, and always found that the art style of System Shock 2 is much better anyway. This also illustrates the issue with community funded games: Too many cooks spoil the broth. In game design, you need freedom, not thousands of people who want you to do this and this and that. Just take a look at the Steam forums and see how all those wimps complain again about everything. Hopeless.

So giving it none of those tags, but making the AI invisible, silent, non-solid, and on a team neutral to everyone would not work? Oh well, it was a horrible inelegant idea anyway.

What I understood is that the idea of TDM was born from that it was unclear if T3 would get a level editor at the time. Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20050218173856/http://evilavatar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=268

This one is really essential: https://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138607 Should work fine with the GOG version.

https://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152224 There is a new mapping contest over on TTLG for the Thief: Deadly Shadows 20th Anniversary and the organizers were kind enough to include The Dark Mod along with all of the Thief games as an options for making a mission to submit as an entry. The deadline is a year from yesterday and the rules are pretty open. I recommend going to the original thread for the details but I will summarize here: Rules: - The mission(s) can be for Thief 1, Thief 2, Deadly Shadows or The Dark Mod. - Collaborations are allowed. - Contestants can use any custom resource they want, though TDM cannot use the Deadly Shadows resource pack. - Contestants can submit more than one mission. - Contestants can enter anonymously. - The mission(s) can be of any size. Using prefabs is allowed but the idea is this is a new mission and starting from an abandoned map or importing large areas from other maps is not allowed. Naturally this is on the honor system as we have no way of validating. Mission themes and contents: There is no requirement from a theme or story viewpoint, however contestants might consider that many players may expect or prefer missions to be celebratory of Thief: Deadly Shadows in this respect: castles, manors, museums, ruins inhabited by Pagans and the like, with a balance of magic versus technology. This is entirely up to the authors, though, to follow or not - it is just mentioned here as an FYI and, while individual voters may of course choose to vote higher or lower based on this on their own, it will not be a criteria used explicitly in voting or scoring. Deadline: May 25th, 2024 at 23:59 Pacific Time. See the TTLG thread for details on submissions and the voting process. Provided I can make the deadline I hope to participate. It would be nice to see the entire community do something together, and expressing our complicated relationship with this divisive game seems as good a pretext as any.

Game developers want 16-32 GB VRAM to work with now. They can't always count on these other features, especially on PCs. Having a large amount of VRAM is the easiest solution for reducing latency. Let me counter your DirectStorage idea with another idea: put an SSD inside consumer GPUs, i.e. the "SSG" concept that AMD launched to the professional market a few years ago. Putting a tiny 512 GB SSD inside graphics cards would be relatively cheap, hold the entirety of any video game, and the GPU could still work if it breaks. Just cache the entire game you're playing into the GPU (or everything the GPU wants). Everyone will ultimately want a slab of APU that contains 3D memory-storage, with the CPU, GPU, RAM, accelerators, etc. all together to limit latency. https://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-7600-269-usd-launch-navi-33-8-gb-tackles-nvidia-rtx-4060-1080p/ $270 is on the low end of RX 7600 price estimates (some people wanted $250 obviously). That's not bad for something that is presumably faster than an RX 6650 XT. There will be some complaints about price/performance not moving forward, but prices can drop below MSRP at some point. At this moment though, something like this 6750 XT for $320 soundly defeats the RX 7600, while supplies last. The RX 6700 10 GB is also a good option. If AMD later tosses a RX 7600 XT 16 GB onto the market for $350, then they won the "low-end GPU market" this generation. Edit: AMD did a last minute price drop on the RX 7600, $300 to $270. That 10% is enough to change it from kinda bad to kinda OK.

Thanks for the Vicuna link. I need to do more research on open source chatbot solutions. I have a couple of projects in the works that would benefit from a home grown language model, plus it would be good experience. Seeing what others have done with modest resources is good inspiration. Also I must admit I was wrong earlier in this thread about open source not being able to compete with big tech. It did not occur to me that big industrial model builders would be incentivized to gift their own models into the public domain in order to gain mind share with open source ecosystems that can out-innovate them on the application side. The upside for them is that they can effectively crowd source the R&D to turn their fancy tech demo into actually valuable products for the open market and for their own internal consumption. Google at least is taking that concept seriously. Lastly: The results of a couple of gpt-4s attempts are fascinating to me... I got some really interesting failure points, including a rare pattern hypnosis where it fell into a meaningless cycle of iterative modulus calculations. But I doubt you guys want to read 4 pages of that, so here's the beginning and the end. Note for anyone wondering what is going on, the root mistake is a heuristic error humans also make: assuming no one would ask a stupid question. Thus the pattern recognitions assumes we want the complex systematic solution for the closest hard problem... which is what it gives above. Moreover because the question is so minimal it actually half asses its answer here: ignoring the fact that it already knows next Easter falls on March 31, 2024 from reading online calendars! What's more, it has more than enough information in its memory to attempt the computus calculation (albeit unsuccessfully in every attempt I saw). Once again we see that context is king for LLMs. In fact we can even break it out of the faulty heuristic with a small change to the prompt:

Thanks for playing and the kind feedback re: the bugs: the brew tank is a new one - thanks for that. Will add it to the list for any future update. the bow: I think that's a TDM bug. I experienced it as well, but only the early days of developing the mission so I thought it had gone away, but I guess not: https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/21345-210-crashes-may-be-bow-frontend-acceleration-related/ the keys on the guard: never did get to the bottom of that one as I could never reproduce it.

Thanks! Hint for the safe code here: https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/21837-fan-mission-the-lieutenant-2-high-expectations-by-frost_salamander-20230424/&do=findComment&comment=485264 Actually, it's probably time I added these hints to the original post....

If I'm not mistaken, the voices are dubbed in, not created in real time, using ElevenLabs. But you could consider it a proof of concept. You can also consider it an ad for Inworld.ai because of the referral link.

I never realised Bill Gates was a member of these forums. Welcome to the community! I hope you enjoy The Dark Mod. Perhaps your Foundation could help pay for the server hosting or fund the development of some new features?

I saw that featured on Steam's homepage today and was intrigued. I liked the aesthetic. I didn't really understand the gameplay, but maybe I'll watch a few videos, since it sounds interesting. The concept of a procedural murder/crime & investigation sim sounds pretty fresh; it's a wonder we haven't seen something like it before.

Yeah, I'm sure gpt-4 is much better, but I don't have access yet. Meanwhile, in related news, I often notice writing errors in the news. This morning there was a glaring grammatical error in a bbc report about closures at an Ocado warehouse. I asked chat-gpt to ananlyse it and it failed to spot the clear error. I then exctracted the sentence and said can't you see the errror in this sentence. It said yes and apologised saying it was possible its evaluation of the whole article obscured the error. I then asked it to give two ways to fix the error which it did perfectly. I then asked it to provide a prompt that would get it proof-read articles both as a whole, then sentence by sentence, then report the result. It gave this: "Read the given article thoroughly to identify any errors that you can find. Once you have completed your initial read-through, analyze each sentence of the article one by one to identify any errors in grammar, spelling, punctuation, or logic. Note down all the errors you find in each sentence. Finally, merge the results of both steps to create a list of all the errors you found in the article as a whole, along with the specific sentence where each error was located."

Yes, I used control nets with a prompt describing the subject and style. There's also a seed number which by default is randomized, so each time you get slightly different results. When you get something that looks ok you can do some changes in editing program and then run it through img2img, again with a prompt. You can do inpainting where you mask the parts you want to alter. You can set weights that tell the program how strictly it should stick to the prompt or to the images that are used as the input. There are negative prompts too. Here are Cyberpunk concept art pieces that I converted using Stable Diffusion. It took quite a lot of work and manual editing. Original artwork by Marta Detlaff and Lea Leonowicz.

Right above you we have an example of AI-created/remastered textures. There's AI models being worked on for creating 3D models from text prompts, photographs, etc. That could be relevant to TDM since if it can be made in Blender, it can be imported into the game. Imagine using AI to create a gigantic cathedral, or even a city. Over a decade ago, Tels was working on Swift Mazes, a demo for procedurally generating TDM maps. I don't know how you would go about making an AI version of that concept, but anything's possible.

The original 1993 SMB movie was worked on by the creators of Max Headroom. They wanted it to be a cyberpunk "allusion" to the general Mario concept. Why were these folks given the SMB project? Because Nintendo wanted to somehow "appeal to teens and adults" and expand the audience so they gave the directive to Hollywood to come up with a "mature" way to tell a Mario story. The movie was in development after Sonic and Sega were positioning themselves as the more teen oriented platform and 3DO along with other "mature CD game consoles" were on the horizon. Nintendo didn't want to be relegated to be a "kids only" console (even though that designation would later help them maintain a stronghold in family console sales). Apparently, the draft script was amazing enough to generate interest from A list actors but the studio got cold feet and started rewriting the movie to be more and more juvenile and closer to the source material of the games ( and turned it into a big mess ). I don't think it requires hindsight to understand that even leading up to the release there were lots of poor decisions around the project. 1) Other Nintendo franchises such as Zelda and Metroid were better suited to a mature story line 2) There is no cogent way to make a "mature" story that involves a Plumber entering an alternate dimension to battle an anthropomorphic Dino-Turtle that speaks English and wants marry a human woman who is native to this same dimension 3) Using allegories to Mario game features such as replacing Bowser with a malevolent Bowser-AI in a William Gibson style mind-jacked internet ( while cool ) would violate the expectations of people looking forward to a movie adaptation and lead to disappoint regardless of the resultant movie 4) Cyberpunk fiction fans would be scratching their heads about why the protagonist is a plumber and why the antagonist AI \ Cyborgs, etc are in the form of Turtles, Dinos, and Mushrooms rather than reflecting the full diversity of possible Avatars 5) You have an amazing Cyberpunk script and A list actors enthusiastic to participate in it and you decide to murder the script with rewrites rather than rebranding the project as a new science fiction film and deferring the Mario film to another team who wants to write a from scratch faithful adaptation? You can sorta see how things all added-up to the final results but it is still pretty baffling that nobody caught the problems earlier in the process.

I totally agree, with the caveat that at that point in the story I don't think Garrett was ready to entertain a serious relationship with anyone. (Regardless of the major chemistry obviously going on between those characters.) In all the Thief games, but T2 most of all, G is in survival mode, which he does by trying to detach himself from all reactive emotion and external allegiance. Retreating completely into himself. A huge part of the brilliance of those 3 stories is that characterization, because in each game he tries to detach and there are always points where his detachment breaks down. Little climaxes where his true nobility or vulnerability shines through. It's only at the end of the third game that he, and he alone of all the Keepers, properly figures it out: the essence of balance is detachment... not from the world, but from oneself. If Victoria had survived, G definitely would have pursued a relationship with her during and after the third game. Probably it would be a rather untamed, chaotic affair, but fun to speculate about for sure, and I think they could eventually work out some sort of stable arrangement. Maybe a bridge-between-worlds sort of deal like Ashitaka and San at the end of the movie Princess Mononoke. As things happened instead, I think I agree with the contention that Garrett would have great difficulty ever kindling a similar connection to any mortal woman. I don't think its impossible though, particularly after G properly settles into his role as a sage of balance, post TDS. It would be a journey for him and not something I think could be handled well off-screen as it were. Might be fun fodder for some FMs though... Hell, back to topic, that in itself might be a fun spiritual/actual sequel concept. Play alternating missions as a cynical night blade pagan woman, and a saw-way-too-much-sh** and-totally-over-everything city thief turned yogi mystic. They reluctantly team up, rib each other, save each other from perils, stop an apocalypse, and finally discover to their surprise they are in love.

The current working title is just The Dark Campaign. If you want a little backstory, the idea of this campaign was to introduce all of the major districts and factions of Bridgeport, and give a lot of lore about what's happening in the city and the world. So in that sense it's meant as a kind of ... not official campaign, but the kind of campaign laying down a lot of lore, faction, and setting information on which people can build FMs. But then the story started taking on a life of its own. The concept is the Empire is at war with their neighbors Menoa. In this world, Menoa is an Islamic or Ottoman-like empire counterpart, the Ghazis, to the Catholic-like Builders. (I understand the more official concept of Menoa is different, but either my concept is just different or I'd pick some other empire to do the job.) At the start, the Menoans have Bridgeport surrounded in siege, with constant flaming boulders periodically raining down. So our protagonist Khursand is Pakdamani, which is a counterpart to Persian Zoroasters, with his homeland now fully occupied & harassed by the Menoan Ghazis, although his family has already lived in Bridgeport for several generations, also harassed by Builders but at least not killed or forced to convert (yet). So he's kind of a natural opportunist, no friend of either side, but he speaks both languages of the Empire and Menoans and is willing to work with whoever pays. So the first mission, Shadow of Opportunity, opens with the Menoan district of Bridgeport, where Khursand lives, being walled up into a kind of ghetto to contain them. You've got Menoan friends that want you to help their resistance from the inside, starting with you getting some city plans to the army outside. But as you're getting out, one of the guards they paid off double-crosses you and turns you into the Bridgeport forces. But rather than just executing you, the general gives you the alternative option to work as a double agent on their behalf to bring back intelligence on the Menoan army and do some sabotage on their behalf, which you don't have much choice but to accept. (They're also holding his uncle that raised him hostage.) The next mission has you making contact with the Menoan army and already trying to please both sides in a dangerous tightrope walk, and the story goes on from there.

Thanks for the replies, gonna try those spoiler Tags again now for my short review (oh well it inserted one above my text now and I can't seem to delete it on mobile - this text editor is strange)

Just finished this mission and wow I gotta say in great honor to Grayman and of course the rest of the team picking it up, this was something I've never seen before in any other TDM mission, especially visually wise. I am so happy that grayson gave green light for other experienced mappers to finish his last mission. And what came out of this is really something special. I'll put my review in spoiler tags since I'm now referring to critical mission details. Edit - How do I put spoiler text here on mobile?? [spoiler] test [/spoiler][SPOILER] test [/SPOILER] [spoiler[spoiler [sfah

You can try my alternative footstep sounds package which addressed the things you described together with a lot of other footstep sounds both for player and AI if you want to. https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/17631-new-footstep-sounds/

Mods can this moved again? @Acolytesix- can you make sure you post in the beta thread instead of this one please (this one is public, the beta thread is only for logged-in forum members): https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/21822-beta-testing-high-expectations/