I am a bit torn regarding the movie. Purely visual it was really, really great. I loved the salt crusted planet and the critters with the salt crytals in their fur. I also liked the use of light and dark to indicate the alignment of people. One scene that sticks in my head (although it was from episode VII) is the one with Kylo and Han Solo, wehere Han is in the light and Kylo also has some light in his backfround, but as he kills Han, the sun is completley consumed and Kylo goes full dark. There are more examples of great visuals in the film, so from an aesthetic view it was great. Also, the space battles were very well done. For the first time in a Star Wars movie you could actually see the shields (or at least theyr effect) around space ships, which I found quite nice. But then came the plot. I can only agree with most people here that the plot was very underwhelming and had a whole lot of wasted potential. I actually thought at first that they really go the "the balance between light and dark side is the solution"-way. And I would really have appreatiated it. In my opinion they already layed a lot of hints that it will go that way: I interpereted the "capitalism is bad" talk as a way to say "The alliance is not all good" and Finn's character as a way to say "Not all Stormtroopers are bad, they are just brainwashed". Luke understood that the Jedi way cannot be the right solution. So I thought the reason to burning the books was to leave behind the old ways of teaching the force and find new, better ones. Kylo teaming up with Rey would have been perfect for a force wielding couple that balance each other out (some kind of yin and yang thing). I thought this was the reason they were connected. But finally, they just decided to throw all these indications and opportunites over board and came back to the "light side is good; dark side is evil" scheme that we always had in Star Wars and that I find quite boring. Regarding Rey being a Mary Sue (as a non-native speaker I actually had to look up the term), I hope there will be an explanation. I don't really think that her parents were nobodies. Kylo could simply have said that to unsettle her. At least in that scene, I had the feeling that Kylo was not honest and just wanted to put Rey down, so I think there is still hope. The main disappointment for me was Snoke and the fact that there was absolutely no information about him. There were tons of theories, but apparently he was really just a plot insturment without any background. I hated that. I think Springheel makes a lot of good points, but there are a few I would like to comment on: Leya's space scene really was ridiculous. Although I have to admit that she did not fly. She floated in space and did not need to defy gravity. One could argue that she used a force push on herself (I am not sure if this is possible, but as the Jedi can also jump very high, which I explained for myself with a force push on themselves, it may not be impossible) or something like that. Still, it was unnecessary. I wanted to write that the Luke's illusion was not touched, but forgot about the dice he gave to Leya. On the other hand, that may have been a way of him saying to her "this is just an illusion". I would have to rewatch this scene. I immdedately noticed that his beard was shorter and not grey, which was another indication that he was only an illusion (another point for good visuals), but did not know why. In the fight he was never hit and he did not use his lightsaber to strike at Kylo (if I remember correctly), so apart from the dice, the illusion was not touched. This is a point that I actually found well done. The fact that he could create this illusion some thousand light years away, is something else... Rey's ability with the force is absolutely overpowered, but I still have some hope that they will explain why (although Snoke is an indication that they won't). In general, I think it is good to create new ways in which to use the force, but I also agree that it would be better to have some explanation. I don't think that Luke was out of character. It is true that it is not like him to want to kill Ben, but he is still just human and immediately regretted his decision. Unfortunately, by then it was already too late. I actually liked Luke's character in this movie. Still, it does not explain why he left a map if he did not want to be found. But that is less his character and more another plot hole / dismissed plot line. I don't think that they want to destroy heroism. They just want the universe to get more realistic. If you are in an army (or at least a militia) and you do not follow orders you will be demoted. Nobody questions Po's resolve (even the General with the purple hair, I forgot her name, is impressed by it), but his disobeying a direct order has to have consequences. Rey's decision to "help" Kylo is her hope to end the conflict in general, so I can understand that she pursues this goal instead of helping her friends in a fight. After she realises that she cannot end the conflict this way, she helps them out there. And not answering the distress call is also just realistic. It is a small force followed by a the first order. Most ships that could be sent by their allies would also be destroyed and would most likely draw ther First Order's attention on you. So the allies prefer to lay low and wait for another chance to attack. One that might have a better chance of success. However, I also was disappointed that Finn could not sacrifice himself (and by the reason even more so). For me it was neither a try to destroy heroism nor was it a try to be more realistic. It was a simple case of "we don't want a main character to die". And this takes out a lot of tension and fun, and is, in my opinion, plain boring. I completely agree with your points about dismissing plots that have been established and instead introducing new plots (and characters like Rose) that are completely unnecessary. But I acually found one point through which the Casino plot did accomplish something: Without it, the First Order would not have known about the cloaked ships. Still, it was far too long for the effect it had.