dbailey 2 Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) (avoiding thread necromancy here) We should get The Dark Mod on Steam Greenlight now that v2.0 is out. This was discussed a while ago, and the consensus seemed to be that we should wait until standalone was released. At this point, we need maximum exposure to get as many new people into FM creation as possible- think of the potential network effect. The sooner we get people involved, the more time they can spend honing their editor skills and contributing to the community. TDM is a quality game and would get a huge amount of attention- think "top ten F2P indie games on Steam" big. Edited December 10, 2013 by dbailey 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jon Irenicus 18 Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 You should make a poll.I for one, like things how they are. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RJFerret 270 Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 More potential content creation = very good IMO.Exposure to folks otherwise missing it = good too.Minimizing the game dwindling = good as well. Quote "The measure of a man's character is what he would do if he knew he never would be found out."- Baron Thomas Babington Macauley Link to post Share on other sites
Springheel 4630 Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 http://forums.thedarkmod.com/topic/14053-steam-greenlight/page__st__200 Quote TDM Missions: A Score to Settle * A Reputation to Uphold * A New Job * A Matter of Hours Video Series: Springheel's Modules * Speedbuild Challenge * New Mappers Workshop * Building Traps Link to post Share on other sites
AluminumHaste 1055 Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 This has been discussed to death. Quote I always assumed I'd taste like boot leather. Link to post Share on other sites
RJFerret 270 Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 Ah, so the necro poll results from a year ago were positive. Now it's the standalone future. Do these responses indicate such is already in process? Quote "The measure of a man's character is what he would do if he knew he never would be found out."- Baron Thomas Babington Macauley Link to post Share on other sites
stumpy 242 Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 probably not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
demagogue 1252 Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 So the most recent news AFAIK is that Baddcog indicated a willingness to be the frontman on this, at least to start a process & we can discuss issues with Steam from there, and IIRC most people seemed ok with that, but (and I think it's ok to publicly say this) the main thing holding him back at the present is the $100 fee. I personally think it's ok to have our fans contribute to this fee, and if people are interested in that they might announce it here. But others might disagree and they could say that here too. I know we have a general trend not to get money involved in things, but this is kind of a special, one-off case for a very specific thing. And I mean, if it's just the fee that's holding things back now, then I think we should at least get that collected so it's not an issue, and we can at least get a process started, or talk about it without the fee being at issue anymore. Then in the meantime we can still be discussing what issues people have. E.g., at present, we don't know to what extent we might have to change our package, or what it means for our current distribution (tdm_update.exe and in-game downloader), if we can keep that as is. Issues like that are things we might want to discuss with Steam, but I think we have to start a process to even get to that discussion. Quote What do you see when you turn out the light? I can't tell you but I know that it's mine. Link to post Share on other sites
dbailey 2 Posted December 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 I don't know about anyone else, but I'd be willing to contribute toward that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RJFerret 270 Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 So the most recent news AFAIK is that Baddcog indicated a willingness to be the frontman on this... Sweet! $10 from ten people? I've received way more entertainment value than that. I understand the reticence to involve money generally, but funds going elsewhere doesn't appear to have the same ramifications. However I would prioritize the pending possible new server hosting if finances are needed there first, currently in "stay tuned" status. Quote "The measure of a man's character is what he would do if he knew he never would be found out."- Baron Thomas Babington Macauley Link to post Share on other sites
Lex 14 Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Is there at least a steam-group to begin with? And no other costs beside 100$ fee? Quote How we speak depends on how we keep silent. Link to post Share on other sites
kyyrma 230 Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 I'd drop a few bucks on this if that is what it takes. Quote FMs: In a Time of Need, Breaking out the Fence, Exhumed Link to post Share on other sites
Moonbo 842 Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Same here. Quote But you should walk having internal dignity. Be a wonderful person who can dance pleasantly to the rhythm of the universe.-Sun Myung Moon My work blog: gfleisher.blogspot.com Link to post Share on other sites
Xarg 173 Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 Then in the meantime we can still be discussing what issues people have. E.g., at present, we don't know to what extent we might have to change our package, or what it means for our current distribution (tdm_update.exe and in-game downloader), if we can keep that as is. Issues like that are things we might want to discuss with Steam, but I think we have to start a process to even get to that discussion. Many games sold/released on Steam maintain their own external patching mechanisms (War Thunder and Planetside 2 are two f2p examples of that), so I don't imagine that would be too big of a deal. At the very least, the knowledge that it can and is being done from outside of the Steam umbrella would be valuable knowledge to have if any negotiations with Steam were entered into. Quote Intel Sandy Bridge i7 2600K @ 3.4ghz stock clocks 8gb Kingston 1600mhz CL8 XMP RAM stock frequency Sapphire Radeon HD7870 2GB FLeX GHz Edition @ stock @ 1920x1080 Link to post Share on other sites
stumpy 242 Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 (edited) there is a steam group "The Dark Mod (darkmod)", do a search for "the dark mod" to find it. Edited December 21, 2013 by stumpy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Praudmur 4 Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 I will gladly pay 10$-20$ for steam release! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Praudmur 4 Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Steam community page http://steamcommunity.com/groups/thedarkmod#announcements Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chakkman 382 Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 I don't know about anyone else, but I'd be willing to contribute toward that.Same here. Having TDM on Steam would benefit much to spread the word. Also the ease of installation and auto update process are great things to have. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Praudmur 4 Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 As i can see there is 5 people now. So we have 50 dollars to get it on steam)Can Baddcog post a message here and PM us with his PayPal email so we can sent money? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AluminumHaste 1055 Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 Man this is getting old lol 1 Quote I always assumed I'd taste like boot leather. Link to post Share on other sites
MacD11 10 Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 Man this is getting old lol How are we beating a dead horse? We just want to see TDM on steam, that's really it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AluminumHaste 1055 Posted December 29, 2013 Report Share Posted December 29, 2013 http://forums.thedarkmod.com/topic/14053-steam-greenlight/page__st__200 Quote I always assumed I'd taste like boot leather. Link to post Share on other sites
apostrophe 0 Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 I'd give 10 bucks, or 20 reais here, for it.Frequently, in mid game I think to myself, boy, and this is free. Maybe the boys deserve more than a mental or written thanks.Also, may attract more creativity from map-building-savvy players. Unless, you don't appreciate that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ezze 11 Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 Maybe the boys deserve more than a mental or written thanks.I fails to see how it is connected to Steam, a "donate" button should be fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RJFerret 270 Posted December 30, 2013 Report Share Posted December 30, 2013 I fails to see how it is connected to Steam, a "donate" button should be fine. There's a difference in motivation. And a significant difference in ramifications. Apples and oranges. The former broadens the audience, provides more exposure, the cost is incidental to the gift. The latter changes what is currently a labor of love, a hobby, a joy to work on, into a job, a task to be completed because of compensation, it brings monetary politics into it, and turns it into a burden. You see this time and again, projects excel until donations are accepted, then the entire tone changes and shortly thereafter it ends. Some express their appreciation by providing their own labor in whatever fashion they may, for many, talents lie in other places and monetary tokens put in other places may be beneficial. Think of memorial services where donations in the name of the deceased are requested in lieu of direct gifts. Conflating the two unrelated things just confuses matters. Quote "The measure of a man's character is what he would do if he knew he never would be found out."- Baron Thomas Babington Macauley Link to post Share on other sites
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