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#551 Atomica

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Posted 17 July 2018 - 08:22 AM

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#552 chakkman

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Posted 17 July 2018 - 08:26 AM

Yeah, also, don't forget that there isn't "one" Steam community. It really depends on the game. You won't find any Counterstrike pwner idiots on ArmA groups, for example. I'm pretty convinced of that.

 

Nothing against Counterstrike players. I think you know what i mean. ;)


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#553 Atomica

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Posted 17 July 2018 - 08:29 AM

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#554 wesp5

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Posted 17 July 2018 - 09:39 AM

Yeah as chakkman said while I was typing this (heh), discoverability would still work if someone was specifically looking for stealth games with appropriate tags and whatnot.

Yeah, but how many of those players of all Thief games don't know about TDM already? Also the people wanting everything on Steam are usually the worst technical speaking and can't do anything on their computer unless Steam does it for them. I know this from experience with my Bloodlines patch, each time there is a sale, there are dozends on new players not able to install an executable to the right place or check the readme for help! I wouldn't dare to think what they'd say to the TDM auto-updater or the mission downloader unless this has been included in a Steam workflow as well ;)...


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#555 Abusimplea

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Posted 17 July 2018 - 11:08 AM

Yeah, but how many of those players of all Thief games don't know about TDM already?

We will never know.

 

There might be players who would not touch the ole Thief games but would like TDM - if they would knew of its existence. I myself did play the old Thief games years later because i simply did not know of them. And i would not touch them now because they became too ugly over time (TDS might still be okay graphically but it has load zones and it has been left behind by TDMs gameplay).

Even the oldest TDM missions feature much better graphics and more advanced mechanics than the old Thief games. Even the new Thief is no match against TDM when it comes to level design and gameplay.

 

I stumbled upon the old Thief games by chance years after their release. after that i knew i was into stealth, so i actively searched for stealth games and started with TDM as it still required Doom 3.

But there might be other players who do not know how to find the gems yet. Maybe they do not even know, that they like to play stealth games - the AAA games often feature a heavily watered down take on the genre that might be more a chore than fun.

 

Beeing on Steam would certainly help some players find the gem they never knew they wanted. But i too don't think, it will happen. There still is the Youtube channel though...



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Posted 17 July 2018 - 11:23 AM

But there might be other players who do not know how to find the gems yet. Maybe they do not even know, that they like to play stealth games - the AAA games often feature a heavily watered down take on the genre that might be more a chore than fun.

If they don't know they love Stealth, Steam would not suggest TDM anyway. The last AAA game similar to TDM was the Dishonored series, in which stealth was not only possible but favored too! Is there any way to connect TDM with Dishonored on YouTube or elsewhere?



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Posted 18 July 2018 - 01:01 AM

Yeah, also, don't forget that there isn't "one" Steam community. It really depends on the game. You won't find any Counterstrike pwner idiots on ArmA groups, for example. I'm pretty convinced of that.

 

Nothing against Counterstrike players. I think you know what i mean. ;)

 

 

That is indeed true. But you'll sometimes get crossover from trolling folks since there's no barrier to posting wherever you like on whatever gaming discussion page you want in the Steam forums.

 

The general steam discussion pages though... oh boy. Those sections can make you lose your faith in humanity (or make me worry about what my kid might start posting once he's old enough to do so). :)

 

The worst are usually the highly competitive games such as Dota (and all other MOBA's), Counter Strike, maybe even Team Fortress 2 for the competitive part and basically all of the MMO's in existence.  

 

If however you were to look at cooperative games, yeah you still get bad people in Killing Floor, No More Room in Hell, Left 4 Dead. But the gameplay itself encourages cooperation and it's easier to kick inadequate people than to bother continuing. Also bad players in such games often just get swarmed and die early before doing any serious damage + team killing is usually off. If it's not off than there's a password.

 

And there's of course ArmA, Red Orchestra, Insurgency, Worms and whatnot but again, not exactly the place where toxic community comes in.

 

So, for the most part the new people that would check out The Dark Mod would just not be tech savvy for the most part. Maybe a little whiny but c'est la vie. 

A cool thing that comes to mind is how people continue making good things with mods and Steam Workshop to Gunpoint if we're focusing on stealth games on this matter.

 

Seeing though that TDM is on hiatus with Steam, nothing is lost and nothing is gained by not moving it forward. Life goes on.


Edited by Anderson, 18 July 2018 - 01:18 AM.

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