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I don't recall a system for noise masking. It sounds like it'd be a good idea, but when you get into the details you realize it'd be complicated to implement. It's not only noise that that goes into it, I think. E.g., a high register can cut through even a loud but low register rumble. And it's not like the .wav file even has data on the register of what it's playing. So either you have to add meta-data (which is insane), or you have to have a system to literally check pitch on the .wav data and paramaterize it in time to know when it's going to cut through what other parameters from other sounds. For that matter, it doesn't even have the data on the loudness either, so you'd have to get that off the file too and time the peaks with the "simultaneous" moment at arbitrary places in every other sound file correctly. And then position is going to matter independently for each AI. So it's not like you can have one computation that works the same for all AI. You'd have to compute the masking level for each one, and then you get into the expense you're mentioning. I know there was a long discussion about it in the internal forums, and probably on the public subforums too, but it's been so long ago now I can't even remember the gist of them. Anyway the main issue is I don't know if you'll find a champion that wants to work on it. But if you're really curious to see how it might work, you could always try your hand at coding & implementing it. Nothing beats a good demo to test an idea in action. And there's no better way to learn how to code than a little project like that. I always encourage people to try to implement an idea they have, whether or not it may be a good idea, just because it shows the power of an open source game. We fans can try anything we want and see if it works!

OK, I was able to finish the script. For it's usage, you need two things. The script (obiously ): ase_export_blend.py.txt This material file: blendtexture.mtr.txt The texture defined in the latter is textures/common/blend. It uses the caulk editor image as I didn't replaced that, but it does not behave like caulk. You only need it to apply the blending effect. It does not get exported and don't need to be shipped with your FMS that use those models. As explained earlier, blending textures consist out of two textures, where the first one is marked with VertexColor and the second one is marked with inverseVertexColor. It could be vice versa, too. But for reference let's assume it is like that. To apply the blending effect, you just need to texture the appropiate parts of the later model with your blending textures. Then create some brushes textured with the blend texture and place them in a way, that all vertices that should use the second texture are included in those brushes. Note that vertices are not neccessarely the same on patches as what you can select in DR. The amount of vertices a patch has, depends on the tesselation. Every corner point of a triangle is a vertex. Note also that the script takes the AABB, the axis-aligned bounding box into consideration for checking whether or not a vertex is inside those brushes. So don't rotate them. Once you are going to export your brushes/patches as a model, make sure that the blend-textured brushes are selected, too. I will post some examples in this thread so you can see how to use it. Enjoy!

DarkRadiant 3.6.0 is ready for download. What's new: Feature: Selection Focus (Ctrl-F) Feature: Add Radiant.findEntityByName script method Feature: Media Browser shows a thumbnail preview when selecting folders Feature: Map is remembering layer visibilities between loads Fixed: ModelDefs are shown in T-pose Fixed: Patch vertices are the wrong colour Fixed: Shader Clipboard source gets cleared on 'copy shader' operation Fixed: Nodes of hidden layers are still visible after loading the map Fixed: Can't close properties window Fixed: Merge Action rendering is broken Fixed: After using ToggleMainControl_Camera, the center panel is grey after restart Fixed: When using ToggleMainControl_Camera, arrow keys cannot be used to move the viewer Fixed: Property Panel not remembering undocked/closed tabs Fixed: Texture Tool not updating during manipulation Fixed: Orthoview ignores filters for surfaces in models Fixed: Blue dot when selecting one face removed Tweak: Conversation Editor: double-click opens selected conversation Tweak: Preference option to disable drag select in camera view Tweak: ESC key should clear the resource tree view filter text Tweak: New layers function: tooltip popup getting in the way Feature: Selection Focus (see video) Windows and Mac Downloads are available on Github: https://github.com/codereader/DarkRadiant/releases/tag/3.6.0 and of course linked from the website https://www.darkradiant.net Thanks to all the awesome people who keep using DarkRadiant to create Fan Missions - they are the main reason for me to keep going. Please report any bugs or feature requests here in these forums, following these guidelines: Bugs (including steps for reproduction) can go directly on the tracker. When unsure about a bug/issue, feel free to ask. If you run into a crash, please record a crashdump: Crashdump Instructions Feature requests should be suggested (and possibly discussed) here in these forums before they may be added to the tracker. The list of changes can be found on the our bugtracker changelog. Have fun mapping!

DarkRadiant 3.4.0 is ready for download. What's new: Feature: Allow Layers to be arranged into a Tree Fixed: Readable Editor displays "shader not found" in view Fixed: Undoing snap to grid with prefabs causes crash Fixed: Include doc in building instructions Fixed: Decal textures causes DR to crash - (textures/darkmod/decals/dirt/long_drip_pattern01) Fixed: Skin chooser: double click on materials list closes window Fixed: Selecting and deselecting a filtered child brush through layers leaves the brush selected Fixed: Material editor re-sorts stages on pasting image map resulting in wrong material stages list and wrong selected stage Fixed: Crash on start if engine path is choosen (Doom 3) Feature: Layers can now be arranged to form a hierarchy Windows and Mac Downloads are available on Github: https://github.com/codereader/DarkRadiant/releases/tag/3.4.0 and of course linked from the website https://www.darkradiant.net Thanks to all the awesome people who keep using DarkRadiant to create Fan Missions - they are the main reason for me to keep going. Please report any bugs or feature requests here in these forums, following these guidelines: Bugs (including steps for reproduction) can go directly on the tracker. When unsure about a bug/issue, feel free to ask. If you run into a crash, please record a crashdump: Crashdump Instructions Feature requests should be suggested (and possibly discussed) here in these forums before they may be added to the tracker. The list of changes can be found on the our bugtracker changelog. Have fun mapping!

I'm using the version from kcghost. I just tested and I can't see any difference inside the inventory. On the stats itself it doesn't show the different loot types (still seen in the inventory), but instead gives more info on stealth score. Edit: I see Dragofer made an updated version of his script. I have to check that out. Edit2: That version works: https://forums.thedarkmod.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=21272&key=02755164a3bed10498683771fe9a0453

DarkRadiant 3.5.0 is ready for download. What's new: Feature: More customisable layout, all windows and panes can be dragged and arranged Layouts like Embedded, Regular and Splitpane are superseded and have been removed Tweak: The LayerControlPanel's tooltip popup is now less annoying Tweak: Clarify distinction between Shadow render mode and other render modes Fixed: Show/hide Light Volumes for combined entities inconsistent Fixed: Currently applied particleDef not selected in Particle Selector Fixed: Layer visibility checkbox not reacting to double-clicks Fixed: Cannot toggle visibility of layers in Linux Fixed: Drag-and-dropping layers is not working in Linux Feature: Customisable Layout (click to see the videos) Windows and Mac Downloads are available on Github: https://github.com/codereader/DarkRadiant/releases/tag/3.5.0 and of course linked from the website https://www.darkradiant.net Thanks to all the awesome people who keep using DarkRadiant to create Fan Missions - they are the main reason for me to keep going. Please report any bugs or feature requests here in these forums, following these guidelines: Bugs (including steps for reproduction) can go directly on the tracker. When unsure about a bug/issue, feel free to ask. If you run into a crash, please record a crashdump: Crashdump Instructions Feature requests should be suggested (and possibly discussed) here in these forums before they may be added to the tracker. The list of changes can be found on the our bugtracker changelog. Have fun mapping!

I looked but didn't see this video posted in these forums. It's pretty cool.

The latest dev build (dev16629-10139) supports Wavefront OBJ format for static models. Some details: Model must consist only of triangles. Quads/polys will produce warnings and won't work properly. NURBS/lines/etc are ignored. Normals and texcoords are mandatory for all triangles, otherwise model loading will fail. Widely used extension for RGB vertex colors is supported (standard OBJ does not support vertex colors). TDM materials are referenced by "usemtl textures/test_obj/rock". Standard MTL files are not supported yet. Unlike LWO and ASE imports, which try to automatically merge close vertices, no postprocessing is done for a model in OBJ format. As far as I understand, it means less suffering with smoothing groups for instance. Also it means that loading OBJ model is very fast, even for a large model. The only downside thus far is that zipped LWO file can be smaller than zipped OBJ, but I don't have exact numbers yet (I'd be happy if someone can help me with it). Speaking of OBJ format, there are several pending questions: Should we support MTL format (common subset) in TDM engine? Or as import plugin in DarkRadiant? Should we support referencing part of OBJ file as model in TDM map? Is it common to export several LODs into one OBJ?

@stgatilov, you said, RE string comparisons: I'm unclear if you are referring just to changes you made in 2.11. I think equality testing of two strings (one of which is "text") was working and is a good and expected capability, and should be supported. Including against an empty string. I noticed in your bug activities that you did remove some comparisons with ... == "". I see you also removed string concatenation with "\". No problem, but does that mean multiline macros are no longer a thing? (If so, I'll need to change some examples) BTW, the series so far hasn't really tried to cover the 2.11 changes, since I figured it's a work in progress. But since you did a great deal of GUI work in July, perhaps it's stable enough to try to consider it. I see the logs listed in bugtracker, but don't have access to the private forum threads mentioned there: https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/20526-gui-refactoring/&do=findComment&comment=477179 https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/21535-order-of-evaluation-in-expressions-materials-and-gui/ (Nor do I have SVN currently set up on my newer machine, for changelogs from there.) Any place else I should look?

Announcing the Release of 'Requiem' for The Dark Mod! Download Download the latest version of the Dark Mod here: http://www.thedarkmo...wnload-the-mod/ Download the mission here: Mediafire: http://www.mediafire...u89/requiem.pk4 Southquarter: http://www.southquar...ons/requiem.pk4 Fidcal.com: http://www.fidcal.co...ons/requiem.pk4 Create a folder in your Dark Mod install with the path "darkmod/fms/requiem" and place the downloaded .pk4 file inside. When you load up The Dark Mod, the mission will appear on the "New Mission" page. Requiem can also be found directly using the in-game loader. Gameplay Notes While this mission is playable in TDM 1.8, for an optimal experience please download and play in TDM 2.0 (or higher). Most inventory items in the game can be dropped, so no need to carry them around after they are no longer of any use. Note that If you use noclip or other console commands while playing, there is a good chance that you will break the intended flow of gameplay. Credits Mapping and Readables: Gelo R. Fleisher Voice Acting: Goldwell Additional scripting: Obsttorte Additional textures and assets: Flanders, Sotha, Grayman, Springheel, Bikerdude, Obsttorte Additional map optimizations: Bikerdude Testers: Bikerdude, Obsttorte, Gnartsch, AluminumHaste, Baal, nbohr1more, PPoe Custom Soundtrack: Leonardo Badinella - http://leonardobadinella.com/ Additional Music: Lee Rosevere - http://freemusicarch...c/Lee_Rosevere/ Marianne Lihannah - http://www.funeralsinger.net/ Vox Vulgaris - http://www.last.fm/music/Vox+Vulgaris/ A note from the author Hi all. While I've been involved in indie game development for a while now, I'm first and foremost a writer. My most recent project has been a novella that tries to capture the visual feel and tone of the Thief series (you can find the link below). As I was writing, I found myself playing a lot of Thief and Dark Mod fan missions, and got to thinking that maybe I wanted to make one myself, as a companion piece to the book. When I finished up writing, I had a bit of down time and decided to take the plunge. Having never done any serious mapping before, my plan was to make a small mission that I could bang out in a month or two and call it a day. Well, as sometimes happens, the project got a little bit bigger than I had planned. Ten months, and lots of elbow grease later, Requiem is finally ready for you to play. I'd like to thank everyone who helped pitch in to help make Requiem come alive, from those who took the time to answer my many questions on the forums to those who actively contributed to the FM. I especially want to thank Bikerdude who served as my mapping mentor, and Obsttorte whose clever scripts really turned what was in my head into the game that you are playing. Above all, I want to thank you for downloading and playing Requiem; I hope you enjoy it. Links of Interest Author's Blog: http://gfleisher.blogspot.com/ Companion Novella (Amazon): http://www.amazon.co...k/dp/B00BYEW02M Companion Novella (Smashwords): http://www.smashword...oks/view/298956

It wasn't a "sacrifice", it was a deliberate decision. People wanted the game to be as close as possible to the original, including pixelated graphics. If you ask me, the former version based on the Unity engine looked and felt better. But, hey... I guess I'm not the right person to judge that, as I never played the original, and always found that the art style of System Shock 2 is much better anyway. This also illustrates the issue with community funded games: Too many cooks spoil the broth. In game design, you need freedom, not thousands of people who want you to do this and this and that. Just take a look at the Steam forums and see how all those wimps complain again about everything. Hopeless.

https://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152224 There is a new mapping contest over on TTLG for the Thief: Deadly Shadows 20th Anniversary and the organizers were kind enough to include The Dark Mod along with all of the Thief games as an options for making a mission to submit as an entry. The deadline is a year from yesterday and the rules are pretty open. I recommend going to the original thread for the details but I will summarize here: Rules: - The mission(s) can be for Thief 1, Thief 2, Deadly Shadows or The Dark Mod. - Collaborations are allowed. - Contestants can use any custom resource they want, though TDM cannot use the Deadly Shadows resource pack. - Contestants can submit more than one mission. - Contestants can enter anonymously. - The mission(s) can be of any size. Using prefabs is allowed but the idea is this is a new mission and starting from an abandoned map or importing large areas from other maps is not allowed. Naturally this is on the honor system as we have no way of validating. Mission themes and contents: There is no requirement from a theme or story viewpoint, however contestants might consider that many players may expect or prefer missions to be celebratory of Thief: Deadly Shadows in this respect: castles, manors, museums, ruins inhabited by Pagans and the like, with a balance of magic versus technology. This is entirely up to the authors, though, to follow or not - it is just mentioned here as an FYI and, while individual voters may of course choose to vote higher or lower based on this on their own, it will not be a criteria used explicitly in voting or scoring. Deadline: May 25th, 2024 at 23:59 Pacific Time. See the TTLG thread for details on submissions and the voting process. Provided I can make the deadline I hope to participate. It would be nice to see the entire community do something together, and expressing our complicated relationship with this divisive game seems as good a pretext as any.

What I understood is that the idea of TDM was born from that it was unclear if T3 would get a level editor at the time. Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20050218173856/http://evilavatar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=268

This one is really essential: https://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138607 Should work fine with the GOG version.

DarkRadiant 2.14.0 is ready for download. This release focused on DarkRadiant's texturing abilities, the Texture Tool and some of the Surface Inspector algorithms have been completely rewritten. A new model importer UI has been added with the ability to convert FBX models into a format compatible to the game (it can also convert LWO, ASE and OBJ models). The EntityInspector can now deal with more than one selected entities, showing the shared key values in the list. Copy/Paste Textures across angled faces: Texture Tool Rotate Tool (use "R" hotkey to switch) Surface Inspector Harmonise Scale / Linked Scaling Surface Inspector Normalise EntityInspector Multi-Selection Support For more things that have changed or fixed, see the list below. Windows and Mac Downloads are available on Github: https://github.com/codereader/DarkRadiant/releases/tag/2.14.0 and of course linked from the website https://www.darkradiant.net Thanks go out to all who helped testing this release! Please report any bugs or feature requests here in these forums, following these guidelines: Bugs (including steps for reproduction) can go directly on the tracker. When unsure about a bug/issue, feel free to ask. If you run into a crash, please record a crashdump: Crashdump Instructions Feature requests should be suggested (and possibly discussed) here in these forums before they may be added to the tracker. Changes since 2.13.0 Feature: Texture Tool Improvements Feature: Texture Tool: Add Manipulation Panel to shift/scale/rotate selection Feature: Show shared keyvalues when multiple entities are selected Feature: Texture Browser Filter: match multiple words (using 'AND' logic) Feature: Skin Chooser shows materials of the model Feature: Surface Inspector: Add buttons to harmonise Horizontal and Vertical scale values Feature: Improved pasting textures to angled faces sharing an edge Feature: XY view zoom is centered at cursor Feature: Texture Tool: Constrain operations to axes by holding down Shift Feature: Texture Tools: rotate function Feature: Texture Tool: UI contrast Feature: Model Conversion UI Feature: Add FBX model importer Feature: add IQM format support into lib/picomodel Feature: Spawnarg type icon not shown for inherited properties Improvement: New Game Connection GUI Improvement: "Replace Selection with exported Model" preserves spawnargs Improvement: automatically reload exported models Improvement: Search function: don't start searching while still typing Improvement: MediaBrowser toolbar: clear filter text when texture is selected through MMB or Texture Browser Improvement: Merge "Create player start" and "Move player start" options Improvement: Patch Texture Rotation should take aspect ratio into account Improvement: Texture Tool: use aspect ratio of material Improvement: Step-rotating textures through the Surface Inspector should be using the center as pivot Improvement: Surface Inspector: Option to change horizontal and vertical scale values proportionally Improvement: Apply textures to surfaces using "normalized" scaling. Improvement: Normalise button brings texture coordinates closer to 0,0 Improvement: Prevent Texture Tool "face jump" on rescaling textures Improvement: Move modifier hints out of the status bar Improvement: Flip Texture: Prevent huge face UV coordinate translations Improvement: Double click on list elements should auto-close dialogs Improvement: Texture Tool: Select items by clicking the UV space they cover Improvement: Texture Tool: Grid lines are getting too dense when zooming out a lot Improvement: Texture Tool: intercept keystrokes for grid resizing & snap to grid Improvement: Model Exporter: warn if Output Format and extension in File Path don't match Improvement: Change Quake3 map exporter to write "legacy" brush syntax Fixed: Q3 Legacy BrushDef parser sometime produce some wrong texture rotation Fixed: "Replace Selection with exported Model" assigns result to Default layer Fixed: All scene graphs connect to the same undo system, causing interference Fixed: Remove Floating Layout Fixed: EntityInspector allows to set an entity's name to an empty value Fixed: modelDefs folder starts expanded after changing selection Fixed: Particle Editor: wireframe does not render Fixed: Drag-select while in texture tool window gets stuck. Fixed: Some brushes change shape or disappear when rotated or duplicated Fixed: Texture Tool: drag operation doesn't capture the mouse Fixed: Ctrl-S does not work when focus is on inputs Fixed: Autosave filename unhelpfully overwrites 'save copy as' filename Fixed: Merge Maps: can't hide changed entities/primitives Fixed: Merge Maps: can't center orthoview/camera on changed entities Fixed: Merge Maps UI remains if DR is closed while a merge is in progress Fixed: Merge Maps: "Details" text doesn't use full width of window Fixed: Brushes colour schemes not saving Fixed: Fit Texture fields do not allow values below 1.0 Fixed: PatchDefExporter: do not write trailing white space after shader name Fixed: LWO2 Model Exporter doesn't write vertex colours Fixed: Objective components not correctly renumbered after removing a component Fixed: Applying a skin to a model entity no longer works under 2.14pre1 Fixed: Spawnarg types and tooltips not reliably inherited in entityDefs Fixed: Crash when saving map or prefab without a file extension Fixed: Texture Tool crashes when creating a new brush Fixed: "Texture tool" grid cannot decrease under 1 Fixed: Texture Tool: dragged vertices snap to grid even though it's switched off Fixed: Sound chooser not pre-selecting the inherited value of snd_* keys of an entity Fixed: User Guide (Local) doesn't work Fixed: Restore GL_LINEAR_MIPMAP_LINEAR texture filtering Fixed: Objective components not correctly renumbered after removing a component Tweak: Surface Inspector vertical shift / vertical scale arrows Tweak: Surface Inspector's minimum width is too large The list of changes can be found on the our bugtracker changelog. Have fun mapping!

So I updated to the latest 2.08 beta and went through the assets again. Good news is that the werebeast is all there now. But here's some assets that are showing up a lil funky for me: 1) atdm:ai_manbeast & atdm:ai_manbeast_spear_thrower 2) models/darkmod/junk/dirt_edge02_grass.lwo 3) models/darkmod/loot/jewellery/lionhead_amulet.lwo 4) models/darkmod/nature/boom_shroom_flider.ase (I think this is an old one but thought i'd add it in anyway) 5) models/darkmod/weapons/volta_spear.ASE 6) models/darkmod/weapons/volta_spear_broken_shaft.ASE 7) models/darkmod/weapons/volta_spear_broken_tip.ASE 8 ) models/darkmod/weapons/volta_spear_bundle.ASE 9) models/darkmod/wearables/headgear/broadbrim_hat.lwo

I have returned to TheDarkMod after a few years (I played it a lot around 2015-16, even tried making a map, it did not go anywhere so I donated those few assets). The missions are great. In this one in particular, the navigation is awesome. The city is very good. I have noticed a trend though: the puzzles are more complicated; a lever may open something *somewhere*. Do you think that large TDM missions are suffering from "puzzle creep", that the veteran and in-community players do not notice? [/spoiler] So you have to go *all the way back* to use the crystal key on the teleporter thingy? And I don't know how to deal with the burning crystals either. I ended up killing nearly all enemies in the mages' place, with sword and holy water, because, yeah, I need to figure things out and I can't be bothered to stealth from one place to another anymore, lol. I will try checking the readables and environment with a bit more patience and see. [spoiler] The old format for spoiler tags does not work, not does changing the '/'. Wow, what a way to advertise "I am dumb" XD IMO the best way is to place gradual spoilers in the forum thread. I know it's a bit of a burden on the authors but answering 20 questions disjointly from different users is one as well.

Personally I think Moonbo's Requiem FM is about as good as one could wish for in terms of a spiritual successor to the Thief trilogy. The story hits all the important notes, and the level design is uniformly top notch across all the expected axes of stealth gameplay. And there is even a sequel that trailblazes entirely new territory from its predecessor in gameplay, story, and tone. That's just icing on the cake. Indeed there several FMs for TDM that I believe equal or even surpass the quality of the original games' levels. The trouble is how do you discover them in that giant downloader list? Are there other great missions in there that I have yet to find? That is undoubtedly the greatest current weakness of this project. The ability to sort FMs in the game client (i.e. both the downloader and the mission launcher) by date, size, and author would be a great help. Search by keywords or tags and support for grouping missions into collections would also be very useful.

OK, I'll try to rearrange to that directory layout. I'll have to lookup how to do that without screwing up Tortoise. I'm not on that machine at the moment, so I can't check your BTW. I don't remember about "branches", but I do remember a local "tags" directory... don't know if it was populated.

Ideally, you should have checked out "trunk" directory only, so that its contents get into "tdm11dev/darkmod_src" instead of "tdm11dev/darkmod_src/trunk". Do you BTW have all the "branches" and "tags" directories near "trunk" ? Maybe not, because they are still closed for public for some weird reason...