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Welcome to the Dark Mod forums MarsManon! Thank you very much for the kind words about SLL, it's always nice to hear We all worked real hard on bringing Grayman's map to life and I'm glad you enjoyed it

There is no dedicated article for it, but, it's covered in quite a lot of articles, including the "The Dark Mod Gameplay" article, which is surely one of the starting points for new players: https://wiki.thedarkmod.com/index.php?search=lightgem&title=Special%3ASearch&profile=default&fulltext=1 It's also pretty straight forward anyway?

Now that we have a solution to give text a black outline, I don't think there is any pressing need to make the background cap it's brightness below the text brightness. That said, I think the background still helps reduce the visual noise ( for example, if the text were rendering over stripes or dots of dark and light, brightly lit vegetation, etc ). I think we should have both the black outline and darkened background... and the background alpha should be bumped to 0.6 so it's a smidge darker to handle the worse case areas. Example: tdm_subtitles_message.gui.txt tdm_subtitles_common.gui.txt

Hi, Ive been taffing away for years but have taken a forced hiatus, due to some over zealous hammers, but am now back. Anyway Im having some issues installing The Dark Mod and last night tryied twice but both times failed with missing 'chunks' ? or some error similair. Toaday it seems to be going along ok , 27 mins left but i notice on task manager that it keeps hanging ! Not Responding !!! but a few seconds pass and its flicks to Responding again, but this is occuring every 10 secs or so... what gives ?

We are proud to announce the release of The Dark Mod 2.09! https://www.thedarkmod.com/posts/the-dark-mod-2-09-has-been-released/ TDM 2.09 marks a new phase of performance improvements aimed lowering CPU overhead in the graphics engine. A whole new graphic backend has been created by Cabalistic which uses modern OpenGL features to eliminate the need for the CPU to constantly issue commands to allow the Graphic Processor to render scenes. This gives TDM some of the performance advantages of rendering using a low level API like Vulkan. Stgatilov has been very busy this release cycle. He has put heroic efforts into improving the way that TDM upgrades and hosting operate in addition to the vast improvements to TDM itself. (He also refactored the entire particle engine and created a link system to connect TDM to Dark Radiant.) A full changelog can be viewed here, but some highlights include: Better performance: A brand new Backend that uses UBO, Persistent Mapping, Bindless textures, and Multi-Draw has been added. “Frontend Acceleration” (Multi-Core job based rendering based on Doom 3 BFG) now works as expected. Normal Map compression now uses RGTC resulting in lower storage, VRAM requirements, and less artifacts ( load times should improve in future TDM versions when pre-compressed RGTC textures are added ) Background texture loading has improved. This should shorten load times and reload. Better visuals: A new Sharpening Filter has been added. It can make 70% Render Scale look almost like native resolution (more performance). ( It also cleans up some blurry textures for all Render Scales. ) Bumpmap lighting is smoother, so that lighting does not instantly flip to off when getting close to edges of occluded objects. Particle physics have been substantially improved for both accuracy and performance. Borderless Fullscreen works properly on Windows. Water and other GUI effects that did not respond to Gamma now brighten properly. AMD and Intel fixes have been added for SSAO rendering Better gameplay: Experimental Gamepad support has been added. Creep works in alway-run mode Better mapping: A new linking system allows The Dark Mod to act as a real-time preview of Dark Radiant The redesigned particles now have improved setup and configuration. Automated fixes have been created for “rotation hacked” models Prefabs have been seen numerous fixes and reorganization to make them easier to use Better Sound: Conversation and other sounds are no longer stopped by saving or going to main menu. EFX reverb has been added to “Mission 1: A New Job” Extinguished gas lamps are no longer noisy when doused New Assets: Dragofer, LDAsh, Kingsal, Bikerdude, Dram have all added substantial asset updates ranging from updated Werebeast animations, animation of the steam engine, fireflies and new furniture. More stable: A huge number of fragile code areas have been overhauled to either fix crashes or prevent likely crashes due to risk of divide by zero, uninitialized values, or dangling pointers (leftover settings) on entities and functions. We recommend that you upgrade using the new “tdm_installer” available here. Please be aware that old saved games will not be compatible with 2.09, so finish any missions you might be in the middle of first!

Just wondering who the most infamous Necromancer is lorewise. Was there a founder in the art of Necromancy, like a Lich or something, similar to Nagash in Warhammer or the Lich King in Warcraft? Some sort of evil magician gathering power in a far off land, building his legions for a showdown with the Empire?

Of course, it is one of the reasons for the decline of online forums, since the advent of mobile phones. Forums on a mobile are a pain in the ass, but on the other hand, for certain things there are no real alternatives to forums, social networks cannot be with their sequential threads, where it is almost impossible to retrieve answers to a question that is asked. has done days ago. For devs for internal communication, the only thing offered is a collaborative app, such as System D (not to be confused with systemd). FOSS, free and anonymous registration, access further members only by invitation, full encrypted and private. https://www.system-d.org

A Problem Arises I've paused subtitling of the Lady02 vocal set, because of a problem with the voice clips described here: https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/21741-subtitles-possibilities-beyond-211/&do=findComment&comment=490151 While a way forward is being determined, I'll work on a different vocal set. Maybe manbeast, for which Kingsal just provided me the voice script.

The Lord of the Rings, The Return of the King won an absurd amount of Oscars as a reward for a superb three-part movie ride. Thief: The Dark Project, The Black Parade deserves a similar treatment as the leading vehicle of 25 years worth of Fan Mission content.

Or buy a used Geforce GTX 1060 for about 100 €, and you won't have any issues with The Dark Mod anymore.

Of course. I forgot about these. Here. Calling stod() with "TextureTool" throws an exception. #0 0x00007ffff66a5f91 in __cxxabiv1::__cxa_throw(void*, std::type_info*, void (*)(void*)) (obj=0x55555aedcef0, tinfo=0x7ffff6829198 <typeinfo for std::invalid_argument>, dest=0x7ffff66bd690 <std::invalid_argument::~invalid_argument()>) at /usr/src/debug/gcc/libstdc++-v3/libsupc++/eh_throw.cc:81 #1 0x00007ffff669c471 in std::__throw_invalid_argument(char const*) (__s=__s@entry=0x7fffebd70578 "stod") at /usr/src/debug/gcc/libstdc++-v3/src/c++11/functexcept.cc:78 #2 0x000055555571a247 in __gnu_cxx::__stoa<double, double, char>(double (*)(char const*, char**), char const*, char const*, unsigned long*) (__convf=0x7ffff6459470 <strtof64>, __name=0x7fffebd70578 "stod", __str=0x7fffffffc5c0 "TextureTool", __idx=0x0) at /usr/include/c++/12.2.0/ext/string_conversions.h:83 #3 0x00007fffeb917bee in std::__cxx11::stod(std::__cxx11::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > const&, unsigned long*) (__idx=0x0, __str=<optimized out>) at /usr/include/c++/12.2.0/bits/basic_string.h:4002 #4 string::convert<double, std::__cxx11::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > >(std::__cxx11::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > const&, double) (str="TextureTool", defaultVal=0) at /home/sebastian/.packages/darkradiant-debug-git/src/DarkRadiant/libs/string/convert.h:36 #5 cmd::Argument::Argument(std::__cxx11::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > const&) (this=0x7fffffffc610, str="TextureTool") at /home/sebastian/.packages/darkradiant-debug-git/src/DarkRadiant/include/icommandsystem.h:58 #6 0x00007fffeb915a37 in cmd::parseCommandString(std::__cxx11::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > const&) (input=<optimized out>) at /home/sebastian/.packages/darkradiant-debug-git/src/DarkRadiant/radiantcore/commandsystem/CommandSystem.cpp:322 #7 0x00007fffeb915dcd in cmd::CommandSystem::execute(std::__cxx11::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > const&) (this=0x555556394990, input=<optimized out>) at /home/sebastian/.packages/darkradiant-debug-git/src/DarkRadiant/radiantcore/commandsystem/CommandSystem.cpp:360 #8 0x00007fffeb9125cb in cmd::CommandSystem::executeCommand(std::__cxx11::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > const&, std::vector<cmd::Argument, std::allocator<cmd::Argument> > const&) (this=0x555556394990, name="ToggleTextureTool", args=std::vector of length 0, capacity 0) at /home/sebastian/.packages/darkradiant-debug-git/src/DarkRadiant/radiantcore/commandsystem/CommandSystem.cpp:382 #9 0x00007fffeb915df3 in cmd::CommandSystem::execute(std::__cxx11::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > const&) (this=0x555556394990, input=<optimized out>) at /home/sebastian/.packages/darkradiant-debug-git/src/DarkRadiant/radiantcore/commandsystem/CommandSystem.cpp:365 #10 0x00005555556e7d62 in ui::EventManager::handleKeyEvent(wxKeyEvent&) (this=<optimized out>, keyEvent=...) at /home/sebastian/.packages/darkradiant-debug-git/src/DarkRadiant/radiant/eventmanager/EventManager.cpp:683 #11 0x000055555570615e in ui::GlobalKeyEventFilter::handleAccelerator(wxKeyEvent&) (this=this@entry=0x555556c194a0, keyEvent=...) at /home/sebastian/.packages/darkradiant-debug-git/src/DarkRadiant/radiant/eventmanager/GlobalKeyEventFilter.cpp:166 #12 0x00005555557061c2 in ui::GlobalKeyEventFilter::FilterEvent(wxEvent&) (event=..., this=0x555556c194a0) at /home/sebastian/.packages/darkradiant-debug-git/src/DarkRadiant/radiant/eventmanager/GlobalKeyEventFilter.cpp:85 #13 ui::GlobalKeyEventFilter::FilterEvent(wxEvent&) (this=0x555556c194a0, event=...) at /home/sebastian/.packages/darkradiant-debug-git/src/DarkRadiant/radiant/eventmanager/GlobalKeyEventFilter.cpp:66 #14 0x00007ffff79862ad in wxEvtHandler::ProcessEvent(wxEvent&) () at /usr/lib/libwx_baseu-3.2.so.0 #15 0x00007ffff7986cdb in wxEvtHandler::SafelyProcessEvent(wxEvent&) () at /usr/lib/libwx_baseu-3.2.so.0

some like this kindof play type, this is more like the old D&D board games in playstyle (turn based) which i was not normally fond of myself but after getting used to it i dont find it all that distracting (gives you some time to ponder your next move). gfx are gorgeus and the characters in your party are quite fun (like waking up with a wamp about to bite your jugular then getting all kinds of flustered because you caught him in the act) . some can seem like real aholes like lae'zael untill you get to know her, others are secretive like shadowheart and can actually become quite dark if you dont play your cards right.

Hello, I'm trying to install The Dark Mod using the installer from here: https://www.thedarkmod.com/download-the-mod/ but it's taking forever to download the game. Is there some sort of a mirror or a torrent version? Thanks.

Yes, this is possible but there are a few things that make it a little impractical. 1) Models do not seal the void so you need BSP brushes behind or inside models to properly seal a map. As I recall, there are doom 3 and quake map exporters that can export your initial block-out geometry as standard brushes so you could do both modeling and brushwork in blender. You’d just have to do it in phases 2) Visportal placement is crucial to performance so you will need to ensure you blender models are cut at portal boundaries so that you can setup brushes and visportals at choke points to prevent rendering outside the player view area 3) model geometry is often too complex for the physics engine. You will need to make invisible clip models or clip brushes that use a more simplified structure to ensure AI pathing and overall collision physics perform well. 4) Models need to be split at light boundaries. If a single light touches a model the engine will do light geometry calculation for the whole model. If enough lights hit a large model it can severely impact performance. Brushes will auto-split on light boundaries but often split in less optimal locations so it has become the convention to use func_static geometry to force brushes to split in the preferred locations 5) blender has no knowledge of specialty brushes like fog volumes, water, SEED auto dispersal etc So it’s possible to do the majority of mapping in blender but ultimately you will need to use Dark Radiant to do the finishing touches The current paradigm is to create modular content in blender and then assemble the modules together in Dark Radiant along with bsp caulking and vidportal placement

Very impressive work, and I can't even imagine the workload to be done (readables, dialogs, monologs, briefings, new idle animations, etc.) apart from the not exactly easy mapping with DromEd (or however that's spelled). If someone had told me that they had been working just on Mission 2 for seven years, I would have believed it immediately. You can tell that the convoluted design of the original game was used as a reference, and I personally find it even more complex. It took me almost three hours to complete mission 2 on Expert. I'm now in mission 3 and everything is quite bright there...thankfully the Thief AI isn't that demanding...in the Dark Mod such an enlightened mission would be very "challenging" (to say the least) and would cause quite a few nervous breakdowns!

Black Parade is released ! https://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152429

I'd been chasing down a persistent and annoying leak without cause. The map had been fine this morning and compiled. Later had this going on. Every previous version I tried had the same problem. So in an attempt to solve it, I loaded TDM, loaded a different map, went back to my map, did a cleanup and then installed my map. Go to dmap my latest v162 not found, v161 gone, 160, 159, 158 etc etc check the folder and it's all gone, all folders, models, textures scrpts everything is gone! 3 weeks work lost and no explanation as to how it can do this???? I've been working for 4 to 6 hours a day for 3 weeks. OMG I've lost so much! How can TDM Do this????? I tried winfr data recovery but it always comes up empty, not really sure how that works. I used to be right up with DOS. Is there no way to get it back? This has to be fixed!!!

I definitely haven't noticed any difference on 144 Hz here... You should add your hardware details here though. Operating system, and computer specs. Also, the used The Dark Mod version, and fan mission you noticed the issues.

I tried the beta yesterday in the Training Mission. The new frob system is very nice. It's very easy now to pick up a body (obviously), and, the manipulation of limbs is easy as well (although it will surely take some time for me to get used to it, simply because I'm so used to the old system). Not so excited about some other changes. The leaning, for example, while improving the viewing angle of the player, feels a bit unrealistic. I know, the new system is closer to the one in the original game, but, I don't know if any of you tried to lean in real life. No way any human being could lean so wide, unless it's tied to a rubber band. I get it, gameplay isn't always about realism (actually, in most cases, it isn't), but, I think a game shouldn't feel too arcade-y, and, this definitely does feel arcade. And, I always liked Dark Mod for its rather realistic movement. Same with the new mantling. I don't know what you felt was wrong with the mantling before, but, this new, faster system just feels arcade. The mantling was already very quick compared to what a human is capable in real life, but, the new system even exaggerates that. Yes, it feels smooth and fast, but, I prefer a bit of realism. So, yeah, rather a 1 out of 3 out of the systems I mentioned which I feel like is an improvement. The leaning and mantling, I rather consider setback. I think this is, in general, a bit "bleeding edge" in terms of gameplay changes. I really didn't feel like mantling and leaning needed an improvement, for example, and, it might make a change for missions which were designed with the original gameplay.

Check this out: 1. It says my TDM Password has been leaked, but more importantly, 2. How does it know my Dark Mod password? Are they not encrypted??? 3. Noticed it picked up some of the passwords on my phone as well. WTF is going on here? How do they know this? Neon

Just updated to 2.09 from 2.08 and this is what I get after opening darkmodx64 icon. I updated as usual, I did not click on any advanced options. I tried to update again and got the same thing. Any ideas on what went wrong?

Body awareness please. https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/20013-are-you-gonna-add-this/

I loved it. Awesome game. I faceplanted at the people who asked for quest markers in the Steam forums there... Herr, lass Hirn regnen. The game is so great, and so true to the original, because it doesn't hold your hand. When is the new breed of gamers gonna learn.

Hey! With the Thief series the slow pace make them perfect games to play on the big screen with a controller, However TDM has a lot of keys to set up (like the original Thief) so mapping all the keys to a controller is a challenge and requires some compromises to be made. I've been playing with a Xbox360 controller for a while now, and think I have a good setup for TDM, with all or most of the functions mapped. For those interested, I thought I'd share it here, and ask for any input you guys have on what could be improved. The Dark Mod Xbox 360 Controller =============================== Main ==== LS: WASD movement LS Press: Crouch RS: Mouse look / Rotate (with manipulate) RS Press: Eyeglass A: Frob / Interact B: Use item X: Jump / Mantle Y: Lantern Dpad Up: Lean forward Dpad Down: Put away weapons Dpad Left: Lean left Dpad Right: Lean right LT: Parry / Manipulate RT: Attack RB: Change to Set 2 LB: Run Back: ESC Start: Objectives Set 2 ===== LS: WASD movement LS Press: Clear inventory RS: Mouse look / Rotate (with manipulate) RS Press: Drop inventory item Y: Cycle lockpicks X: Cycle keys A: Cycle maps B: Cycle readables Dpad Up: Previous weapon / Zoom Dpad Down: Next weapon / Zoom Dpad Left: Next inventory item Dpad Right: Previous inventory item LT: Shortsword RT: Blackjack LB: Creep RB: n/a Back: Quick load Start: Quick save And here is the profile itself. Copy+paste to a profile file, you know how it works of you use Xpadder: ;--- Xpadder Profile Data --- DataType=Profile Version=2013.07.18 Name=Thief The Dark Mod Set1Name=Main Set1StickDeadZones=92,64 Set1DPadMode=FourWay Set2Name=Set 2 Set2StickDeadZones=92,64 Set2DPadMode=FourWay Set1Button1Name=Frob/interact Set1Button1Slots=Right Mouse Button (2) Set1Button2Name=Use item Set1Button2Slots=Enter Set1Button3Name=Jump/Mantle Set1Button3Slots=Space Set1Button4Name=Lantern Set1Button4Slots=L Set1Button5Name=Creep Set1Button5Slots=Left Shift Set1Button6Name=To Set 2 Set1Button6SetSelect=1 Set1Button7Name=Menu Set1Button7Slots=Escape Set1Button8Name=Objectives Set1Button8Slots=O Set1Button9Name=Crouch Set1Button9Slots=X Set1Button10Name=Spyglass Set1Button10Slots=G Set1DPadUpName=Lean forward Set1DPadUpSlots=F Set1DPadRightName=Lean right Set1DPadRightSlots=E Set1DPadDownName=Put away weapon Set1DPadDownSlots=Back-Tick Set1DPadLeftName=Lean left Set1DPadLeftSlots=Q Set1Stick1UpName=Forward Set1Stick1UpSlots=W Set1Stick1RightName=Strafe right Set1Stick1RightSlots=D Set1Stick1DownName=Backward Set1Stick1DownSlots=S Set1Stick1LeftName=Strafe left Set1Stick1LeftSlots=A Set1Stick2UpSlots=Mouse Move Up Set1Stick2UpMouseSpeed=32 Set1Stick2RightSlots=Mouse Move Right Set1Stick2RightMouseSpeed=32 Set1Stick2DownSlots=Mouse Move Down Set1Stick2DownMouseSpeed=32 Set1Stick2LeftSlots=Mouse Move Left Set1Stick2LeftMouseSpeed=32 Set1TriggerLeftName=Parry/Manipulate Set1TriggerLeftSlots=Middle Mouse Button (3) Set1TriggerRightName=Attack Set1TriggerRightSlots=Left Mouse Button (1) Set2Button1Name=Toggle maps Set2Button1Slots=M Set2Button2Name=Toggle readables Set2Button2Slots=I Set2Button3Name=Toggle keys Set2Button3Slots=K Set2Button4Name=Toggle lockpicks Set2Button4Slots=P Set2Button5Name=Run Set2Button5Slots=Left Control Set2Button6SetSelect=0 Set2Button7Name=Quick load Set2Button7Slots=F9 Set2Button8Name=Quick save Set2Button8Slots=F4 Set2Button9Name=Clear inventory Set2Button9Slots=Back-Slash[uS]/Hash[uK] Set2Button10Name=Drop item Set2Button10Slots=R Set2DPadUpName=Prev. weapon Set2DPadUpSlots=Mouse Wheel Up Set2DPadRightName=Prev. inv. item Set2DPadRightSlots=Right Square Bracket Set2DPadDownName=Next weapon Set2DPadDownSlots=Mouse Wheel Down Set2DPadLeftName=Next inv. item Set2DPadLeftSlots=Left Square Bracket Set2Stick1UpName=Forward Set2Stick1UpSlots=W Set2Stick1RightName=Strafe right Set2Stick1RightSlots=D Set2Stick1DownName=Backward Set2Stick1DownSlots=S Set2Stick1LeftName=Strafe left Set2Stick1LeftSlots=A Set2Stick2UpSlots=Mouse Move Up Set2Stick2UpMouseSpeed=32 Set2Stick2RightSlots=Mouse Move Right Set2Stick2RightMouseSpeed=32 Set2Stick2DownSlots=Mouse Move Down Set2Stick2DownMouseSpeed=32 Set2Stick2LeftSlots=Mouse Move Left Set2Stick2LeftMouseSpeed=32 Set2Stick2UpRightSlots=5 Set2Stick2DownRightSlots=0 Set2Stick2DownLeftSlots=8 Set2Stick2UpLeftSlots=3 Set2TriggerLeftName=Sword Set2TriggerLeftSlots=2 Set2TriggerRightName=Blackjack Set2TriggerRightSlots=1 Any input is appreciated, and hope it is useful for people -Shadrach EDIT: Changed LB to Run, while Set 2 LB has Creep - figured after playing some more that Run+Jump needs to be possible and Creep is very rarely needed. There certainly are some missions where running jump is a necessity at some places.

Hello dear people of The Dark Mod A question about the code of this lovely game. Is every bits of The Dark Mod code open sourced? And under which license? If not all and every file, then which files are open and which not? A question I could probably find out myself but if you want you may answer: what engine do you use and how easy is it for newcomers to start working on code, assets etc? Does it have to be done through the community or can we also work on our own - Is it allowed to just download/copy code and start creating things for myself? And a side question: does the TDM community have a Discord server? Thank you for clarifying. Yours mouser