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  1. We didn't make the holidays (such a busy time of year) so here's a New Year's gift, an unusual little mission. Window of Opportunity Recover an item for a regretful trader out in a wilderness setting, and discover more! Available within the in-game mission downloader or: Download: http://www.thedarkmo...ndetails/?id=79 Alternative: https://drive.google...WTMzQXZtMVFBSG8 Some unorthodox gameplay on regular/ghost difficulties. (Arachnophobes might prefer short mode...) Please expect to need your lantern in regular and ghost modes! Short ("easy") mode is a smaller map, so if you are looking for areas others reference below, or 100% of the loot, you'll need to play on another mode. I wanted to create my first mission before I became influenced by too many others' ideas, and limited myself to what has been done before. As such, this mission is not set in a city/town, and has some features that are likely to be provocative. There's a section some really like, which others don't, either way I kept it short to not last too long. That being said, I hope you do find it fun! :-) Special thanks to those who provided valuable testing and feedback: Goldwell, Kyyrma, plotzzz, 161803398874989, PPoe & Bikerdude (who also contributed a sound). (Please remember spoiler tags to not expose things meant to be discovered by playing.) Like so: [spoiler]secrets[/spoiler] If you are having trouble finding the main objective, here's what to pay attention to in the mission for hints: There is a spot it's possible to get stuck on the ground in the corner by the cliff/rockfall where there's a rope laying on the ground, please take care if you poke around there!
  2. Beta 11 Fix finished-on state auto-update was unreliable Slighty improve scanner title/author detect Tags are now named some whatever regular-version-looking thing to force GitHub to put the newest at the top
  3. 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seta g_showBrass "1" seta g_showProjectilePct "0" seta g_showHud "1" seta g_showPlayerShadow "0" seta pm_air_regainingSpeed "4" seta pm_air "1800" seta pm_modelView "0" seta pm_thirdPersonDeath "0" seta pm_thirdPerson "0" seta pm_thirdPersonClip "1" seta pm_thirdPersonAngle "0" seta pm_thirdPersonHeight "0" seta pm_thirdPersonRange "80" seta pm_bobroll "0.0015" seta pm_bobpitch "0.001" seta pm_bobup "0.03" seta pm_runroll "0.003" seta pm_runpitch "0.001" seta pm_runbob "0.35" seta pm_walkbob "0.3" seta pm_crouchbob "0.2" seta pm_bboxwidth "32" seta pm_crouchrate "0.87" seta pm_deadviewheight "10" seta pm_deadheight "20" seta pm_normalviewheight "68" seta pm_normalheight "74" seta pm_crouchviewheight "34" seta pm_crouchheight "38" seta pm_maxviewpitch "89" seta pm_minviewpitch "-89" seta pm_noclipspeed "200" seta pm_walkspeed "70" seta pm_stepsize "16" seta pm_jumpheight "48" seta g_enablePortalSky "2" seta g_showcamerainfo "0" seta g_damageScale "1" seta g_decals "1" seta g_doubleVision "1" seta g_bloodEffects "1" seta g_projectileLights "1" seta g_muzzleFlash "1" seta gui_CenterY "0.5" seta gui_CenterX "0.5" seta gui_Height "1.0" seta gui_Width "1.0" seta ui_showGun "1" seta ui_autoSwitch "1" seta ui_team "Red" seta ui_skin "skins/characters/player/marine_mp" seta ui_name "Player" seta si_serverURL "" seta si_spectators "1" seta si_usePass "0" seta si_warmup "0" seta si_teamDamage "0" seta si_timeLimit "10" seta si_maxPlayers "4" seta si_map "game/mp/d3dm1" seta si_gameType "singleplayer" seta si_name "DOOM Server" seta tdm_lod_bias "2.0" seta tdm_voice_from_off_volume "0" seta tdm_voice_player_volume "0" seta tdm_music_volume "0" seta tdm_door_auto_open_on_unlock "1" seta tdm_bow_aimer "0" seta tdm_lp_debug_hud "0" seta tdm_lp_pawlow "0" seta tdm_lp_randomize "1" seta tdm_lp_auto_pick "0" seta tdm_lp_autopick_attempts "3" seta tdm_lp_pick_timeout "500" seta tdm_lp_sample_delay "10" seta tdm_lp_base_count "5" seta tdm_empty_model 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tdm_ai_sight_mag "1.0" seta tdm_ai_sight_prob "0.7" seta tdm_ai_showname "0" seta tdm_ai_showbark "0" seta tdm_ai_sndvol "0.0" seta tdm_player_wait_until_ready "1" seta com_automation_port "3879" seta gui_mediumFontLimit "0.30" seta gui_smallFontLimit "0.15" seta s_decompressionLimit "6" seta s_useHRTF "1" seta s_useEAXReverb "1" seta s_numberOfSpeakers "2" seta s_doorDistanceAdd "450" seta s_globalFraction "0.8" seta s_subFraction "0.75" seta s_playDefaultSound "0" seta s_volume_dB "0" seta s_meterTopTime "2000" seta s_reverse "0" seta s_spatializationDecay "2" seta s_maxSoundsPerShader "0" seta s_device "default" seta s_diffractionMax "10" seta r_useParallelAddModels "1" seta r_maxShadowMapLight "1000" seta r_postprocess_sharpness "1" seta r_postprocess_sharpen "1" seta r_postprocess_desaturation "0.00" seta r_postprocess_colorCorrectBias "0.0" seta r_postprocess_colorCorrection "5" seta r_postprocess_colorCurveBias "0.0" seta r_postprocess_brightness "1" seta r_postprocess_gamma 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/home/krovas/Archive/002_apps/thedarkmod/tdm_ai_humanoid_guards01.pk4 (378 fi les) /home/krovas/Archive/002_apps/thedarkmod/tdm_ai_humanoid_females01.pk4 (172 f iles) /home/krovas/Archive/002_apps/thedarkmod/tdm_ai_humanoid_builders01.pk4 (91 f iles) /home/krovas/Archive/002_apps/thedarkmod/tdm_ai_humanoid_beasts02.pk4 (229 fi les) /home/krovas/Archive/002_apps/thedarkmod/tdm_ai_humanoid_beasts01.pk4 (23 fil es) /home/krovas/Archive/002_apps/thedarkmod/tdm_ai_base01.pk4 (9 files) /home/krovas/Archive/002_apps/thedarkmod/tdm_ai_animals01.pk4 (82 files) File System Initialized. -------------------------------------- Couldn't open journal files /proc/cpuinfo CPU processors: 8 /proc/cpuinfo CPU logical cores: 16 ----- Initializing Decls ----- WARNING:file sound/tdm_sfx_world.sndshd, line 773: sound 'chime_hour' previousl y defined at sound/black_mage.sndshd:120 WARNING:file sound/tdm_sfx_world.sndshd, line 787: sound 'chime_15' previously defined at sound/black_mage.sndshd:134 WARNING:file sound/tdm_sfx_world.sndshd, line 801: sound 'chime_30' previously defined at sound/black_mage.sndshd:148 WARNING:file sound/tdm_sfx_world.sndshd, line 815: sound 'chime_45' previously defined at sound/black_mage.sndshd:162 WARNING:file sound/tdm_sfx_world.sndshd, line 829: sound 'chime_60' previously defined at sound/black_mage.sndshd:176 WARNING:file sound/video.sndshd, line 12: sound 'main' previously defined at so und/black_mage.sndshd:1 ------------------------------ /proc/cpuinfo CPU frequency: 2300 MHz I18N: SetLanguage: 'english'. I18N: Found no character remapping for english. I18N: 1277 strings read from strings/english.lang I18N: 'strings/fm/english.lang' not found. Couldn't exec editor.cfg - file does not exist. execing default.cfg Gamepad modifier button assigned to 6 execing Darkmod.cfg execing DarkmodKeybinds.cfg execing DarkmodPadbinds.cfg Gamepad modifier button assigned to 6 Couldn't exec autoexec.cfg - file does not exist. I18N: SetLanguage: 'english'. I18N: Found no character remapping for english. I18N: 1277 strings read from strings/english.lang I18N: 'strings/fm/english.lang' not found. ----- Initializing OpenAL ----- Setup OpenAL device and context OpenAL: found device 'ALSA Default' [ACTIVE] OpenAL: found device 'HDA NVidia, HDMI 0 (CARD=NVidia,DEV=3)' OpenAL: found device 'HDA NVidia, HDMI 1 (CARD=NVidia,DEV=7)' OpenAL: found device 'HDA NVidia, HDMI 2 (CARD=NVidia,DEV=8)' OpenAL: found device 'HDA NVidia, HDMI 3 (CARD=NVidia,DEV=9)' OpenAL: found device 'HDA NVidia, HDMI 4 (CARD=NVidia,DEV=10)' OpenAL: found device 'HDA NVidia, HDMI 5 (CARD=NVidia,DEV=11)' OpenAL: found device 'sof-hda-dsp, (CARD=sofhdadsp,DEV=0)' OpenAL: found device 'sof-hda-dsp, (CARD=sofhdadsp,DEV=1)' OpenAL: found device 'sof-hda-dsp, (CARD=sofhdadsp,DEV=3)' OpenAL: found device 'sof-hda-dsp, (CARD=sofhdadsp,DEV=4)' OpenAL: found device 'sof-hda-dsp, (CARD=sofhdadsp,DEV=5)' OpenAL: device 'ALSA Default' opened successfully OpenAL: HRTF is available OpenAL vendor: OpenAL Community OpenAL renderer: OpenAL Soft OpenAL version: 1.1 ALSOFT 1.19.1 OpenAL: found EFX extension OpenAL: HRTF is enabled (reason: 1 = ALC_HRTF_ENABLED_SOFT) OpenAL: found 256 hardware voices ----- Initializing OpenGL ----- Setup X display connection Using screen 0 of 0x60a2c00 display Initializing OpenGL display Using XFree86-VidModeExtension Version 2.2 Free86-VidModeExtension Activated at 1920x1080 Chosen visual: 0x021 ...creating GL context: core-fc ...initializing QGL ------- Input Initialization ------- XKB extension: compile time 0x1:0x0, runtime 0x1:0x0: OK XKB extension present on server ( 0x1:0x0 ) ------------------------------------ OpenGL vendor: Intel OpenGL renderer: Mesa Intel(R) UHD Graphics (TGL GT1) OpenGL version: 4.6 (Core Profile) Mesa 21.0.3 core Checking required OpenGL features... v - using GL_VERSION_3_3 v - using GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc v - using GLX_VERSION_1_4 Checking optional OpenGL extensions... v - using GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic maxTextureAnisotropy: 16.000000 v - using GL_ARB_stencil_texturing v - using GL_EXT_depth_bounds_test v - using GL_ARB_buffer_storage v - using GL_ARB_multi_draw_indirect v - using GL_ARB_vertex_attrib_binding X - GL_ARB_bindless_texture not found X - GL_ARB_compatibility not found v - using GL_KHR_debug Max active texture units in fragment shader: 32 Max combined texture units: 192 Max anti-aliasing samples: 16 Max geometry output vertices: 256 Max geometry output components: 1024 Max vertex attribs: 16 ---------- R_ReloadGLSLPrograms_f ----------- Linking GLSL program cubeMap ... 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WARNING:Compiling shader file stages/interaction/manylight.frag.glsl failed: 0:157(55): warning: `diffuse' used uninitialized 0:159(61): warning: `specular' used uninitialized 0:166(35): warning: `specular' used uninitialized 0:169(41): warning: `specular' used uninitialized 0:174(15): warning: `diffuse' used uninitialized 2:128(2): error: `return' with wrong type int, in function `UseShadowMap' retur ning float 0:229(56): warning: `specular' used uninitialized 0:233(54): warning: `specular' used uninitialized 0:233(66): warning: `diffuse' used uninitialized 0:250(71): warning: `diffuse' used uninitialized 0:262(7): warning: some implementations may not support implicit int -> uint co nversions for `&' operators; consider casting explicitly for portability File indexes: 0 - stages/interaction/manylight.frag.glsl 1 - stages/interaction/manylight.params.glsl 2 - stages/interaction/manylight.shadowmap.glsl WARNING:Failed to attach shader stages/interaction/manylight.frag.glsl to progr am manylight. Linking GLSL program manylight ... Linking GLSL program stencil_shadow ... Linking GLSL program shadow_map ... Font fonts/english/stone in size 12 not found, using size 24 instead. --------- Initializing Game ---------- The Dark Mod 2.09/64, linux-x86_64, code revision 9108 Build date: Feb 3 2021 Initializing event system ...842 event definitions Initializing class hierarchy ...172 classes, 1670528 bytes for event callbacks Initializing scripts ---------- Compile stats ---------- Memory usage: Strings: 47, 7920 bytes Statements: 20610, 824400 bytes Functions: 1274, 170724 bytes Variables: 93240 bytes Mem used: 2121016 bytes Static data: 4014424 bytes Allocated: 5142468 bytes Thread size: 7912 bytes Maximum object size: 884 Largest object type name: weapon_arrow ...6 aas types game initialized. -------------------------------------- Parsing material files Found 0 new mission packages. Found 14 mods in the FM folder. Parsed 14 mission declarations. No 'tdm_mapsequence.txt' file found for the current mod: black_mage -------- Initializing Session -------- Font fonts/english/mason_glow in size 12 not found, using size 48 instead. Font fonts/english/mason_glow in size 24 not found, using size 48 instead. Font fonts/english/mason in size 12 not found, using size 48 instead. Font fonts/english/mason in size 24 not found, using size 48 instead. session initialized -------------------------------------- --- Common Initialization Complete --- ------------- Warnings --------------- during The Dark Mod initialization... WARNING:Compiling shader file stages/interaction/manylight.frag.glsl failed: 0:157(55): warning: `diffuse' used uninitialized 0:159(61): warning: `specular' used uninitialized 0:166(35): warning: `specular' used uninitialized 0:169(41): warning: `specular' used uninitialized 0:174(15): warning: `diffuse' used uninitialized 2:128(2): error: `return' with wrong type int, in function `UseShadowMap' retur ning float 0:229(56): warning: `specular' used uninitialized 0:233(54): warning: `specular' used uninitialized 0:233(66): warning: `diffuse' used uninitialized 0:250(71): warning: `diffuse' used uninitialized 0:262(7): warning: some implementations may not support implicit int -> uint co nversions for `&' operators; consider casting explicitly for portability File indexes: 0 - stages/interaction/manylight.frag.glsl 1 - stages/interaction/manylight.params.glsl 2 - stages/interaction/manylight.shadowmap.glsl WARNING:Failed to attach shader stages/interaction/manylight.frag.glsl to progr am manylight. WARNING:file sound/tdm_sfx_world.sndshd, line 773: sound 'chime_hour' previousl y defined at sound/black_mage.sndshd:120 WARNING:file sound/tdm_sfx_world.sndshd, line 787: sound 'chime_15' previously defined at sound/black_mage.sndshd:134 WARNING:file sound/tdm_sfx_world.sndshd, line 801: sound 'chime_30' previously defined at sound/black_mage.sndshd:148 WARNING:file sound/tdm_sfx_world.sndshd, line 815: sound 'chime_45' previously defined at sound/black_mage.sndshd:162 WARNING:file sound/tdm_sfx_world.sndshd, line 829: sound 'chime_60' previously defined at sound/black_mage.sndshd:176 WARNING:file sound/video.sndshd, line 12: sound 'main' previously defined at so und/black_mage.sndshd:1 8 warnings pid: 36018 Async thread started Couldn't exec autocommands.cfg - file does not exist. reloading guis/mainmenu.gui. reloading guis/restart.gui. reloading guis/msg.gui. --------- Map Initialization --------- Map: tbm Linking GLSL program ambientEnvironment ... Linking GLSL program HeatHazeWithMaskAndDepth ... ------- Game Map Init SaveGame ------- ---------- Compile stats ---------- Memory usage: Strings: 48, 7960 bytes Statements: 22142, 885680 bytes Functions: 1324, 176644 bytes Variables: 98116 bytes Mem used: 2234368 bytes Static data: 4014424 bytes Allocated: 5194860 bytes Thread size: 7912 bytes collision data: 743 models 89233 vertices (2091 KB) 187358 edges (6586 KB) 96503 polygons (6932 KB) 5170 brushes (762 KB) 35083 nodes (1644 KB) 146356 polygon refs (2286 KB) 28595 brush refs (446 KB) 64253 internal edges 1324 sharp edges 0 contained polygons removed 0 polygons merged 20751 KB total memory used 210 msec to load collision data. map bounds are (10400.0, 8848.0, 5136.0) max clip sector is (325.0, 553.0, 642.0) 24 KB passage memory used to build PVS 2 msec to calculate PVS 122 areas 300 portals 15 areas visible on average 1 KB PVS data [Load AAS] loading maps/tbm.aas48 [Load AAS] loading maps/tbm.aas96 [Load AAS] loading maps/tbm.aas32 done. [Load AAS] loading maps/tbm.aas100 [Load AAS] loading maps/tbm.aas_rat [Load AAS] loading maps/tbm.aas_elemental done. Linking GLSL program heatHazeWithMaskAndDepth ... Linking GLSL program heatHazeWithDepth ... WARNING:Couldn't load sound 'gate_close200' using default [map entity: func_static_5900] [decl: gate_close200 in <implicit file>] [sound: gate_close200] WARNING:Couldn't load sound 'gate_open200' using default [map entity: func_static_5900] [decl: gate_open200 in <implicit file>] [sound: gate_open200] WARNING:Couldn't load sound 'nature_lava' using default [map entity: speaker_28] [decl: nature_lava in <implicit file>] [sound: nature_lava] WARNING:Couldn't load sound 'frob_secret_button' using default [map entity: SecretButton6] [decl: frob_secret_button in <implicit file>] [sound: frob_secret_button] WARNING:Image name "-" is too short WARNING:Couldn't load gui: 'guis/map_of.gui' Unknown token '}' WARNING:Couldn't load model: 'fms/black_mage/models/curved_beam.ase' (nor the f allback to LWO) WARNING:Couldn't load model: 'fms/black_mage/models/curved_beam.ase' (nor the f allback to LWO) No running thread for RestoreScriptObject(), creating new one. -------------------------------------- ----- idRenderModelManagerLocal::EndLevelLoad ----- New buffer size: 52636 kb New buffer size: 20995 kb Static vertex data ready New buffer size: 52636 kb Static index data ready New buffer size: 20995 kb 0 models purged from previous level, 1601 models kept. --------------------------------------------------- ----- idImageManager::EndLevelLoad ----- WARNING:Couldn't load image: textures/darkmod/metal/detailed/rivet_strip01_s [map entity: func_static_112] [model: models/darkmod/furniture/beds/builder_bed01.lwo] [decl: textures/darkmod/metal/detailed/rivet_strip01 in materials/tdm_metal_d etailed.mtr] [image: textures/darkmod/metal/detailed/rivet_strip01_s] WARNING:Couldn't load image: rope_belt [map entity: Amos] [decl: atdm:ai_builder_guard_rusted in def/tdm_ai_builder_guard.def] [decl: atdm:ai_builder_guard_rusted_unarmed in def/tdm_ai_builder_guard.def] [decl: tdm_ai_rusted_builder01 in def/tdm_ai_builder_guard.def] [model: models/md5/chars/builders/guard/rusted_builder.md5mesh] [decl: rope_belt in <implicit file>] [image: rope_belt] WARNING:Couldn't load image: arms_legs [map entity: Amos] [decl: atdm:ai_builder_guard_rusted in def/tdm_ai_builder_guard.def] [decl: atdm:ai_builder_guard_rusted_unarmed in def/tdm_ai_builder_guard.def] [decl: commoner/poor_dirty_ragged in skins/tdm_ai_townsfolk_commoner.skin] [decl: arms_legs in <implicit file>] [image: arms_legs] WARNING:Couldn't load image: belt [map entity: Amos] [decl: atdm:ai_builder_guard_rusted in def/tdm_ai_builder_guard.def] [decl: atdm:ai_builder_guard_rusted_unarmed in def/tdm_ai_builder_guard.def] [decl: commoner/poor_dirty_ragged in skins/tdm_ai_townsfolk_commoner.skin] [decl: belt in <implicit file>] [image: belt] WARNING:Couldn't load image: models/darkmod/wood/panels/panel_vase_painted_whit e_ns [map entity: func_static_1225] [decl: mansion_redwood in skins/tdm_models_architecture_modules.skin] [decl: models/darkmod/wood/panels/panel_vase_painted_white_ns in <implicit fi le>] [image: models/darkmod/wood/panels/panel_vase_painted_white_ns] WARNING:Couldn't load image: - [map entity: sausage_cake] [decl: atdm:static_custom_item in def/func.def] [decl: - in <implicit file>] [image: -] WARNING:Couldn't load image: tdm_tongue [map entity: servant_girl] [decl: atdm:ai_townsfolk_female in def/tdm_ai_townsfolk_female.def] [decl: atdm:ai_head_female02_base_brunette in def/tdm_ai_heads_springheel.def ] [decl: female_head02 in def/tdm_ai_heads_springheel.def] [model: models/md5/chars/heads/npcs/female_head02.md5mesh] [decl: tdm_tongue in <implicit file>] [image: tdm_tongue] WARNING:Couldn't load image: guis/assets/game_maps/map_of_icon [map entity: memory_sketch_1] [decl: atdm:map_of in def/tdm_shopitems.def] [decl: guis/assets/game_maps/map_of_icon in <implicit file>] [image: guis/assets/game_maps/map_of_icon] WARNING:Couldn't load image: makealpha( textures/glass/glass2) [map entity: func_static_1954] [model: models/darkmod/wearables/headgear/spectacles.ase] [decl: textures/glass/glass2_nvp in materials/tdm_glass.mtr] [image: makealpha( textures/glass/glass2)] 0 purged from previous 189 kept from previous 1627 new loaded all images loaded in 18.9 seconds ---------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------- ----- idSoundCache::EndLevelLoad ----- 314267k referenced 14004k purged ---------------------------------------- Loading EAX effect 'infoloc_outside' (#1) Loading EAX effect 'infoloc_courtyard' (#2) WARNING:alEffectf(AL_EAXREVERB_LATE_REVERB_DELAY, 0.360) failed: 0xa003 Loading EAX effect 'infoloc_corridor' (#3) Loading EAX effect 'infoloc_corridor2' (#4) Loading EAX effect 'infoloc_servants' (#5) Loading EAX effect 'infoloc_north_tower1' (#6) Loading EAX effect 'infoloc_gallery' (#7) Loading EAX effect 'infoloc_crypt' (#8) Loading EAX effect 'infoloc_lower_crypt' (#9) Loading EAX effect 'infoloc_north_tower2' (#10) Loading EAX effect 'infoloc_to_crypt' (#11) Loading EAX effect 'infoloc_pantry' (#12) Loading EAX effect 'infoloc_library' (#13) Loading EAX effect 'infoloc_workroom' (#14) Loading EAX effect 'infoloc_bedroom1' (#15) Loading EAX effect 'infoloc_bedroom2' (#16) Loading EAX effect 'infoloc_bath1' (#17) Loading EAX effect 'infoloc_bath2' (#18) Loading EAX effect 'infoloc_bath3' (#19) Loading EAX effect 'infoloc_jail' (#20) Loading EAX effect 'infoloc_barracks' (#21) Loading EAX effect 'infoloc_inside' (#22) Loading EAX effect 'infoloc_closet' (#23) Loading EAX effect 'infoloc_back_stairs' (#24) Loading EAX effect 'infoloc_south_tower4' (#25) Loading EAX effect 'infoloc_hallway2' (#26) Loading EAX effect 'infoloc_attic' (#27) Loading EAX effect 'cave_labyrinth' (#28) Loading EAX effect 'final_cave' (#29) Loading EAX effect 'lava_cave' (#30) Loading EAX effect 'infoloc_sarcophac' (#31) Loading EAX effect 'infoloc_lower_crypt_prison' (#32) Loading EAX effect 'infoloc_lower_crypt_prison2' (#33) Loading EAX effect 'infoloc_courtyard_mine' (#34) Loading EAX effect 'infoloc_courtyard_wall' (#35) Loading EAX effect 'cave_prison_corridor' (#36) Loading EAX effect 'cave_prison' (#37) sound: found efxs/tbm.efx ----------------------------------- 24591 msec to load tbm Interaction table generated: size = 72382/131072 Initial counts: 4334 entities 388 lightDefs 3354 entityDefs ------------- Warnings --------------- during tbm... WARNING:alEffectf(AL_EAXREVERB_LATE_REVERB_DELAY, 0.360) failed: 0xa003 WARNING:Couldn't load gui: 'guis/map_of.gui' WARNING:Couldn't load image: - WARNING:Couldn't load image: arms_legs WARNING:Couldn't load image: belt WARNING:Couldn't load image: guis/assets/game_maps/map_of_icon WARNING:Couldn't load image: makealpha( textures/glass/glass2) WARNING:Couldn't load image: models/darkmod/wood/panels/panel_vase_painted_whit e_ns WARNING:Couldn't load image: rope_belt WARNING:Couldn't load image: tdm_tongue WARNING:Couldn't load image: textures/darkmod/metal/detailed/rivet_strip01_s WARNING:Couldn't load model: 'fms/black_mage/models/curved_beam.ase' (nor the f allback to LWO) WARNING:Couldn't load sound 'frob_secret_button' using default WARNING:Couldn't load sound 'gate_close200' using default WARNING:Couldn't load sound 'gate_open200' using default WARNING:Couldn't load sound 'nature_lava' using default WARNING:Image name "-" is too short 17 warnings Switching to EFX 'infoloc_outside' (#1) Linking GLSL program ssao ... Linking GLSL program ssao_blur ... Linking GLSL program ssao_depth ... Linking GLSL program ssao_depth_mip ... Linking GLSL program ssao_show ... Linking GLSL program bloom_downsample ... Linking GLSL program bloom_downsample_brightpass ... Linking GLSL program bloom_blur ... Linking GLSL program bloom_upsample ... Linking GLSL program bloom_apply ... Restarting ambient sound snd_grounds'(outside_ambient) with volume 0 ]condump graphics_issue.txt Dumped console text to graphics_issue.txt.
  4. To cater to both audiences. I mentioned LibreGameWiki as one example. nbohr1more mentioned other uses. Explicitly allowing reuse and spread will help TDM reach a wider audience and would hopefully attract more volunteers. More volunteers which can help improve both TDM versions. There are several benefits for a project of being in the Debian repo. One is that TDM Debian-users can report defects on any package directly to Debian (no need to register on separate forums). Debian may then fix the issue themselves (in their "TDM-libre" package) and will offer the patch upstream to TDM, who can then choose to accept or reject the patch. I envision "TDM-libre" to have the same capability of downloading any mission as regular TDM. The only difference is that "TDM-libre" would come packaged with the regular engine (which is GPL+BSD) and an included mission that has libre media/gamedata. When I play TDM by myself, I want the unlimited-play and can accept commercial restrictions. But if I were to promote it somewhere, or charge for a stream when playing online, or make a video, I would want a version without commercial restrictions (and can temporarily accept limited-play) to make sure I don't violate anyone's copyright. Perhaps. That's what I'm trying to find out.
  5. I suggest you use the term "I", to make clear that it is something YOU want, and that you speak for yourself. But, as wesp5 mentioned, I don't really know what this is about, at all. And, I'm also wondering about all the newly registered people lately, who just arrived at this forum, and already want to revolutionize this mod. This is a thing I noticed 2 or 3 years ago, and which hasn't been present in the 15 years I play this mod and frequent these forums now. Really seems like a common thing these days, to not knock on the door, but kick it in, and stomp right in.
  6. If the "mission fails as soon as stealth score turns non-zero," that would not be good for ghost players. They might need to find out "how" they failed and experiment to avoid alerting guards. They might need to take those score points as a "bust". They might need to take those score points to complete an objective. Then, mission authors would need to encode exceptions into their missions, which would be a lot of work (if they decide to do it at all). However, part of what makes ghosting challenging and fun is when mission authors do not create their missions with ghosting in mind. Please see: Official Ghosting Rules: https://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148523 Writing code for these rules would be a huge undertaking. Ghost Rules Discussion: https://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148487 Creating an official mode could alienate these dedicated ghost players, because it would clash with what is considered ghosting in the community. Including the Stealth Stat Tool mod in the official release would be more useful. Or, making the audible alert states of guards quick and easy to recognize could help as well. For these reasons, I don't agree with an official "Ghost" mode. If the dev team were to do it, we should consult with @Klatremus so we get it 100% correct or not pursue it at all. (This ghosting bit should probably be in its own thread.)
  7. TDM has tons of textures from "free" texture resources that do not allow redistribution and cannot be incorporated into a commercial project. Someone would need to create a huge replacement pack of textures that do not break the look of existing missions and do not infringe on the copyrighted textures. Also, many artists who contributed to this project do not want 3rd party entities to use their work in commercial projects. They intended the models, textures, sounds, animations to be exclusively used for Darkmod content. You would either have to replace ALL assets or contact every contributor and ask them to re-license their assets. Many contributors are no longer active with the project and haven't visited the forums in years so it would be no easy feat. I cannot speak to Debian policy but I think that they treat installers that add non-free content the same as non-free content itself. One could argue that Steam is such an installer but I guess Debian would counter that there are a few fully Libre games on Steam. I think Debian, Ubuntu, or Linux Mint need to consider a repo that allows for games (etc) that include non-libre content but intentionally offer this content for free to the community with no stipulations other than "don't try to sell it as a product".
  8. The gamepad implementation allows for a great degree of flexibility to personalize settings, aside from a few minor issues that I mentioned here: https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/22337-gamepad-bindings/ I would say that playing TDM with a gamepad works very well, especially considering that it was implemented as experimental and hasn't been changed since then. If I could, I'd go back to 2021-you and congratulate you on buying that gamepad. I notice that your DarkmodPadbinds.cfg looks very different from mine...
  9. It seems like more and more "thief" and "thief players" is becoming a short hand to dismiss community members earnest desire to improve the game - which happens to be a barely legally distinct "thief style" game which was made by thief fans for thief fans and is "designed to simulate the stealth gameplay of Thief". Who is the predominant player base of the game supposed to be beyond fans of the thief games? Is there some better avenue to find feedback for the game beyond this forum? FOSS and linux forums? I have seen maybe half a dozen posts from that segment. I am a thief fan, I play thief fms, my association with those games is what drives me to play and make things for this game. Are we supposed to pretend the original games are not a huge reason why most of us are here at all? TL;DR version:
  10. Woo!! 2.10 Beta "Release Candidate" ( 210-07 ) is out:

    https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/21198-beta-testing-210/

    It wont be long now :) ...

  11. Thanks! 1) Doing LONG_PRESS PAD_A (what I, for lack of knowledge, call "jump-mantle" or "_jumpmantle") differs from doing PRESS PAD_A ("_jump"). "_jumpmantle" differs from "_mantle", so they must be mapped to different button-calls. "_jumpmantle" differs from "_jump", so they must also be mapped to different button-calls. This appears to be the case, but it is not evident (or changeable) in DarkmodPadbinds.cfg. "_jumpmantle" seems to be hard coded to always connect to the same button as "_jump" but with a long press. It is as if bindPadButton PRESS PAD_A "_jump" is not actually just binding PRESS PAD_A to "_jump", but rather interpreted as "link PAD_A (regardless of button press time) to behave exactly like keyboard SPACE for short and long presses". I would have expected the default DarkmodPadbinds.cfg to explicitly read: bindPadButton PRESS PAD_A "_jump" bindPadButton LONG_PRESS PAD_A "_jumpmantle" bindPadButton PRESS PAD_B "_crouch" bindPadButton LONG_PRESS PAD_B "_mantle" ... but neither LONG_PRESS PAD_A or "_jumpmantle" is listed in the file. If there are actions "_jump" and "_mantle", I suppose there must also be an action "_jumpmantle" since it is possible for the player to do all those movements: * "_mantle" does the movements "crouch on the high surface, then stand up" * "_jumpmantle" idoes the movements "jump slightly forward, then land standing on the high surface" * "_jump" idoes the movements "jump up, then land exactly where you started" If the actions "_jump" and "_moveup" are not synonymous, then perhaps the action "_moveup" is what i call "_jumpmantle"? 2) Thanks for the link! It was useful in more than one way. I'll link to that page from https://wiki.thedarkmod.com/index.php?title=Bindings_and_User_Settings#Gamepad_Default_Bindings if I can get an account on the wiki, which proved more difficult than i thought (https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/22327-how-can-i-create-an-account-on-the-tdm-wiki/). However, it does not answer my question how to find out the name ("<button>") used for a button on my gamepad. Basically, I would need to press the button on my gamepad and some program could tell me "That button is called 'PAD_A'". In my case, I have a gamepad "Logitech F310" (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Logitech_F310_Gamepad.jpg) which has a "Logitech button" (see image) that I want to use. I was hoping to find out the "button name" for that button and then edit DarkmodPadbinds.cfg to map it to a function. 3) ... but if that button has an "unusual name" that TDM does not recognize, then it may perhaps not work. E.g. if that button is called "PAD_LOGITECH" and TDM cannot recognize that name, then I cannot map anything to it via DarkmodPadbinds.cfg. Using QJoyPad I can map any keyboard key to it instead, as a workaround, but I cannot map MODIFIER to it (since MODIFIER cannot be set to a keyboard key). If current implementation is still called "experimental", then I must say it works very well; @cabalistic: kudos for that! I may not have continued playing TDM had it not worked with a gamepad.
  12. It is possible that this is a setting that needs to be activated to work: https://mantisbt.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23221
  13. I don't think there's a link to thedarkmod.com on forums.thedarkmod.com ...

    1. datiswous

      datiswous

      Yeah and the wiki and moddb. It should have those links in the footer I think. Probably easy to add by an admin.

      Edit: And a link to the bugtracker. I'm always searching for a post in the forum that links to that because I can't remember the url.

    2. Petike the Taffer

      Petike the Taffer

      I drew attention to this several times in the last few years. No one payed it any attention, so I just gave up.

    3. duzenko

      duzenko

      Reluctance to improve the forums is matched by reluctance to allow more people to work on it. Talk about trust and power.

  14. I am going to sort-of reveal that this is loosely like the nature of my upcoming mission. I noted it here when JackFarmer asked about things that are coming along in this post: https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/profile/37993-jackfarmer/&status=3943&type=status It too is a builder church. The player is requested by a hopefully famous character in another mission to handle some business that is affecting the congregation. I am looking to invoke some info and history laid down in other missions as a hook story.
  15. I created the page: https://wiki.thedarkmod.com/index.php?title=Lightgem In the source I placed the following text: <!-- Page text made by forum user Fiver: https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/22327-how-can-i-create-an-account-on-the-tdm-wiki/&do=findComment&comment=491145 --> Personally I think the page isn't really necessary because the info is already present under HUD.
  16. I dom't use it, i found it here with the filter set to OpenSource. the TOS and PP isn't excluding for an OpenSource app, if they use ads mean that they also need to pay an server for this online service. OpenSource is not synonymous with free either, perhaps after the beta phase it is no longer free, so perhaps you can take advantage of the fact that it is still free to create a series of textures that can be used or search another one in Futuretools. AI generated textures and assets, by definition, don't have any copyright, so you can use them as you want. https://www.futuretools.io/?pricing-model=free|open-source&tags-n5zn=gaming
  17. In the first post of the other topic Geep proposed: Then Stgatilov's answer: But I think applying subtitles in different languages shouldn't be too hard I would think, but I don't know how the current translation system works. The engine should apply the correct subtitles based on the applied language setting, this doesn't need a whole new language system I think. Not sure who's going to write those subtitles though. I can only do Dutch and English and nobody needs Dutch I think. I suggest further discussion of this to take place in topic https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/21741-subtitles-possibilities-beyond-211/
  18. @duzenkoTwo problems, first I did have my folders named darkmod in succession so I renamed to tdm and darkmod respectively. But the asset issue was fixed cause I forgot to run the flippin launcher... LOL So the engine boots up however... @stgatilovThe first time running, it decompressed textures but the game wouldn't start. Launched a second time and I get a fullscreen window, but it hangs on a black screen, last item in terminal is "Async thread started". When I run "thedarkmod.custom.debug" I get an ELF Exec error like it's compiled for wrong architecture, however a 'file' shows it is an aarch64 ARM executable. My terminal output below: EDIT: I noticed below the line "Unknown command '#'", I do know one project I was compiling on required me to modify a C file and change the # hashtags to // double forward slashes as ARM assembly uses // for comments. *Shrug* wooty@wootylx2k-ubn:~/build/tdm/darkmod$ ./thedarkmod.custom TDM 2.10/64 #9574 (1435:9574M) linux-aarch64 Aug 23 2021 01:34:57 failed parsing /proc/cpuinfo measured CPU frequency: 1000.1 MHz 1000 MHz unsupported CPU found interface lo - loopback found interface enx00249b1e62ae - 151.151.88.220/255.255.0.0 found interface virbr0 - 192.168.122.1/255.255.255.0 Found Unsupported CPU, features: TDM using Generic for SIMD processing. Found 0 new missions and 0 packages. ------ Initializing File System ------ Current search path: /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/ /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_textures_wood01.pk4 (376 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_textures_window01.pk4 (389 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_textures_stone_sculpted01.pk4 (463 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_textures_stone_natural01.pk4 (133 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_textures_stone_flat01.pk4 (302 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_textures_stone_cobblestones01.pk4 (224 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_textures_stone_brick01.pk4 (520 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_textures_sfx01.pk4 (69 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_textures_roof01.pk4 (72 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_textures_plaster01.pk4 (142 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_textures_paint_paper01.pk4 (63 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_textures_other01.pk4 (127 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_textures_nature01.pk4 (286 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_textures_metal01.pk4 (497 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_textures_glass01.pk4 (51 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_textures_fabric01.pk4 (43 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_textures_door01.pk4 (177 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_textures_decals01.pk4 (465 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_textures_carpet01.pk4 (92 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_textures_base01.pk4 (407 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_standalone.pk4 (4 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_sound_vocals_decls01.pk4 (27 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_sound_vocals07.pk4 (1111 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_sound_vocals06.pk4 (696 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_sound_vocals05.pk4 (119 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_sound_vocals04.pk4 (2869 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_sound_vocals03.pk4 (743 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_sound_vocals02.pk4 (1299 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_sound_vocals01.pk4 (82 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_sound_sfx02.pk4 (605 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_sound_sfx01.pk4 (966 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_sound_ambient_decls01.pk4 (8 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_sound_ambient03.pk4 (24 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_sound_ambient02.pk4 (163 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_sound_ambient01.pk4 (220 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_prefabs01.pk4 (961 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_player01.pk4 (125 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_models_decls01.pk4 (103 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_models02.pk4 (2053 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_models01.pk4 (3163 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_gui_credits01.pk4 (49 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_gui01.pk4 (721 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_fonts01.pk4 (696 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_env01.pk4 (152 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_defs01.pk4 (187 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_base01.pk4 (198 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_ai_steambots01.pk4 (24 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_ai_monsters_spiders01.pk4 (80 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_ai_humanoid_undead01.pk4 (55 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_ai_humanoid_townsfolk01.pk4 (104 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_ai_humanoid_pagans01.pk4 (10 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_ai_humanoid_nobles01.pk4 (48 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_ai_humanoid_mages01.pk4 (8 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_ai_humanoid_heads01.pk4 (100 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_ai_humanoid_guards01.pk4 (378 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_ai_humanoid_females01.pk4 (172 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_ai_humanoid_builders01.pk4 (91 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_ai_humanoid_beasts02.pk4 (229 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_ai_humanoid_beasts01.pk4 (23 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_ai_base01.pk4 (9 files) /home/wooty/build/tdm/darkmod/tdm_ai_animals01.pk4 (82 files) File System Initialized. -------------------------------------- Couldn't open journal files failed parsing /proc/cpuinfo alternative method used /proc/cpuinfo CPU processors: 16 /proc/cpuinfo CPU logical cores: 16 ----- Initializing Decls ----- ------------------------------ I18N: SetLanguage: 'english'. I18N: Found no character remapping for english. I18N: 1277 strings read from strings/english.lang I18N: 'strings/fm/english.lang' not found. Couldn't exec editor.cfg - file does not exist. execing default.cfg Unknown command '#' Couldn't exec autoexec.cfg - file does not exist. I18N: SetLanguage: 'english'. I18N: Found no character remapping for english. I18N: 1277 strings read from strings/english.lang I18N: 'strings/fm/english.lang' not found. ----- Initializing OpenAL ----- Setup OpenAL device and context [ALSOFT] (EE) Failed to set real-time priority for thread: Operation not permitted (1) OpenAL: found device 'SB Omni Surround 5.1 Analog Stereo' [ACTIVE] OpenAL: found device 'Kensington SD4700P Dual Video Dock Digital Stereo (IEC958)' [ALSOFT] (EE) Failed to set real-time priority for thread: Operation not permitted (1) OpenAL: device 'SB Omni Surround 5.1 Analog Stereo' opened successfully OpenAL: HRTF is available OpenAL vendor: OpenAL Community OpenAL renderer: OpenAL Soft OpenAL version: 1.1 ALSOFT 1.21.1 OpenAL: found EFX extension OpenAL: HRTF is enabled (reason: 1 = ALC_HRTF_ENABLED_SOFT) OpenAL: found 256 hardware voices ----- Initializing OpenGL ----- Initializing OpenGL display Borderless fullscreen - using current video mode for monitor 0: 3440 x 1440 ...initializing QGL ------- Input Initialization ------- ------------------------------------ OpenGL vendor: AMD OpenGL renderer: AMD Radeon (TM) Pro WX 4100 (POLARIS11, DRM 3.40.0, 5.11.0-31-generic, LLVM 12.0.1) OpenGL version: 4.6 (Core Profile) Mesa 21.3.0-devel (git-2b4b310 2021-08-21 hirsute-oibaf-ppa) core Checking required OpenGL features... v - using GL_VERSION_3_3 v - using GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc Checking optional OpenGL extensions... v - using GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic maxTextureAnisotropy: 16.000000 v - using GL_ARB_stencil_texturing v - using GL_EXT_depth_bounds_test v - using GL_ARB_buffer_storage v - using GL_ARB_texture_storage v - using GL_ARB_multi_draw_indirect v - using GL_ARB_vertex_attrib_binding v - using GL_ARB_bindless_texture X - GL_ARB_compatibility not found v - using GL_KHR_debug Max active texture units in fragment shader: 32 Max combined texture units: 192 Max anti-aliasing samples: 8 Max geometry output vertices: 256 Max geometry output components: 4095 Max vertex attribs: 16 ---------- R_ReloadGLSLPrograms_f ----------- Linking GLSL program cubeMap ... 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Linking GLSL program gaussian_blur ... --------------------------------- Font fonts/english/stone in size 12 not found, using size 24 instead. --------- Initializing Game ---------- The Dark Mod 2.10/64, linux-aarch64, code revision 9574 Build date: Aug 23 2021 Initializing event system ...852 event definitions Initializing class hierarchy ...172 classes, 1690368 bytes for event callbacks Initializing scripts ---------- Compile stats ---------- Memory usage: Strings: 45, 7160 bytes Statements: 20303, 812120 bytes Functions: 1278, 166124 bytes Variables: 91948 bytes Mem used: 2019680 bytes Static data: 3989840 bytes Allocated: 5034004 bytes Thread size: 7904 bytes Maximum object size: 884 Largest object type name: weapon_arrow ...6 aas types game initialized. -------------------------------------- Parsing material files Found 0 new missions and 0 packages. Found 3 mods in the FM folder. 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  19. Mandrasola is a small sized map in which aspiring thief Thomas Porter steals some herbal products from a smuggler. The mission was created by me, Sotha and I wish to thank Bikerdude, BrokenArts and Ocn for playtesting and voice acting. Thanks goes naturally to everyone contributing and making TDM possible. This mission occurs chronologically before the Knighton's Manor, making it the first mission in the Thomas Porter series. Events in chronological order are: Mandrasola, The Knighton's Manor, The Beleaguered Fence, The Glenham Tower and The Transaction. The winter came early and suddenly this year. Weeks of strong blizzards and extremely harsh cold weather hit Bridgeport hard. With the seas completely frozen, a rare occurence indeed, most of the City harbor commerce has stopped completely. Vessels are stuck in the ice and no ship can leave or enter the City, resulting in the availability imported goods declining and their prices skyrocketing. One of these imported items is Mandrasola, a rare herbal product, which is imported overseas from the far southern continents. Mandrasola has its uses in alchemical cures and poisons, but mostly this substance is used for its narcotic qualities by commoners and even the nobility. The problem with Mandrasola is that excessive use is extremely addicting and the withdrawal effects are most grievious. Many are utterly incapable of stopping using Mandrasola and are transformed into quivering human ruins if they do no get their daily dose. And now this expensive and rare substance is running out from the whole City. Me and my fence, Lark Butternose, would love to grab this monopoly to ourselves: selling the last few doses in the City would probably be worth a fortune. According to Lark's sources, there remains only one smuggling lord who still has Mandrasola in stock. The problem is that this individual maintains an exclusive clandestine operation and only supplies a few nobles. Despite our best information gathering efforts we couldn't learn who the smuggler is and where he or she operates. Luckily we have an alternate plan. While searching for Mandrasola related information, we learned that a noblewoman called Lady Ludmilla is addicted to the substance and has paid high prices for small amounts of it. We also know that she has visited frequently someone in the Tanner's Ward waterfront, and since she goes to the area personally we believe she is visiting the smuggler. The plan is simple: I must monitor Ludmilla's most likely entryway to the Waterfront and then follow her to the smugglers hideout. I'd better be very careful around Ludmilla. She must not realise I'm following her or she probably won't lead me to her dealer. Hurting her is also out of the question. After she leads me to the smuggler's hideout, I can take my time to break in carefully and steal all the Mandrasola I can find. While I'm there it wouldn't be a bad idea to grab some loose valuables as well. I've now waited in the blistering cold for a few hours already. Looks like there are a few city watch patrols in the area to complicate matters... I think I heard a womans voice beyond the north gate. That must be lady Ludmilla, I haven't seen many ladies in these parts. I'd better get ready.. Links: Use the ingame downloader to get it. WARNING! Someone always fails to use spoiler tags. I do not recommend reading any further until you've played the mission.
  20. Creating a new thread for this as it was being discussed in an old beta-testing thread starting here: https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/21822-beta-testing-high-expectations/&do=findComment&comment=490751 I suppose the main questions are: when should this spawnarg be used, if at all? why was it introduced in the first place? Can we get it documented properly on the Wiki so misuse isn't propagated? @stgatilov @Dragofer
  21. Hello! Tracking down information on software and plug-ins that work with D3 / TDM can be a tough. So I have created a thread here where people can post what software/ plug-ins/ tutorials or other references they've had success or failure with in TDM. 3DS MAX 2013 64bit .ase - Default .ASE model exporter works. However you have to open the .ase file in text edit and manual change the *BITMAP line on each material to read something like: "//base/textures/common/collision" which allows the engine to read the correct material path. md5.mesh / animation - Beserker's md5 exporter/importers for 3dsmax. http://www.katsbits.com/tools, Importing and exporting works. The model must be textured, UV'd, with a skin modifier attached to the bones to export. PM me (Kingsal) for help with this. Imported models using the script will not be weighted appropriately, so this is not recommended if you are simply trying to edit existing tdm content. (Use blender instead) MAYA 2011 32bit md5.mesh - So far I've not had any luck with Maya 2011. I am using Greebo's MayaImportx86 for Maya 2011. I've got the importer working however I get a "Unexpected Internal Failure(kFailure)" and the import fails. This could be due to something finicky in Maya that I am not doing correctly. Will keep trying.. Blender 2.7 about - Blender is commonly used and pretty well supported on the forums/ wiki. Various versions may work as well - https://www.blender.org/download/ md5.mesh / animation Blender MD5 importer/exporter (io_scene_md5.zip): https://sourceforge.net/projects/blenderbitsbobs/files/ Sotha's guide Blender Male/ Female rigs by Arcturus - Here Edit by Dragofer: more links found in this post.
  22. mircea@linux-qz0r:~> objdump -p /archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install/bin/darkradiant /archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install/bin/darkradiant: file format elf64-x86-64 Program Header: PHDR off 0x0000000000000040 vaddr 0x0000000000400040 paddr 0x0000000000400040 align 2**3 filesz 0x0000000000000268 memsz 0x0000000000000268 flags r-- INTERP off 0x00000000000002a8 vaddr 0x00000000004002a8 paddr 0x00000000004002a8 align 2**0 filesz 0x000000000000001c memsz 0x000000000000001c flags r-- LOAD off 0x0000000000000000 vaddr 0x0000000000400000 paddr 0x0000000000400000 align 2**12 filesz 0x0000000000085048 memsz 0x0000000000085048 flags r-- LOAD off 0x0000000000086000 vaddr 0x0000000000486000 paddr 0x0000000000486000 align 2**12 filesz 0x000000000036b7b5 memsz 0x000000000036b7b5 flags r-x LOAD off 0x00000000003f2000 vaddr 0x00000000007f2000 paddr 0x00000000007f2000 align 2**12 filesz 0x00000000000b0a4a memsz 0x00000000000b0a4a flags r-- LOAD off 0x00000000004a3a30 vaddr 0x00000000008a4a30 paddr 0x00000000008a4a30 align 2**12 filesz 0x00000000000369f0 memsz 0x000000000003e310 flags rw- DYNAMIC off 0x00000000004d6c38 vaddr 0x00000000008d7c38 paddr 0x00000000008d7c38 align 2**3 filesz 0x0000000000000360 memsz 0x0000000000000360 flags rw- NOTE off 0x00000000000002c4 vaddr 0x00000000004002c4 paddr 0x00000000004002c4 align 2**2 filesz 0x0000000000000044 memsz 0x0000000000000044 flags r-- EH_FRAME off 0x00000000004108dc vaddr 0x00000000008108dc paddr 0x00000000008108dc align 2**2 filesz 0x000000000000f1e4 memsz 0x000000000000f1e4 flags r-- STACK off 0x0000000000000000 vaddr 0x0000000000000000 paddr 0x0000000000000000 align 2**4 filesz 0x0000000000000000 memsz 0x0000000000000000 flags rw- RELRO off 0x00000000004a3a30 vaddr 0x00000000008a4a30 paddr 0x00000000008a4a30 align 2**0 filesz 0x00000000000345d0 memsz 0x00000000000345d0 flags r-- Dynamic Section: NEEDED libwxutil.so NEEDED libxmlutil.so NEEDED libxml2.so.2 NEEDED libscenegraph.so NEEDED libmath.so NEEDED libwx_baseu-suse.so.3.0.4 NEEDED libwx_gtk2u_core-suse.so.3.0.4 NEEDED libwx_gtk2u_stc-suse.so.3.0.4 NEEDED libwx_gtk2u_adv-suse.so.3.0.4 NEEDED libwx_gtk2u_gl-suse.so.3.0.4 NEEDED libwx_gtk2u_xrc-suse.so.3.0.4 NEEDED libsigc-2.0.so.0 NEEDED libftgl.so.2 NEEDED libGLEW.so.2.2 NEEDED libX11.so.6 NEEDED libGLU.so.1 NEEDED libGL.so.1 NEEDED libdl.so.2 NEEDED libstdc++.so.6 NEEDED libm.so.6 NEEDED libgcc_s.so.1 NEEDED libpthread.so.0 NEEDED libc.so.6 NEEDED ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 RUNPATH $ORIGIN/../lib/darkradiant INIT 0x0000000000486000 FINI 0x00000000007f17a8 INIT_ARRAY 0x00000000008a4a30 INIT_ARRAYSZ 0x0000000000000548 FINI_ARRAY 0x00000000008a4f78 FINI_ARRAYSZ 0x0000000000000008 HASH 0x0000000000400308 GNU_HASH 0x0000000000404a00 STRTAB 0x0000000000414da8 SYMTAB 0x0000000000406480 STRSZ 0x000000000001b9a2 SYMENT 0x0000000000000018 DEBUG 0x0000000000000000 PLTGOT 0x00000000008d9000 PLTRELSZ 0x0000000000004b78 PLTREL 0x0000000000000007 JMPREL 0x00000000004804d0 RELA 0x0000000000431d68 RELASZ 0x000000000004e768 RELAENT 0x0000000000000018 VERNEED 0x0000000000431ab8 VERNEEDNUM 0x000000000000000d VERSYM 0x000000000043074a Version References: required from ld-linux-x86-64.so.2: 0x0d696913 0x00 30 GLIBC_2.3 required from libwx_gtk2u_stc-suse.so.3.0.4: 0x0cdb2640 0x00 25 WXU_3.0 required from libgcc_s.so.1: 0x0b792650 0x00 22 GCC_3.0 required from libpthread.so.0: 0x09691a75 0x00 18 GLIBC_2.2.5 required from libm.so.6: 0x06969189 0x00 28 GLIBC_2.29 0x09691a75 0x00 17 GLIBC_2.2.5 required from libwx_gtk2u_gl-suse.so.3.0.4: 0x0cdb2640 0x00 16 WXU_3.0 required from libwx_gtk2u_adv-suse.so.3.0.4: 0x0cdb2640 0x00 11 WXU_3.0 required from libwx_gtk2u_xrc-suse.so.3.0.4: 0x0cdb2640 0x00 10 WXU_3.0 required from libc.so.6: 0x06969194 0x00 26 GLIBC_2.14 0x0d696913 0x00 21 GLIBC_2.3 0x09691a75 0x00 09 GLIBC_2.2.5 required from libdl.so.2: 0x09691a75 0x00 06 GLIBC_2.2.5 required from libwx_baseu-suse.so.3.0.4: 0x0cdb2640 0x00 04 WXU_3.0 required from libstdc++.so.6: 0x0bafd178 0x00 31 CXXABI_1.3.8 0x0afd17f1 0x00 29 CXXABI_1.3.11 0x0bafd172 0x00 27 CXXABI_1.3.2 0x0bafd173 0x00 24 CXXABI_1.3.3 0x0297f864 0x00 23 GLIBCXX_3.4.14 0x02297f89 0x00 20 GLIBCXX_3.4.9 0x0297f872 0x00 19 GLIBCXX_3.4.22 0x0297f870 0x00 15 GLIBCXX_3.4.20 0x0bafd179 0x00 14 CXXABI_1.3.9 0x0297f861 0x00 13 GLIBCXX_3.4.11 0x056bafd3 0x00 12 CXXABI_1.3 0x0297f865 0x00 08 GLIBCXX_3.4.15 0x08922974 0x00 07 GLIBCXX_3.4 0x0297f871 0x00 05 GLIBCXX_3.4.21 0x0297f876 0x00 03 GLIBCXX_3.4.26 required from libwx_gtk2u_core-suse.so.3.0.4: 0x0cdb2640 0x00 02 WXU_3.0 mircea@linux-qz0r:~> ldd /archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install/bin/darkradiant linux-vdso.so.1 (0x00007ffcec1e6000) libwxutil.so => /archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install/bin/../lib/darkradiant/libwxutil.so (0x00007fa5ad06e000) libxmlutil.so => /archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install/bin/../lib/darkradiant/libxmlutil.so (0x00007fa5ad063000) libxml2.so.2 => /usr/lib64/libxml2.so.2 (0x00007fa5ace9a000) libscenegraph.so => /archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install/bin/../lib/darkradiant/libscenegraph.so (0x00007fa5ace60000) libmath.so => /archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install/bin/../lib/darkradiant/libmath.so (0x00007fa5ace52000) libwx_baseu-suse.so.3.0.4 => /usr/lib64/libwx_baseu-suse.so.3.0.4 (0x00007fa5acc80000) libwx_gtk2u_core-suse.so.3.0.4 => /usr/lib64/libwx_gtk2u_core-suse.so.3.0.4 (0x00007fa5ac6e0000) libwx_gtk2u_stc-suse.so.3.0.4 => /usr/lib64/libwx_gtk2u_stc-suse.so.3.0.4 (0x00007fa5ac56d000) libwx_gtk2u_adv-suse.so.3.0.4 => /usr/lib64/libwx_gtk2u_adv-suse.so.3.0.4 (0x00007fa5ac3b4000) libwx_gtk2u_gl-suse.so.3.0.4 => /usr/lib64/libwx_gtk2u_gl-suse.so.3.0.4 (0x00007fa5ac39c000) libwx_gtk2u_xrc-suse.so.3.0.4 => /usr/lib64/libwx_gtk2u_xrc-suse.so.3.0.4 (0x00007fa5ac2db000) libsigc-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libsigc-2.0.so.0 (0x00007fa5ac2d2000) libftgl.so.2 => /usr/lib64/libftgl.so.2 (0x00007fa5ac29a000) libGLEW.so.2.2 => /usr/lib64/libGLEW.so.2.2 (0x00007fa5ac1e1000) libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libX11.so.6 (0x00007fa5ac09c000) libGLU.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libGLU.so.1 (0x00007fa5ac046000) libGL.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libGL.so.1 (0x00007fa5abfba000) libdl.so.2 => /lib64/libdl.so.2 (0x00007fa5abfb4000) libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.6 (0x00007fa5abdd1000) libm.so.6 => /lib64/libm.so.6 (0x00007fa5abc8b000) libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib64/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x00007fa5abc70000) libpthread.so.0 => /lib64/libpthread.so.0 (0x00007fa5abc4e000) libc.so.6 => /lib64/libc.so.6 (0x00007fa5aba83000) /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007fa5ad1d6000) libz.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libz.so.1 (0x00007fa5aba69000) liblzma.so.5 => /usr/lib64/liblzma.so.5 (0x00007fa5aba34000) libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 (0x00007fa5ab5d7000) libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 (0x00007fa5ab51a000) libpangocairo-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0 (0x00007fa5ab509000) libcairo.so.2 => /usr/lib64/libcairo.so.2 (0x00007fa5ab3d4000) libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so.0 (0x00007fa5ab3ab000) libpango-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libpango-1.0.so.0 (0x00007fa5ab358000) libgobject-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgobject-2.0.so.0 (0x00007fa5ab2fe000) libglib-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0x00007fa5ab1cc000) libSM.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libSM.so.6 (0x00007fa5ab1c1000) libpng16.so.16 => /usr/lib64/libpng16.so.16 (0x00007fa5ab178000) libjpeg.so.8 => /usr/lib64/libjpeg.so.8 (0x00007fa5ab0f2000) libtiff.so.5 => /usr/lib64/libtiff.so.5 (0x00007fa5ab06f000) libnotify.so.4 => /usr/lib64/libnotify.so.4 (0x00007fa5ab065000) libwx_gtk2u_html-suse.so.3.0.4 => /usr/lib64/libwx_gtk2u_html-suse.so.3.0.4 (0x00007fa5aaf9b000) libwx_baseu_xml-suse.so.3.0.4 => /usr/lib64/libwx_baseu_xml-suse.so.3.0.4 (0x00007fa5aaf88000) libfreetype.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libfreetype.so.6 (0x00007fa5aaec4000) libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libxcb.so.1 (0x00007fa5aae97000) libGLX.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libGLX.so.0 (0x00007fa5aae65000) libGLdispatch.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libGLdispatch.so.0 (0x00007fa5aadad000) libgmodule-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgmodule-2.0.so.0 (0x00007fa5aada7000) libXfixes.so.3 => /usr/lib64/libXfixes.so.3 (0x00007fa5aad9f000) libatk-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libatk-1.0.so.0 (0x00007fa5aad73000) libgio-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libgio-2.0.so.0 (0x00007fa5aab90000) libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 (0x00007fa5aab77000) libfontconfig.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libfontconfig.so.1 (0x00007fa5aab2c000) libXrender.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libXrender.so.1 (0x00007fa5aab1f000) libXinerama.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libXinerama.so.1 (0x00007fa5aab1a000) libXi.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libXi.so.6 (0x00007fa5aab05000) libXrandr.so.2 => /usr/lib64/libXrandr.so.2 (0x00007fa5aaaf8000) libXcursor.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libXcursor.so.1 (0x00007fa5aaaeb000) libXcomposite.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libXcomposite.so.1 (0x00007fa5aaae6000) libXdamage.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libXdamage.so.1 (0x00007fa5aaae1000) libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libXext.so.6 (0x00007fa5aaacc000) libpixman-1.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libpixman-1.so.0 (0x00007fa5aaa1f000) libEGL.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libEGL.so.1 (0x00007fa5aaa0d000) libxcb-shm.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libxcb-shm.so.0 (0x00007fa5aaa08000) libxcb-render.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libxcb-render.so.0 (0x00007fa5aa9f8000) libfribidi.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libfribidi.so.0 (0x00007fa5aa9da000) libthai.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libthai.so.0 (0x00007fa5aa9cf000) libharfbuzz.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libharfbuzz.so.0 (0x00007fa5aa8fd000) libffi.so.8 => /usr/lib64/libffi.so.8 (0x00007fa5aa8f1000) libpcre.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libpcre.so.1 (0x00007fa5aa862000) libICE.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libICE.so.6 (0x00007fa5aa844000) libuuid.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libuuid.so.1 (0x00007fa5aa83b000) libzstd.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libzstd.so.1 (0x00007fa5aa786000) libjbig.so.2 => /usr/lib64/libjbig.so.2 (0x00007fa5aa776000) libmspack.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libmspack.so.0 (0x00007fa5aa761000) libexpat.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libexpat.so.1 (0x00007fa5aa72d000) libbz2.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libbz2.so.1 (0x00007fa5aa70c000) libbrotlidec.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libbrotlidec.so.1 (0x00007fa5aa6fe000) libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib64/libXau.so.6 (0x00007fa5aa6f9000) libmount.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libmount.so.1 (0x00007fa5aa6b4000) libselinux.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libselinux.so.1 (0x00007fa5aa688000) libresolv.so.2 => /lib64/libresolv.so.2 (0x00007fa5aa66e000) libdatrie.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libdatrie.so.1 (0x00007fa5aa665000) libgraphite2.so.3 => /usr/lib64/libgraphite2.so.3 (0x00007fa5aa642000) libbrotlicommon.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libbrotlicommon.so.1 (0x00007fa5aa61f000) libblkid.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libblkid.so.1 (0x00007fa5aa5ec000) mircea@linux-qz0r:~> find /archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install /archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install /archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install/debug.xml /archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install/ui /archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install/ui/patchthickendialog.xrc /archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install/ui/patchcreatedialog.fbp /archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install/ui/readableeditor.fbp /archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install/ui/objectiveconditionsdialog.xrc /archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install/ui/lightinspector.xrc /archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install/ui/fonts /archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install/ui/fonts/FreeMono.ttf /archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install/ui/fonts/FreeSans.ttf /archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install/ui/lightinspector.fbp /archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install/ui/camwnd.xrc /archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install/ui/exportasmodeldialog.fbp /archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install/ui/particleeditor.fbp /archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install/ui/objectiveconditionsdialog.fbp /archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install/ui/overlaydialog.xrc /archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install/ui/aboutdialog.xrc /archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install/ui/addpropertydialog.xrc /archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install/ui/findandreplacedialog.fbp /archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install/ui/addpropertydialog.fbp /archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install/ui/renderpreview.xrc /archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install/ui/filterdialog.fbp /archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install/ui/conversationcmdeditor.xrc 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/archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install/ui/conversationcmdeditor.fbp /archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install/ui/missioninforeadmedialog.xrc /archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install/ui/difficultyeditor.xrc /archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install/ui/aboutdialog.fbp /archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install/ui/findandreplacedialog.xrc /archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install/ui/particleeditor.xrc /archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install/ui/patchinspector.fbp /archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install/ui/objectiveseditor.xrc /archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install/ui/objectiveseditor.fbp /archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install/ui/filtereditor.fbp /archive/mircea/Games/Quake/TheDarkMod/DarkRadiant_GIT/install/ui/modelselector.xrc 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  23. Looking at the code, the originals were "pm_mantle_pull 750" and "pm_mantle_pullFast 450". The new "pm_mantle_pull" value is "400". A "pm_mantle_pullFast" value of "450" would be slower than regular pull, not faster. With both being set to "400", they are at least similar. Other than that, it's subjective and the feedback from playtesters was positive. Also, referenced internally here: https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/22256-movementcontrols-settings-in-main-menu/&do=findComment&comment=489158
  24. That sort of tone doesn't fly in our forums.
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