Dracula 2 Posted July 2 Report Share Posted July 2 Hello everyone, I was very happy when i saw there's a new version of tdm so I installed it right away. But now I got a big problem with that version. It isn't working. All you can see when you start the game is blackscreen and you hear the titel music. The older versions were working fine. Does anyone of you have an idea what the problem could be and how I can solve it? System: Win 10 Pro 64 bit , Processor: Intel Core i7, Graphics: ATI Radon HD 4800 Series (and yeah I know my graphic card is old maybe that's the problem) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
freyk 466 Posted July 2 Report Share Posted July 2 (edited) Yes, try to update your video drivers. And if there is a darkmod.log in your darkmod folder, we would like to see it. Open the file with notepad and copy its content in this topic. in the following topics, you can find some other pointers: https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/search/&q=black screen&quick=1&type=forums_topic&nodes=58 Edited July 2 by freyk Quote Info: My portfolio and darkmod graphical installer Amnesty for Bikerdude! Link to post Share on other sites
Dragofer 1287 Posted July 2 Report Share Posted July 2 Also, for some reason it often helps to delete darkmod.cfg after an update, so that you get a new one when you next start TDM. Worth keeping a backup of it in case that doesn't fix the black screen. 1 Quote FM: One Step Too Far | FM: Down by the Riverside | FM: Perilous Refuge | Dragofer's Stuff | Dragofer's Scripting Link to post Share on other sites
peter_spy 1500 Posted July 2 Report Share Posted July 2 In general, if you update your TDM version, delete everything but .pk4 files and fms folder. This way your download should be fairly small and you'll make sure there are no broken dependencies in your setup. 1 Quote Builder Compound Asset Pack – models and textures for TDM Link to post Share on other sites
Dracula 2 Posted July 2 Author Report Share Posted July 2 (edited) thx for your fast answers. I've tried them and also looked through the other blackscreen problems in the forum. The drivers should have the latest update now, I also deleted the darkmod.cfg and the rest. But the result is still the same. Luckily I still have the backup of version 2.07 And that's what's written in the Darkmod.log: [g:\thedarkmod\darkmod_src\game\darkmodglobals.cpp ( 374):INI (INIT) FR: 0] LogFile created at 2020.07.02 14:22:03 [g:\thedarkmod\darkmod_src\game\darkmodglobals.cpp ( 377):INI (INIT) FR: 0] Executable last cleaned and rebuilt on Jun 17 2020 12:14:45 [g:\thedarkmod\darkmod_src\game\darkmodglobals.cpp ( 380):INI (INIT) FR: 0] The Dark Mod 2.08/32, code revision 8771 (1435:8771) [g:\thedarkmod\darkmod_src\game\darkmodglobals.cpp ( 426):FRC (FORCE) FR: 0] LogBegin: 0 [g:\thedarkmod\darkmod_src\game\darkmodglobals.cpp ( 426):FRC (FORCE) FR: 0] LogEnd: 0 [g:\thedarkmod\darkmod_src\game\darkmodglobals.cpp ( 426):FRC (FORCE) FR: 0] LogInfo: 0 [g:\thedarkmod\darkmod_src\game\darkmodglobals.cpp ( 426):FRC (FORCE) FR: 0] LogDebug: 0 [g:\thedarkmod\darkmod_src\game\darkmodglobals.cpp ( 426):FRC (FORCE) FR: 0] LogWarning: 0 [g:\thedarkmod\darkmod_src\game\darkmodglobals.cpp ( 426):FRC (FORCE) FR: 0] LogError: 0 [g:\thedarkmod\darkmod_src\game\darkmodglobals.cpp ( 436):FRC (FORCE) FR: 0] LogClass_FRAME: 0 [g:\thedarkmod\darkmod_src\game\darkmodglobals.cpp ( 436):FRC (FORCE) FR: 0] LogClass_SYSTEM: 0 [g:\thedarkmod\darkmod_src\game\darkmodglobals.cpp ( 436):FRC (FORCE) FR: 0] LogClass_MISC: 0 [g:\thedarkmod\darkmod_src\game\darkmodglobals.cpp ( 436):FRC (FORCE) FR: 0] LogClass_FROBBING: 0 [g:\thedarkmod\darkmod_src\game\darkmodglobals.cpp ( 436):FRC (FORCE) FR: 0] LogClass_AI: 0 [g:\thedarkmod\darkmod_src\game\darkmodglobals.cpp ( 436):FRC (FORCE) FR: 0] LogClass_SOUND: 0 [g:\thedarkmod\darkmod_src\game\darkmodglobals.cpp ( 436):FRC (FORCE) FR: 0] LogClass_FUNCTION: 0 [g:\thedarkmod\darkmod_src\game\darkmodglobals.cpp ( 436):FRC (FORCE) FR: 0] LogClass_ENTITY: 0 [g:\thedarkmod\darkmod_src\game\darkmodglobals.cpp ( 436):FRC (FORCE) FR: 0] LogClass_INVENTORY: 0 [g:\thedarkmod\darkmod_src\game\darkmodglobals.cpp ( 436):FRC (FORCE) FR: 0] LogClass_LIGHT: 0 [g:\thedarkmod\darkmod_src\game\darkmodglobals.cpp ( 436):FRC (FORCE) FR: 0] LogClass_WEAPON: 0 [g:\thedarkmod\darkmod_src\game\darkmodglobals.cpp ( 436):FRC (FORCE) FR: 0] LogClass_MATH: 0 [g:\thedarkmod\darkmod_src\game\darkmodglobals.cpp ( 436):FRC (FORCE) FR: 0] LogClass_MOVEMENT: 0 [g:\thedarkmod\darkmod_src\game\darkmodglobals.cpp ( 436):FRC (FORCE) FR: 0] LogClass_STIM_RESPONSE: 0 [g:\thedarkmod\darkmod_src\game\darkmodglobals.cpp ( 436):FRC (FORCE) FR: 0] LogClass_OBJECTIVES: 0 [g:\thedarkmod\darkmod_src\game\darkmodglobals.cpp ( 436):FRC (FORCE) FR: 0] LogClass_DIFFICULTY: 0 [g:\thedarkmod\darkmod_src\game\darkmodglobals.cpp ( 436):FRC (FORCE) FR: 0] LogClass_CONVERSATION: 0 [g:\thedarkmod\darkmod_src\game\darkmodglobals.cpp ( 436):FRC (FORCE) FR: 0] LogClass_MAINMENU: 0 [g:\thedarkmod\darkmod_src\game\darkmodglobals.cpp ( 436):FRC (FORCE) FR: 0] LogClass_LOCKPICK: 0 [g:\thedarkmod\darkmod_src\game\darkmodglobals.cpp ( 436):FRC (FORCE) FR: 0] LogClass_AAS: 0 [g:\thedarkmod\darkmod_src\game\darkmodglobals.cpp ( 436):FRC (FORCE) FR: 0] LogClass_STATE: 0 Edited July 2 by Dracula 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
freyk 466 Posted July 2 Report Share Posted July 2 (edited) Thanks for the log, but it needs more content. You can change also your game screenresolution to a lower resolution. Outside tdm by changeing some values in the config-files, using notepad. Change video-game screenresolution: make a copy of files darkmod.cfg and darkmod.ini (as backup) open darkmod.cfg with notepad. Search for lines "seta r_customHeight" and "seta r_customWidth" change the values in these lines, to a lower screenresolution, for example seta r_customHeight "600" seta r_customWidth "800" You can also change to the video-mode from fullscreen to windowed. seta r_fullscreen "1" change the 1 to 0 Save the file. To add more logcontent to logfiles. make a copy of files darkmod.cfg and darkmod.ini (as backup) remove the darkmod.log file. open thedarkmod.cfg with notepad go to line: seta logFile "0" change the value 0 to 1 and save the file. open darkmod.ini with notepad go to lines: LogError=0 LogBegin=0 change the 0 to 1. and save the file. Start tdm. (And you switch screens with keycombo alt-tab.) close tdm. check the content in darkmod.log and your qconsole.log. They can be found in: yourdarkmodfolder\darkmod.log yourdarkmodfolder\fms\onofyourmissions\qconsole.log post the content of qconsole in this topic. We need the content of qconsole.log. Edited July 2 by freyk Quote Info: My portfolio and darkmod graphical installer Amnesty for Bikerdude! Link to post Share on other sites
Dracula 2 Posted July 2 Author Report Share Posted July 2 okay I've deleted the darkmod.log is the thedarkmod.cfg the same as Darkmod.cfg 'cause I can't find thedarkmod.cfg? If yes, in the Darkmod.cfg is a line whitch says: seta logFile "0" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
freyk 466 Posted July 2 Report Share Posted July 2 its "darkmod.cfg". And you can add that line. Quote Info: My portfolio and darkmod graphical installer Amnesty for Bikerdude! Link to post Share on other sites
Dracula 2 Posted July 2 Author Report Share Posted July 2 That's in the qconsole.log: log file 'qconsole.log' opened on Thu Jul 2 17:45:58 2020 execing DarkmodKeybinds.cfg Couldn't exec autoexec.cfg - file does not exist. I18N: SetLanguage: 'english'. I18N: Found no character remapping for english. I18N: 1274 strings read from strings/english.lang I18N: 'strings/fm/english.lang' not found. ----- Initializing OpenAL ----- Setup OpenAL device and context OpenAL: found device 'OpenAL Soft on Lautsprecher (2- Realtek High Definition Audio)' OpenAL: found device 'OpenAL Soft on Realtek HD Audio 2nd output (2- Realtek High Definition Audio)' OpenAL: using 'OpenAL Soft' OpenAL: HRTF is available OpenAL vendor: OpenAL Community OpenAL renderer: OpenAL Soft OpenAL version: 1.1 ALSOFT 1.19.1 OpenAL: found EFX extension OpenAL: HRTF is enabled (reason: 1 = ALC_HRTF_ENABLED_SOFT) OpenAL: found 256 hardware voices ----- Initializing OpenGL ----- Initializing OpenGL subsystem ...getting default gamma ramp: success ...registered window class ...registered fake window class ...created window @ 0,0 (1920x1080) Initializing OpenGL driver ...getting DC: succeeded ...PIXELFORMAT 2 selected ...creating GL context: core-fc ...making context current: succeeded ...initializing QGL ------- Input Initialization ------- Initializing DirectInput... mouse: DirectInput initialized. keyboard: DirectInput initialized. ------------------------------------ OpenGL vendor: ATI Technologies Inc. OpenGL renderer: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series OpenGL version: 3.1.11672 Core Profile Forward-Compatible Context compatibility Checking required OpenGL features... v - using GL_VERSION_3_1 v - using GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc v - using WGL_VERSION_1_0 v - using WGL_ARB_pixel_format Checking optional OpenGL extensions... Max texture units: 16 Max active textures: 32 Max geometry output vertices: 1024 Max geometry output components: 16384 Max vertex attribs: 29 v - using GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic maxTextureAnisotropy: 16.000000 v - using GL_ARB_vertex_program v - using GL_ARB_fragment_program X - GL_ARB_stencil_texturing not found X - GL_EXT_depth_bounds_test not found v - using GL_ARB_geometry_shader4 v - using GL_ARB_timer_query X - GL_KHR_debug not found v - using GL_ARB_sync v - using GL_ARB_draw_elements_base_vertex X - GL_ARB_texture_swizzle not found X - GL_ARB_buffer_storage not found v - using WGL_EXT_swap_control ----- R_ReloadARBPrograms ----- glprogs/bumpyEnvironment.vfp 3 glprogs/bumpyEnvironment.vfp 4 glprogs/environment.vfp 1 glprogs/environment.vfp 2 glprogs/soft_particle.vfp 5 glprogs/soft_particle.vfp 6 ------------------------------- ---------- R_ReloadGLSLPrograms_f ----------- Linking GLSL program cubeMap ... Linking GLSL program bumpyEnvironment ... Linking GLSL program depthAlpha ... Linking GLSL program fog ... Linking GLSL program oldStage ... Linking GLSL program blend ... Linking GLSL program stencilshadow ... Linking GLSL program shadowMapA ... Linking GLSL program shadowMapN ... Linking GLSL program ambientInteraction ... Linking GLSL program interactionStencil ... Linking GLSL program interactionShadowMaps ... WARNING:Compiling shader file interactionMultiLight.fs failed: Fragment shader failed to compile with the following errors: ERROR: 0:1: error(#106) Version number not supported by GL2 ERROR: error(#273) 1 compilation errors. No code generated File indexes: 0 - interactionMultiLight.fs WARNING:Failed to attach shader interactionMultiLight.fs to program interactionMultiLight. Linking GLSL program interactionMultiLight ... Linking GLSL program frob ... Linking GLSL program soft_particle ... Linking GLSL program tonemap ... --------------------------------- New buffer size: 12288 kb New buffer size: 12288 kb Font fonts/english/stone in size 12 not found, using size 24 instead. --------- Initializing Game ---------- The Dark Mod 2.08/32, win-x86, code revision 8771 Build date: Jun 17 2020 WARNING:file def/tdm_ai_undead_zombie.def, line 1084: entityDef 'atdm:ai_undead_zombie_alt_animations' previously defined at def/tdm_ai_undead_zombie.def:292 WARNING:file materials/tdm_epi_shader_2.mtr, line 485: material 'wizard_cloth_001' previously defined at materials/tdm_epi_shader_2.mtr:389 WARNING:file materials/tdm_water.mtr, line 1189: material 'textures/particles/ripple_1' previously defined at materials/tdm_particles_ripple.mtr:1 Initializing event system ...841 event definitions Initializing class hierarchy ...172 classes, 417136 bytes for event callbacks Initializing scripts Compiled 'û': 87.2 ms ---------- Compile stats ---------- Memory usage: Strings: 45, 5552 bytes Statements: 20325, 406500 bytes Functions: 1268, 129304 bytes Variables: 92036 bytes Mem used: 1344984 bytes Static data: 2277600 bytes Allocated: 3047340 bytes Thread size: 7068 bytes ...6 aas types game initialized. -------------------------------------- Parsing material files Found 0 new mission packages. Found 3 mods in the FM folder. Parsed 0 mission declarations. -------- Initializing Session -------- Font fonts/english/mason_glow in size 12 not found, using size 48 instead. Font fonts/english/mason_glow in size 24 not found, using size 48 instead. Font fonts/english/mason in size 12 not found, using size 48 instead. Font fonts/english/mason in size 24 not found, using size 48 instead. WARNING:Couldn't load sound 'sound' using default session initialized -------------------------------------- --- Common Initialization Complete --- ------------- Warnings --------------- during The Dark Mod initialization... WARNING:Compiling shader file interactionMultiLight.fs failed: Fragment shader failed to compile with the following errors: ERROR: 0:1: error(#106) Version number not supported by GL2 ERROR: error(#273) 1 compilation errors. No code generated File indexes: 0 - interactionMultiLight.fs WARNING:Couldn't load sound 'sound' using default WARNING:Failed to attach shader interactionMultiLight.fs to program interactionMultiLight. WARNING:file def/tdm_ai_undead_zombie.def, line 1084: entityDef 'atdm:ai_undead_zombie_alt_animations' previously defined at def/tdm_ai_undead_zombie.def:292 WARNING:file materials/tdm_epi_shader_2.mtr, line 485: material 'wizard_cloth_001' previously defined at materials/tdm_epi_shader_2.mtr:389 WARNING:file materials/tdm_water.mtr, line 1189: material 'textures/particles/ripple_1' previously defined at materials/tdm_particles_ripple.mtr:1 WARNING:file skins/tdm_epi_skins.skin, line 86: skin 'steam_engine_003_off' previously defined at skins/steam_engine_003.skin:1 WARNING:file skins/tdm_epi_skins.skin, line 97: skin 'steam_engine_003_on' previously defined at skins/steam_engine_003.skin:18 WARNING:file sound/tdm_ai_maiden.sndshd, line 1709: sound 'tdm_ai_maiden_request_help' previously defined at sound/tdm_ai_maiden.sndshd:1561 9 warnings Couldn't exec autocommands.cfg - file does not exist. Linking GLSL program cubeMap ... Linking GLSL program bumpyEnvironment ... Linking GLSL program depthAlpha ... Linking GLSL program fog ... Linking GLSL program oldStage ... Linking GLSL program blend ... Linking GLSL program stencilshadow ... Linking GLSL program shadowMapA ... Linking GLSL program shadowMapN ... Linking GLSL program ambientInteraction ... Linking GLSL program interactionStencil ... Linking GLSL program interactionShadowMaps ... WARNING:Compiling shader file interactionMultiLight.fs failed: Fragment shader failed to compile with the following errors: ERROR: 0:1: error(#106) Version number not supported by GL2 ERROR: error(#273) 1 compilation errors. No code generated File indexes: 0 - interactionMultiLight.fs WARNING:Failed to attach shader interactionMultiLight.fs to program interactionMultiLight. Linking GLSL program interactionMultiLight ... Linking GLSL program frob ... Linking GLSL program soft_particle ... Linking GLSL program tonemap ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nbohr1more 2063 Posted July 2 Report Share Posted July 2 Looks like r_multidraw is enabled. Please post your Darkmod.cfg as a TXT file Quote Please visit TDM's IndieDB site and help promote the mod: http://www.indiedb.com/mods/the-dark-mod (Yeah, shameless promotion... but traffic is traffic folks...) Link to post Share on other sites
Dracula 2 Posted July 2 Author Report Share Posted July 2 Darkmod.cfg okay, here's the darkmod.cfg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nbohr1more 2063 Posted July 2 Report Share Posted July 2 Thanks! First, try setting these to 0 seta r_useFenceSync "0" r_useBaseVertex "0" r_usePersistentMapping "0" Next try different values for: r_glCoreProfile "2" 1 Quote Please visit TDM's IndieDB site and help promote the mod: http://www.indiedb.com/mods/the-dark-mod (Yeah, shameless promotion... but traffic is traffic folks...) Link to post Share on other sites
Dracula 2 Posted July 2 Author Report Share Posted July 2 thx for the new settings. I've tried it with these but it's still the same. The game isn't working anymore Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nbohr1more 2063 Posted July 2 Report Share Posted July 2 Please try deleting tdm_base01.pk4 and running tdm_update again. Quote Please visit TDM's IndieDB site and help promote the mod: http://www.indiedb.com/mods/the-dark-mod (Yeah, shameless promotion... but traffic is traffic folks...) Link to post Share on other sites
duzenko 647 Posted July 3 Report Share Posted July 3 What is the radeon driver version? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dracula 2 Posted July 3 Author Report Share Posted July 3 (edited) I've deleted tdm_base01.pk4 and run the update again. the problem still appers, only difference is, that the blackscreen is coming a later. for the first 2 or 3 seconds you can see a grey screen now. the driver version is 8.970.100.9001 (see screenshot) I tried to update it but it always says it's the newest one. I really think the only way to solve that problem is to buy a better grapic card. Edited July 3 by Dracula Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cabalistic 682 Posted July 3 Report Share Posted July 3 According to the gpuinfo database, the HD4800 should support OpenGL 3.3, so it should be able to run TDM 2.08 and the upcoming 2.09, at least. Chances are this is either a driver bug, or we're doing something wrong on the coding side. It would be great to find out the cause, and then perhaps we can fix or work around it. Unfortunately, I don't have any immediate ideas right now, will have to think about it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
duzenko 647 Posted July 3 Report Share Posted July 3 2 hours ago, Dracula said: I've deleted tdm_base01.pk4 and run the update again. the problem still appers, only difference is, that the blackscreen is coming a later. for the first 2 or 3 seconds you can see a grey screen now. the driver version is 8.970.100.9001 (see screenshot) I tried to update it but it always says it's the newest one. I really think the only way to solve that problem is to buy a better grapic card. Sure looks like the latest version Used 4000 generation cards cost starting at $15 in my area but I'm not sure anyone would be willing to sponsor buying one for testing. I remember owning a 4850 around 2010 (ol' good days). It cost around $80 back then and it was a solid, respectable mid-range GPU. What can you buy for $80 now? Still, it was the only GPU I ever owned that had serious driver issues (short of Intel 3000 of course, but I never used it for gaming). Remember Rage? Every now and then AMD likes to drop the ball with OpenGL support. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dracula 2 Posted July 3 Author Report Share Posted July 3 anyway thanks to all of you for your help. it was just a try to let the new version somehow work, but sadly it's not. hope it'll work with an other card. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OrbWeaver 600 Posted July 3 Report Share Posted July 3 On 7/2/2020 at 4:49 PM, Dracula said: WARNING:Compiling shader file interactionMultiLight.fs failed: Fragment shader failed to compile with the following errors: ERROR: 0:1: error(#106) Version number not supported by GL2 ERROR: error(#273) 1 compilation errors. No code generated Presumably this part is the problem? If the lighting interaction shader cannot be compiled, a black screen is likely to result. Quote DarkRadiant homepage ⋄ DarkRadiant user guide ⋄ OrbWeaver's Dark Ambients ⋄ Blender export scripts Link to post Share on other sites
cabalistic 682 Posted July 3 Report Share Posted July 3 7 minutes ago, OrbWeaver said: Presumably this part is the problem? If the lighting interaction shader cannot be compiled, a black screen is likely to result. No, this shader is only needed by an experimental feature, and even if it were enabled (which it is not if the Darkmod.cfg file was deleted), it would only affect actual ingame rendering, not the menu. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stgatilov 1037 Posted July 3 Report Share Posted July 3 We can try some more complicated ways to debug the problem, but they would need more patience from @Dracula. For simple checks, could you please set in your darkmod.cfg: r_glDebugContext 1 r_glDebugOutput 2 logFile 1 (in case you have not already) Then post contents of qconsole.log here. Please put large text files into spoiler environment (including your earlier post). That's the icon looking like eye in post editor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stgatilov 1037 Posted July 3 Report Share Posted July 3 Another try is: r_glCoreProfile 0 r_uniformTransforms 0 r_useFenceSync 0 But please make sure to revert these settings after you try (deleting the whole darkmod.cfg is the most reliable way to reset it to defaults). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dracula 2 Posted July 3 Author Report Share Posted July 3 okay, take your time. that's the new qconsole.log qconsole.log 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stgatilov 1037 Posted July 4 Report Share Posted July 4 What about these settings, did they help? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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