Notes and things.

[Xolvix]

2 hours ago, datiswous said:

Can you do it? I'm writing about the advantage that more people are able to write the ui, and I think websites are for a great part ui's.

If you're asking if I have the ability to make GUIs then yes, you can literally draw them using Qt creator/designer. If you're asking if I'm going to do it for the purposes of this project, probably not right now as I've got barely enough time to play TDM as it is. I just don't think that website development translates well to desktop development. But you are right, these days you'll certainly find more people in general able to do UI development using web-based technologies, so in terms of the availability of people it most definitely has an advantage over traditional native apps.

BTW, that joke about rewriting using Rust is because it's basically a meme in the programming community to rewrite old codebases in Rust because it's more secure or something like that. Plus it has a lot of fanboys. Just wanted to address the confusion.

Edited October 30, 2022 by Xolvix

[wesp5]

7 hours ago, freyk said:

Its a idea, but no. TDM will overwrite that file and the notes will be gone. But the launcher can use the file one of its datasources.

I meant to say that this could be the file to use when adding notes to TDM itself and not another launcher, as half of it, loading and saving, already works.

Edited October 30, 2022 by wesp5

[Knockout Thief]

Getting close to what I want, just need to finish implementing notes and rating, it will read the FMS folder and gather the info and will launch whatever FM is selected fine. 

 

[freyk]

Very nice. Do you also add a mission downloader to this launcher?

[datiswous]

15 hours ago, Knockout Thief said:

Getting close to what I want, just need to finish implementing notes and rating, it will read the FMS folder and gather the info and will launch whatever FM is selected fine. 

Is it multiplatform?

[Knockout Thief]

It's written in c# but I use MS Visual Studio so not sure how hard it would be to put on other platforms.

[freyk]

Well it is easy if you use dotnet 4.7 (or lower), it should run on wine/proton on linux/mac. It is less easy, when you port the code using mono/gtk# (linux/mac). And it is hard, when you port it to another language. (But easy when you share/opensource the code)

Edited November 1, 2022 by freyk

[Xolvix]

6 hours ago, freyk said:

Well it is easy if you use dotnet 4.7 (or lower), it should run on wine/proton on linux/mac. It is less easy, when you port the code using mono/gtk# (linux/mac). And it is hard, when you port it to another language. (But easy when you share/opensource the code)

Depending on what it's using, if it's simple enough it should be able to run using Mono on Linux though. Look at how KeePass 2 runs on Linux to see how to run a .NET application in Linux (specifically the Other Unix-like systems section): https://keepass.info/help/v2/setup.html#mono

 

[freyk]

Is there a new status of your launcher. @Knockout Thief

Can we download the binary and source from somewhere to try it?

[Knockout Thief]

Here is an upload, it is not polished by any means... been a little busy with too many other things lately.... sorry. 

alternate. 

TDMLaunch.7z

Edited February 20, 2023 by Knockout Thief

[Hooded Lantern]

bummer i couldnt code. will someone continue the project?

[STiFU]

I feel like these efforts should go into the ingame mission viewer rather than an external application that most people are never going to see.

[datiswous]

I don't mind if there is an alternative way of browsing missions / mod, also because of gui limitations. But installing such things could be better supported. Like a mods installer.

[snatcher]

We need ratings and sorting:

• Alphabetical
• Not started / In progress / Complete
• User rating

Till then a launcher has a place.

[snatcher]

@Knockout Thief

I like A LOT what I see. Thank you very much for your work!

I get crashes, though. Let us know when you are ready to resume work, I will gladly support the development with crash reports and suggestions.

[Knockout Thief]

From the looks of it , it may be a month or two before I can get back to coding.

[freyk]

It is a nice start.
dont forget  to cleanup your binary folder.

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For the ones who want to try this launcher:

1. download the 7zip package
2. open the 7zip file with 7zip
3. extract only file "TDMLaunch.exe" from folderlocation "TDMLaunch.7z\TDMLaunch\bin\Debug\" to your tdm folder.

Run a mission:

1. When you start this launcher, click on tab "settings", select the needed folders and hit button "scan fm".
2. This will fill-up the missions table, in the launch tab.
3. double click on a mission to select it and click on the "Run mission" button.

Edited February 28, 2023 by freyk

[FenPhoenix]

I wanted something to work on, so I decided to just play around with giving AngelLoader integration a shot.

It's not got every feature you might want, but for a day and a half's work it's not too shabby.

https://github.com/FenPhoenix/AngelLoader/releases (and check the latest tdm_beta_* release)

The "installed" state works a little differently from the other games. FMs are always "installed", so the green check mark means that the FM is the current one, or "selected" in the game's terminology. Only one TDM FM can be "selected" at once, just like in the game. There is no downloader or new FM version indication or anything like that, you still have to go in-game for that. But you do get easy readme viewing, rating, comment writing, accurate autodetection of title/author/release date/mission count and nice sorting and searching etc. Basically most of the AngelLoader stuff is there and works.

Edited October 12, 2023 by FenPhoenix

[nbohr1more]

4 minutes ago, FenPhoenix said:

I wanted something to work on, so I decided to just play around with giving AngelLoader integration a shot.

It's not got every feature you might want, but for a day and a half's work it's not too shabby.

https://github.com/FenPhoenix/AngelLoader/releases/tag/tdm_beta_1

The "installed" state works a little differently from the other games. FMs are always "installed", so the green check mark means that the FM is the current one, or "selected" in the game's terminology. Only one TDM FM can be "selected" at once, just like in the game. There is no downloader or new FM version indication or anything like that, you still have to go in-game for that. But you do get easy readme viewing, rating, comment writing, accurate autodetection of title/author/release date/mission count and nice sorting and searching etc. Basically most of the AngelLoader stuff is there and works.

YES!

Maybe add other columns for things in the wiki?

https://wiki.thedarkmod.com/index.php?title=Fan_Missions_for_The_Dark_Mod

[snatcher]

I have been using FMSel in Thief2 for years because (I think) it came by default with NewDark and since FMSel allows me to rate missions it just works for me. I never bothered checking for alternatives but I just gave AngelLoader a go and I got it up an running in a breeze. What's more, the Import > FMSel option made its magic and my FM ratings along with the rest of details are all there now in AngelLoader! Very impressive piece of software! I am sold. Thanks for your work.

Of course what caught my attention in the first place is that an application developed by fans of similar games that already includes all the bells and whistles we may wish for suddenly and out of the blue supports The Dark Mod? This is beyond cool. I have been toying with AngelLoader for a few minutes now and and I'm loving it already.

This event deserves its own, dedicated topic.

[taffernicus]

A feature to push rating data to thiefguild.com website might be a great idea but apparently thiefguild doesn't have any sort of API . On that note we need to find a way to supply the authentication to thiefguild, make the server acknowledge the supplied authentication data, open/store the session and then send the rating data via POST request.

The hardest part is duplicate submission check and preventing accidental multiple POST request
 

Edited October 28, 2023 by taffernicus