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A sad and heartwarming topic... ...but I have to just take a moment and appreciate, that these quotes are probably gonna turn into a running gag on these forums.

That, quite literally, is a dark game. Didn't see nough to decide whether it looks good. It definitely needs sound randomization - multiple clips for each sound to shoose from and could also randomize volume and pitch. Footsteps seem to be pretty loud in general when compared to voice lines.

Thanks for the feedback. Remember that the idea was that this feature should help players when running away after getting detected, not to increase the speed of the player so he runs through the level all the time. Therefore a few aspects haven't been taken into consideration as they are not relevant for that case, but obviously would need to be added when implementing, while some of your points result from the unintented way of using it. Crouching: left out due to the above reasons, but obviously you should not slam open doors while crouching The noise propagated needs tweaking I guess, and the door should make a different sound when slammed. This would require changes to the door or some default fallback sound to be played as alternative to the typical open/close sound to reflect that it is loud. The aspect you mentioned in regards to closing doors without passing them is correct. I'll have to give this a thought. Regarding closed doors: I guess if you run into them in full speed expecting them to be openable quickly, the sudden stop you'll experience will make quiet some noise I don't really see any reason to tweak that.

No. The Aeden's staff optional objective is the hardest of the game. To point out directions here, though, is getting into an area of heavy-duty spoilers ... so I'm constrained in my response just as I was constrained in my responses to the "endless keyhunt" complaints because to show the rather simple direction would be a huge spoiler. So I had to bite my tongue and take it. Aeden's staff is different, though - harder. I've never tried a no-KO ghost playthrough. Because I'm clumsy and have slow reflexes. I think it might be possible to do a stealth no-alerts playthrough. Are you allowed to KO? I think I've gotten the staff a few times in my playthroughs without alerting the builders in that room. The only switchable lights in the FM are table lamps. The cylindrical style wall lamps aren't extinguishable. The other fire and gas wall lamps are extinguished by water. In the Ox all waiters and commoners in the common room and outside are friendlies - except for the waitress in the upper lounge which is filled with enemies. You need water arrows. Moss arrows. Rope arrows. I've never used a gas arrow in a playthrough of the FM but one would make things easier, for sure. I'm going to replay the area and check through the locations that you mentioned - the loop etc. - then if it's OK with you I'll PM you with some info, tho' I'll ask you if you want the info first. So's not to spoil it for others who get that far in the game (few and far between!). I find it almost impossible not to click the "reveal spoiler" tags and read the info ... and, y'know, spoilers do spoil the real deal.

Dear @Obsttorte , I have been testing v2 for some time and I don't have any positive points, I am afraid. The following are in-game sensations (didn't check or alter your scripts). Your script works fine when running away from AI, but my main testbed this time around has been a house with long carpeted corridors and AI doing its business unalerted. 1) The sound propagation spoiled the fun of the first version and AI is on me in more numbers and much faster than before. And while the idea of some noise could make sense, it doesn't translate well on screen because quickly opening doors doesn't feel too-fast or too-loud to me. The feeling is that I certainly am opening doors faster but with enough control not to slam the door against walls or frames. I like it better that AI detects me because of my floor steps and or simply because they see me. Ghosting at high speed undetected is actually fun! In addition, trying to quickly opening a door that is locked will alert nearby AI. And while it may be a realistic on paper it doesn't translate well to the screen: why is this guy coming here? 2) Players shouldn't be able to quickly open doors when crouching, but I guess this could depend on whether sound propagation stays or not. It currently doesn't feel right to me and I find quickly open doors when crouching a mechanic that may encourages players to go fast. 3) There's a situation where quickly closing doors doesn't feel right. Put yourself in a long corridor, there's a door to your right that is open. You want to close that door but stay on the current corridor, running in the same direction. You make the move but get no feedback in that split second. Weird. I say leave "quickly opening doors when running in stand up position" and forget about the rest. Less is more isn't it? That feature alone adds a lot and there's always time for upgrades. Cheers!

Thanks for the direction. I looked and then discovered how to search a specific topic in the forums, something I hadn't known prior to this.

One of the things I really need to understand about myself is that, at the moment I desire to ask the forums about something, I am really only an hour away from solving it for myself.

There are lots of downsides with killing people. It's loud, other guards are likely to come running, and to discover the corpses (and get alert for ages), and I think (correct me if I'm wrong) the AI will spot the blood as well. I haven't played this mission yet, but, usually, you won't be able to kill undead that way either. Anyway, as has been pointed out, the game lets you play it in multiple ways, and that's good. Restrictions restrict the way you want to play the game, which is bad. If you don't want to play the way which is shown in the video (which is not the normal way you can deal with the undead anyway), then just don't do it. Case solved. There is nothing fundamentally wrong with the game in this regard, so why fix something which isn't broken?

@snatcherHere is a modified version of the script that causes a sound to be propagated, hearable for nearby AI. Initially the sound origin was the door in question, but for some reason that doesn't work if the door is touching a visportal, which it usually does. Therefore the sound is emitted by the player. As they are nearby when a door gets slam open or closed it doesn't make a big difference, though. You can play with the number in the propSoundMod function call to modify how loud the propagated sound is (note that the player cannot hear it, it's only for alerting the AI).

Okay, I haven't read all the long posts in this thread, but speaking of tools reminded me of the crowbar that was available in one of the recent missions. I rather liked it to open some crates but of course in the context of the mission you needed to use it. But how about adding it to the core game to open any crate or any wooden door without having a key, but making a loud noise instead? One could argue that this might break a lot of missions though in which certain keys are needed to find in order...

1. Yes, most interactions with the environment mean noise, which can lead to failure. If you want to incentivize using tools and experimenting with guards and environment, why did you choose Thief gameplay and implemented stealth score? 2. Not really, if you balance it out. You can create more paths, e.g. a shorter one, but lit by a lantern that goes out for a while, every now and then. Or another shorter path behind guards back, but with a loud surface. This way player has a risk-reward kind of choice (get somewhere faster, but have to creep carefully behind AIs back, or time their move through a temporarily unlit area). Again, it's easier and faster to discuss these things when you know the contents of that presentation.

I don't know that specific game but it doesn't seem to obvious to me. It is also a possibility that the developer wanted the player to decide for one approach and then life with it. This is something I found tedious about the deus ex games, for example. There are alternative endings, but which one you get to see is decided within the last hour or two of the game. So you basically save there and once you get to see one ending you can reload that save and see the next ending and so on. This way on one hand you get to see all endings pretty easely, one the other hand this makes the whole decision absolutely pointless. It is a simple gotta catch 'em all approach with no deeper meaning. It is the modern way of gaming, with the completionist, steam achievement, explore everything, find every piece of loot approach to gaming which bores the hell out of me. An occupational therapy for an adhd generation of gamers. Developers seem to think that their customers play games because they don't know how else to spend their time. And from the post I have read here and in other forums, I tend to assume they are right.

posted: https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/21477-water-effects-not-rendered-through-warp-glass/

As requested, a test map to illustrate the issue of water effects not rendering through warp glass. Original thread starts here: https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/9082-newbie-darkradiant-questions/page/437/#comment-475239 tagging @duzenko In the attached map, there are 3 glass windows looking out over 3 different types of water. There is a rain weather patch above it, and a rainsplash patch directly above the water. The middle window is clear glass, and the outer ones are clear warp. You can see that the water isn't visible through the warp glass, nor is the rainsplash. The rain itself is visible through all of them though. render.map

Hunt Showdown lets you immediately open doors while running by melee bashing them, easily the most satisfying (and loud) thing to do. Can't do it by accident that way, but I think it'd be less useful in TDM.

DarkRadiant 3.0.0 is ready for download. It took a while, but DarkRadiant 3.0.0 is finally available. Most of the time has been spent on improving DarkRadiant's renderer, which now features shadow mapping support of up to 6 lights. It's still not matching the engine's output (especially in terms of performance), but it should be faster and much more helpful than it was before. The effort that has been put into the renderer rewrite plus the bigger changes in the previous few releases make the jump to the next major version feel more than justified. Besides of that, a lot of non-renderer issues have been resolved in this release too, next to some fine usability improvements. For more things that have changed or fixed, see the list below. Windows and Mac Downloads are available on Github: https://github.com/codereader/DarkRadiant/releases/tag/3.0.0 and of course linked from the website https://www.darkradiant.net Thanks go out to all who helped testing this release! And I'll gladly repeat myself, by thanking all the awesome people who keep using DarkRadiant to create Fan Missions - they are the main reason for me to keep going. Please report any bugs or feature requests here in these forums, following these guidelines: Bugs (including steps for reproduction) can go directly on the tracker. When unsure about a bug/issue, feel free to ask. If you run into a crash, please record a crashdump: Crashdump Instructions Feature requests should be suggested (and possibly discussed) here in these forums before they may be added to the tracker. Changes since 2.14.0 Feature: Realtime shadow mode Feature: Allow way to hide some entities in Create Entity list Feature: MD5 Animation Viewer: show current frame & total frames Feature: MD5 Animation Viewer: jump to frame Feature: DarkRadiant warns about missing .darkradiant file on load Feature: Ability to center 3D camera on selected entity Feature: Cut functionality to complement copy and paste Feature: Save user settings by application version Fixed: Free Rotation not working anymore, can only rotate along 3 axes Fixed: DR crash with combination of mouse buttons pressed Fixed: Git Sync Exception: too many redirects or authentication replays Fixed: Missing brushes when opening alphalabs1 from vanilla Doom 3 PK4s Fixed: Selected Skin not showing in ModelSelector Fixed: Reload Defs takes longer every time Fixed: ForceShadows materials are not casting shadows Fixed: Objective GUI doesn't display properly in some places Fixed: Crash on loading certain maps Fixed: Vertex colours do not show on models in lighting mode Fixed: Entity inspector shows inherited spawnargs of previous selection Fixed: DR overwrite order for defs is different from TDM's Fixed: X/Y and Camera View bindings don't save properly Fixed: Material Preview rendering Fixed: "Replace Selection with exported Model" sets classname to "func_static". Fixed: Map -> Edit Package Info (darkmod.txt)... crashes DarkRadiant Fixed: Rotating a func_static result to random stretch textures Fixed: DR crashes when syncing with remote Git repository Fixed: Switching visibility of Github repo from public to private causes crash Fixed: Dockable window layout doesn't save new floating XY views Fixed: "Choose skin..." button on custom model spawnargs shows skins for main model spawnarg Fixed: Entity inspector considers inherited colors black Fixed: ReloadDefs moves def_attached light crystals to entity origin Fixed: Option to filter skins out of search results in the Choose Model dialogue Fixed: .lin files can't be opened if different case than .map name Fixed: Model chooser radio box selection issue Fixed: Changing multiple lights between omni/projected resets colours to black Improvement: Allow absolute paths for snapshots Improvement: Light diamonds and Speaker radii are transparent Improvement: Unify Declaration Parsers Improvement: Add "Create Particle" to right-click orthoview drop-down menu Improvement: Revisit Interaction Shader to get closer to the TDM looks Improvement: Entity inspector should recognise spawnargs beginning with "sprS_" as def spawnargs Improvement: UI for worldspawn-to-entity conversion Improvement: classname field should always be read-only, to force use of the "Choose entity class" button Coding: Update solution and build dependencies to Visual Studio 2022 The list of changes can be found on the our bugtracker changelog. Have fun mapping!

I recently replayed that game and I very much disliked that approach to the game. However, it was tightly integrated into the detection / sound system of the game. If there were loud environmental noises playing you could go a little faster without being heard. In practice, I never really used more than 2 or 3 movement speeds.

Be honest, did you just post dogshit artifacted images so that somebody would say "yo those are dogshit artifacted images" and you could bust out this whole spiel about your 100% organic non-GMO 0% body fat computer, and how unlike the other girls you are? Because I can just press print screen and ctrl+v without leaving this page and hey presto a full-res screenshot that's small enough to fit in the forums. But hey now we have a whole thread about it, so that's cool.

More suggestions: 1) Make the mission completed marker more visible. The little green tick that's currently used is barely visible. 2) An option to disable or lower the volume of the mission complete jingle. It's blaring and loud and and a poor way to end what may have been an hour of gameplay in near silence.

Speaking of preordering: I remember buying the alpha version of Minecraft, thinking it would be a brutal and mature dwarf mining experience, which would separate the men from the children. I never upgraded it to its release version, and now I can't even play it anymore, because it ran on Javascript. Minecraft really made me hate children forever, along with child supporters like Cursed who ran the Minecraft forums. Children should stay away from my internet.

Hey, thanks for your feedback, in regards to giving you better detail about this "Eric", it's actually very simple: He is based on a real life friend of mine, who has a similar but sadly much more boring story, he was a farm boy that hated his farm boy life, he decided to go to the city and he realized he hated it, but strangely he enjoyed the "decadence" around it, more so than whatever the farm could offer, so he was into stuff like, good ol' Punk Music, Urban Decay, graffiti and so on, so on. He was also into rebellious things, almost tried drugs, the only "heavy" drug he ever tried is LSD, never ever tried cocaine or heroin. He was one of those you'd call "Good Boys" despite being a lazy rebellious edgy bum or so, I think he was simply smart despite being internally angry, either leftovers of his farmboy life or I dunno, just wanting to be more than that and he knows he can't be. So, the idea in essence is to make a "bored youngster" with a tendency to be quite the rebel. Yes, he is naive, very much so, at least everything about it says so, but there is one thing you should know; in our youth, we're all thought to be incredibly stupid and naive, but I'd love to dare to defy that. And, in real life, I do think my friend did that so, it's one of the reasons he's my best friend. By the way, ironically, right now he's basically his own boss in his own farm, heh! For now, I don't want to talk much about Eric, and I think that "foreshadowing" him will actually give you (specifically, the mappers, not just you) ideas which, right now, I don't want you to. (Although honestly I already gave quite a huge hint now) By the way, another huge hint is that, despite being a farm boy, he can apparently write and read and VERY coherently too. And yet another hint, if you ever heard of the trope "Cowardly Lion", that is one of the personalities I want to give him. Right now, he needs to be the most predictable type of young man you'll ever know, you are NOT supposed to care about Eric, let alone understand him, at least not yet. As for this, I have already taken 2 for granted. ("prepare to be ignored") I've actually wanted to make this YEARS ago, but I had low confidence. Besides, my first days in the TDM forums weren't too pleasant to be honest, but whatever, past is past. I've made a "status" asking people if they'd be okay with ideas, those who answered said it was fine, including Airship Ballet, one of my top favourite FM Makers. ...But, even then, I'm quite a disgusting cynic still and I just have to say that, even I don't trust any of their words. So, it could be more likely than not that this "Library" of mine is my own waste of time, but maybe there will be a future where I turn 80, die of a heart attack and suddenly someone finally decides to make a fan mission in honour of me or whatever. Either way, I find it meaningless (remember I'm quite a cynic) and I also love to take risks, gambling is one of my hobbies, or vices if you are part of that moral compass. If anyone can make a mission based on my ideas, even if it's only 25% of the ideas, I'd be honored. After all, a good mission is a good mission, I have little care in being credited about it, I don't even care if the taffer gets donations and moneys for it, it's just a way of getting extra cash, some will say it's "scummy", I say...As long as you make a very good mission, that's all I care about.

Glad you like it! I don't think I ever changed the fog from the first beta though The hanged man is an unique entity def thing. I downloaded the necessary files from the forums. Sotha was (at least) one of the creators. Bottom line, it's not an ordinary rag doll with a rope attached. I don't know how to create a gibbet though... Here is the package. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwR0ORZU5sraX3k2QWhZZEt2VUU/edit?usp=sharing