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A set of some 200 missions is a lot to sift through to find what one likes. I never used your site but if it provided functionality to search missions for parameters like approximate playtime, series v standalone, and tags like undead, spiders, mansion, city, etc, then it sounds plenty useful. Can the functionality be incorporated into the main web page? Perhaps even integrated to fetch underlying data from the wiki (so that trusted editors can keep the parameters up to date)?

hmm its actually rather advanced and unfortunatly a bit of a pain to setup. one example is hrtf (headphone surround) which requires mapping sound locations with a tool they provide. https://deepwiki.com/kcat/openal-soft/5.3-gui-configuration-tool lists a good deal of which steps needed. for all other cases it is probably better to ask on the github forums for it. attached my own config for dhewm3 which sounds somewhat ok. drop it next to the dhewm3 executable. if you feel up to experimenting you can add your own settings to it alsoft.zip

============== -= IRIS =- ============== WELLINGTONCRAB TDM v 2.11 REQ Ver. 1.3 *For Maureen* -=- "Carry the light of the Builder, Brother. Unto its end." -Valediction of the Devoted "What year is this? Am I dreaming?" -Plea of the Thief Dear Iris, I am old and broken. When we were young it felt like the words came easily. Now I find the ink has long dried on the pen and I'm as wanting for words as coin in my purse. I can tell we are nearing the end of the tale; time enough for one more job before the curtain call... ============== -Installation- Requires minimum version of TDM 2.11 **Dev build dev17056-10800 (2.13) fixes several visual effects which have been broken in the mission since the release of 2.11. For that reason playing with that version or later is currently recommended** -Iris does not support mods or the Unofficial Patch- Download and place the following .pk4 into you FMs directory: Iris Download ============== *Thank you for playing. Iris is a large mission which can either take as quickly or as long as you are compelled to play. I hope someone out there enjoys it and this initial release is not completely busted - I tried the best I could!* *Iris both is and isn't what it seems. If commenting please use spoiler tags where appropriate. If you are not certain if it would be appropriate a good assumption would be to use a spoiler tag* *Support TDM by rating missions on Thief Guild: https://www.thiefguild.com/* ============== WITH LASTING GRATITUDE: OBSTORTTE - Whose gameplay scripts from his thread laid the foundation which made the mission seem like something I could even pull off at all. Also fantastic tutorial videos! DRAGOFER - Who built upon that foundation and made it shine even brighter! And whom also provided immeasurable quantities of help and encouragement the past couple years on the TDM discord. ORBWEAVER & GIGAGOOGA - For generously offering their ambient music up for use. EPIFIRE - Who lent me his fine trash and trash receptacle models. AMADEUS - Who was the first person who wasn't me to play the damn thing and provided his excellent editorial services to improving the readers experience playing TESTERS AND TROUBLESHOOTERS: AMADEUS * DATISWOUS * SPOOKS * ALUMINUMHASTE * JAXA * JACKFARMER * WESP5 * ATE0ATE * MADTAFFER * STGATILOV * DRAGOFER * KINGSAL * KLATREMUS - What can I possibly say? Playing this thing over and over again could not have been easy. Deepest thanks and all apologies. -=THANKS TO ALL ON THE TDM DISCORD AND FORUM=- ==SEE README.TXT FOR ADDITIONAL ATTRIBUTIONS & INFORMATION== HONORABLE MENTION: GOLDWELL - If I hadn't by chance stumbled into Northdale back in 2018/2019 I would probably still be trying to get this thing to work in TDS, which means it probably would not exist - though more details on that in readme. ============== Boring Technical Information: *Iris is a performance intensive mission and I recommend a GTX 1060 or equivalent. I find the performance similar to other demanding TDM missions on my machine, but mileage may vary and my apologies if this prevents anyone from enjoying the mission.* *Iris heavily modifies the behavior of AI in the game, how they relate/respond to each other and the player. So they may act even stranger than they do typically in TDM. Feedback on this is useful - as it can potentially be improved and expanded upon in future patches.* -=- This is my first release and it has been a long time coming! If I forgot anything please let me know! God Speed. 2.10 Features Used:

By "IP", I'm thinking you mean my machine's address (not intellectual property). Yes, if an AI was not privacy-preserving, and actively monitoring for and reporting IRL criminal activity (likely many are), and misconstrued what I was doing, then I see your point. For my particular FM, the phrases don't really imply any criminal acts, just clues. This is not the case for all FMs. In those cases, when untrustworthy AI systems allow rich prompts, it's probably a good idea to specifically indicate you are writing for a fictional mission within a PC game. Also, the activity itself, translating into a fixed suite of multiple languages, is probably not something an actual criminal enterprise would do. Talking in the forums about your FM under development would also show that your intentions are not real-world crimes, and I'd like to think ward off all but the most wrong-headed prosecutions.

The recent Commodore 64 revival is a $300+ box based on an Xilinx FPGA chip that was used in a $100 board 10 years ago. AMD acquired Xilinx for $60 billion in 2022 and has used their IP for things like the "XDNA" NPUs. https://www.cnx-software.com/2025/07/16/fpga-based-commodore-64-ultimate-keyboard-pc-is-compatible-with-original-c64-games/ https://www.cnx-software.com/2015/10/02/digilent-arty-is-a-99-xilinx-artix-7-fpga-board-with-arduino-headers/ That obviously has orders of magnitude greater capabilities than the Shrike-lite board. The "A-Z80" project has implemented the Z80 for FPGAs: https://opencores.org/projects/a-z80 It seems you need over 2,000 "logic elements" to implement A-Z80, so that $4 board doesn't make the cut with "1,120 LUTs". But most FPGAs should be overkill. I don't know about memory requirements related to the FPGA. But for example, the Commodore 64 Ultimate has an overkill amount for all of its components. AI answer: I don't have any experience with this stuff so keep in mind I'm babbling here.

Greetings everyone! I recently got into TDM and am already having a lot of fun playing through and ghosting missions. However, coming from Thief, I am mostly relying on the rules and my experience with that game, while there are clearly differences in how TDM works. Right now, there is talk in the ghosting discussion thread on TTLG to amend the ruleset and include clarifications pertaining to TDM. So I wanted to drop by and ask: is there an active TDM ghosting community already and have any rules for this playstyle been developed? I would also like to ask someone to take a look at the draft of this addendum to see whether everything looks correct: https://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148487&page=16&p=2473352&viewfull=1#post2473352 Thanks!

For the people eager to play with the latest state of development, two things are provided: regular dev builds source code SVN repository Development builds are created once per a few weeks from the current trunk. They can be obtained via tdm_installer. Just run the installer, check "Get Custom Version" on the first page, then select proper version in "dev" folder on the second page. Name of any dev version looks like devXXXXX-YYYY, where XXXXX and YYYY are SVN revision numbers from which the build was created. The topmost version in the list is usually the most recent one. Note: unless otherwise specified, savegames are incompatible between any two versions of TDM! Programmers can obtain source code from SVN repository. Trunk can be checked out from here: https://svn.thedarkmod.com/publicsvn/darkmod_src/trunk/ SVN root is: https://svn.thedarkmod.com/publicsvn/darkmod_src Build instructions are provided inside repository. Note that while you can build executable from the SVN repository, TDM installation of compatible version is required to run it. Official TDM releases are compatible with source code archives provided on the website, and also with corresponding release tags in SVN. A dev build is compatible with SVN trunk of revision YYYY, where YYYY is the second number in its version (as described above). If you only want to experiment with the latest trunk, using the latest dev build gives you the maximum chance of success. P.S. Needless to say, all of this comes with no support. Although we would be glad if you catch and report bugs before the next beta phase starts

I've heard a couple folks voice that but my honest opinion is they're not gonna play near as well on keyboard mouse. Especially when the entire interaction system is built around spatial puzzles. VR content is slowed down considerably, due to the fact it's balanced for the expected (slower) reaction and movement of said system. Not saying it cannot be done but I'd think you'd have to make hefty changes to the core mechanics for that to feel right.

As an artist, one thing that sticks out to me is how lowres much of the environment is. It still is visually cohesive enough to look alright but it's a bit disappointing to get a new game, with much of it's textures being so blurry. I just got done playing through Half Life Alyx again and I'm reminded of how resolution matters when you're under the headset. Because if it looks lowres on my monitor, it'll be even worse when I actually play it. Besides the sparse sets, another thing I'm noticing is the complete lack of Thief (in universe) tech from the old games. The classic bunny-ear electrode receptors look to be all gone and I'd assume they completely ditched the wireless tesla power. Lighting wise, feels like a hard mix of Deadly Shadows plus 2014. But they took that and somehow made it so much more visually generic. I can't understand why studios want to distance themselves so hard from the original material. I'd love to be proven wrong and have it turn out that this is just a budget VR title, paying good homage to a classic. But at this rate, they've gotta really convince me. Wishful me would be hoping the higher ups are saving that for a proper keyboard and mouse experience. If this does happen to sell good for such a niche market, I could see them trying to further revive the brand. Not holding my breath though.

Hello! Tracking down information on software and plug-ins that work with D3 / TDM can be a tough. So I have created a thread here where people can post what software/ plug-ins/ tutorials or other references they've had success or failure with in TDM. 3DS MAX 2013 64bit .ase - Default .ASE model exporter works. However you have to open the .ase file in text edit and manual change the *BITMAP line on each material to read something like: "//base/textures/common/collision" which allows the engine to read the correct material path. md5.mesh / animation - Beserker's md5 exporter/importers for 3dsmax. http://www.katsbits.com/tools, Importing and exporting works. The model must be textured, UV'd, with a skin modifier attached to the bones to export. PM me (Kingsal) for help with this. Imported models using the script will not be weighted appropriately, so this is not recommended if you are simply trying to edit existing tdm content. (Use blender instead) MAYA 2011 32bit md5.mesh - So far I've not had any luck with Maya 2011. I am using Greebo's MayaImportx86 for Maya 2011. I've got the importer working however I get a "Unexpected Internal Failure(kFailure)" and the import fails. This could be due to something finicky in Maya that I am not doing correctly. Will keep trying.. Blender 2.7 about - Blender is commonly used and pretty well supported on the forums/ wiki. Various versions may work as well - https://www.blender.org/download/ md5.mesh / animation Blender MD5 importer/exporter (io_scene_md5.zip): https://sourceforge.net/projects/blenderbitsbobs/files/ Sotha's guide Blender Male/ Female rigs by Arcturus - Here Edit by Dragofer: more links found in this post.

I am pleased to announce the release of our new fan mission, The Hare in the Snare: Part 1 Mission type: City Missions + Inn/Tavern Description: People are being abducted off the streets and a Watch Captain requires the services of a thief to help him find out why. Download link (version 4): https://drive.proton.me/urls/ME63JDKPJ8#cz8NexM0DR75 Credits: Mapping and original characters: @Frost_Salamander Story, readables, custom models, voices and cinematics: @Kerry000 Menu title track produced and mixed by @JackFarmer with selected gigagooga sound samples Beta testers: @Cambridge Spy @Zerg Rush @Amadeus @Acolytesix @Lzocast @wesp5 @nbohr1more @Kerry000 @ate0ate @Wellingtoncrab @prjames Additional thanks: @Dragofer, @nbohr1moreand @peter_spyfor technical help @Springheel for the modules and tutorials @kingsalfor allowing @Kerry000to abuse his manbeast everyone else on Discord and the TDM forums who offered assistance Requirements and notes: This mission requires TDM 2.09. Earlier versions will probably work but you might see one or two missing models. You may experience some FPS drops in some areas with lower-end hardware. Mid-range and above should be fine. If you have issues, I highly recommend you use shadow maps instead of stencil (settings -> advanced -> shadows implementation). It makes a big difference. Screenshots:

Announcing the Release of 'Requiem' for The Dark Mod! Download Download the latest version of the Dark Mod here: http://www.thedarkmo...wnload-the-mod/ Download the mission here: Mediafire: http://www.mediafire...u89/requiem.pk4 Southquarter: http://www.southquar...ons/requiem.pk4 Fidcal.com: http://www.fidcal.co...ons/requiem.pk4 Create a folder in your Dark Mod install with the path "darkmod/fms/requiem" and place the downloaded .pk4 file inside. When you load up The Dark Mod, the mission will appear on the "New Mission" page. Requiem can also be found directly using the in-game loader. Gameplay Notes While this mission is playable in TDM 1.8, for an optimal experience please download and play in TDM 2.0 (or higher). Most inventory items in the game can be dropped, so no need to carry them around after they are no longer of any use. Note that If you use noclip or other console commands while playing, there is a good chance that you will break the intended flow of gameplay. Credits Mapping and Readables: Gelo R. Fleisher Voice Acting: Goldwell Additional scripting: Obsttorte Additional textures and assets: Flanders, Sotha, Grayman, Springheel, Bikerdude, Obsttorte Additional map optimizations: Bikerdude Testers: Bikerdude, Obsttorte, Gnartsch, AluminumHaste, Baal, nbohr1more, PPoe Custom Soundtrack: Leonardo Badinella - http://leonardobadinella.com/ Additional Music: Lee Rosevere - http://freemusicarch...c/Lee_Rosevere/ Marianne Lihannah - http://www.funeralsinger.net/ Vox Vulgaris - http://www.last.fm/music/Vox+Vulgaris/ A note from the author Hi all. While I've been involved in indie game development for a while now, I'm first and foremost a writer. My most recent project has been a novella that tries to capture the visual feel and tone of the Thief series (you can find the link below). As I was writing, I found myself playing a lot of Thief and Dark Mod fan missions, and got to thinking that maybe I wanted to make one myself, as a companion piece to the book. When I finished up writing, I had a bit of down time and decided to take the plunge. Having never done any serious mapping before, my plan was to make a small mission that I could bang out in a month or two and call it a day. Well, as sometimes happens, the project got a little bit bigger than I had planned. Ten months, and lots of elbow grease later, Requiem is finally ready for you to play. I'd like to thank everyone who helped pitch in to help make Requiem come alive, from those who took the time to answer my many questions on the forums to those who actively contributed to the FM. I especially want to thank Bikerdude who served as my mapping mentor, and Obsttorte whose clever scripts really turned what was in my head into the game that you are playing. Above all, I want to thank you for downloading and playing Requiem; I hope you enjoy it. Links of Interest Author's Blog: http://gfleisher.blogspot.com/ Companion Novella (Amazon): http://www.amazon.co...k/dp/B00BYEW02M Companion Novella (Smashwords): http://www.smashword...oks/view/298956

Hey @thebigh this is awesome! Would you mind reporting this over in the ghost report thread here: https://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150710 This is one of those missions we currently don't have a ghost report for, as some reports from the old Square Enix forum got lost. You could simply write in the stats and add a brief description of the main challenging areas like you did above, and I can add it to the archive. Thanks!

Here is another sidequest to run TDM on Android: There is "Winlator", a frontend for WINE on Android. (It is like valve proton) https://github.com/brunodev85/winlator and https://winlator.org/ TDM Windows executable runs on it (using default settings): Got the TDM menu working, but crashes during loading a mission. To me, it is a nice app to run Windows games/applications on Android (such as DR/Thief1234/Steam) But you dont get the native speed and graphics of TDM, like in DIII4a. And it is a battery-energy drainer! ==== Installation in short: Download & install the apk for winlator and accept the app-permissions. In Winlator, create a new container, In the settings of the container, go to drives and point the targetpath for the drive d to the dIII4a folder on the storage. (or somewhere else) start the container. in the application "computer" (file browser), navigate to d-drive > darkmod folder > in the darkmod folder, double-finger-tab on the "Thedarkmod64.exe" > to get the quickmenu and hit "create shortcut". Close the session: hit your phone back-button and in the menu, click on "exit". (start > wine boot > exit windows. > ok.) You will find a shortcut to tdm executable in winlator shortcuts. from shortcuts menu, you can simply run the tdm executable by clicking on the the tdm shortcut. And use the settings menu of the shortcut, to change things of the container. In the session, hit your phone back-button, to get a menu. where you can change the input controls to a overlayed virtual-pad, keyboard, etc. ====

Main post updated with the new version and changelog. I intended to avoid modifying sound files to increase their loudness, but idTech4 doesn't seem to care about ReplayGain tags...

I think we should be able to just blow up doors with mines or other explosives, and windows too!! XD I can see the wish for droppeble keys (even if it could cause getting stuck), for some people like to add their own layer of rules/gameplay on top of the basic and optional reqirements for finishing the mission; get all money, get all secrets, get all objectives, get a perfect stealth score. I salute these who like the TDM missions that much that they want to "supreme ghost" them, and I guess there could even be an extra difficulty level for it in new missions, or even existing missions after some tinkering. That said, I get why the default should be that a key is not dropable, and @wesp5 already seems to have fulfilled @BoilerDunce wishes as an optional function: Forums are a greatl! Also "Supreme ghosting" missions can be made with DarkRadiant, like any other mission, and the forum is here to help you on your way where needed : )

I tried to post on TTLG Forums first, but despite registering i am still unable to make new posts so i asked elsewhere. Meanwhile I figured the problem by simply scaling down cutscenes resolution. My native screen resolution is 1280x800 and cutscenes in that format work well. Sorry for any double posting or using wrong forums for posting my question. Thank you for all the replies and help so far.

I wish you could set a keyboard shortcut for "show size info". I toggle it on and off pretty often and it's pretty slow to go through the menus to get to it. Have a pleasant mapping day.

Download Link: https://filebin.net/62a1qsachwybqorw You'll need to install reshade via selecting the dark mod folder, OpenGL. After Reshade is installed to the game folder, copy the contents of the Tdmreshade.7z to the game folder. Once installed it should popup allowing you to press the "Home" keyboard key to see enabled shaders. Everything should be enabled by default. ATA, SMAA, and Zenteon Framework are all part of the new AA system. Disabling Zenteon Framework and ATA will significantly improve performance, SMAA can be left on with minimal performance impact. Lightroom contains all changes to colors/whitebalance, disabling will restore TDM colors but won't impact performance much. MXAO/Ambient Occlusion is the biggest impact visually and and is set to the highest performance mode, FGFX provides some ambient light scattering/fake volumetric fx, can be disabled for minimal performance gain. Ambient Light can be a bit of a performance hog, so if you need to disable something for more fps I'd start there. If motion is too blurry try setting motion quality to high in the Zenteon Framework shader, or disable ATA and Zenteon Framework entirely if you don't like TAA. It should be a bit cleaner in motion than typical TAA implementation like Unreal. If you like some aspects of the changed coloring but not all, dig through lightroom, many things can be adjusted to taste. If it looks under-saturated you can increase saturation, think of saturation as "color compression" whereas vibrance increases the dynamic range of colors. Adjusting white balance is an easy way to make lighting appear warmer or cooler. Upon revisiting TDM after a 5-10 year hiatus, I've found reshade is actually quite usable now, and can add high quality Temporal AA, Ambient Occlusion (much better than TDM's default/noisy AO, Contrast Adaptive Sharpening (for those who find the in game sharpening is too strong/noisy), and a faked volumetric lighting type effect that runs much better on low end hardware. Not only do these fx often look better than TDM's built in options, in many cases they run better too. I'll post a config when I get around to it, but here's an idea of what it can look like, I also use a color correction shader as well: Before: After:

Websites prove their identity via certificates, which are valid for a set time period. The certificate for forums.thedarkmod.com expired on 10/18/2024. Error code: SEC_ERROR_EXPIRED_CERTIFICATE

Many forums with an off-topic subforum end up with some political talk in there.

Thomas Porter is back in a TDM FM called... LQD is a medium sized FM, made for the TDM unusual contest 2013, where Thomas Porter sets out to get rid of the Lich Queen once and for all! Will he succeed, or will the evil Lich Queen get her sinister revenge on Thomas? The mission was created by me, Sotha. Betatesters: Bikerdude, nbohr1more and Obsttorte are thanked for their efforts on improving this work. Big thanks to TylerVocal for excellent voice acting. Thanks to freesound audio artists: Amliebsh (39222), Steveygos93 (80401), Jackie4ever (83095) and Klankbeeld (133100). Immense thanks for the developer team and everyone contributing to the mod. Release notes: *This mission has player character narration. There is no way to control the volume of the player lines in TDM 1.08 and they are at 100% volume at all times. For optimal experience, be sure to set SFX and ambient close to 100% volume in the in-game audio settings and fine tune the volume to nice levels from you operating system's mixer. That way the world sounds match the player voice in volume and your gameplay experience is not reduced by very loud player narrative. *This mission involves using objects with other objects. Normally objects are used like this: push R to drop the item into your hands, move the item where you want to place or use it. *This mission has a video briefing, so you have the habit of skipping the TDM logo which is visible before the briefing, do not skip it or you will miss the briefing. Download link: Use the ingame downloader to get it. As always, it is not recommended to read the thread further before you have completed the mission. Someone will fail to use spoiler tags. [spoiler] This will be hidden [/spoiler] Enjoy! Please remember to give comments and vote! -Sotha.

Alright, here it is: https://filebin.net/62a1qsachwybqorw You'll need to install reshade selecting the dark mod folder, choose OpenGL. After Reshade is installed to the game folder, copy the contents of the Tdmreshade.7z to the game folder. Once installed it should popup allowing you to press the "Home" keyboard key to see enabled shaders. Everything should be enabled by default. ATA, SMAA, and Zenteon Framework are all part of the new AA system. Disabling Zenteon Framework and ATA will significantly improve performance, SMAA can be left on with minimal performance impact. Lightroom contains all changes to colors/whitebalance, disabling will restore TDM colors but won't impact performance much. MXAO/Ambient Occlusion is the biggest impact visually and and is set to the highest performance mode, FGFX provides some ambient light scattering/fake volumetric fx, can be disabled for minimal performance gain. Ambient Light can be a bit of a performance hog, so if you need to disable something for more fps I'd start there. If motion is too blurry try setting motion quality to high in the Zenteon Framework shader, or disable ATA and Zenteon Framework entirely if you don't like TAA. It should be a bit cleaner in motion than typical TAA implementation like Unreal. If you like some aspects of the changed coloring but not all, dig through lightroom, many things can be adjusted to taste. If it looks under-saturated you can increase saturation, think of saturation as "color compression" whereas vibrance increases the dynamic range of colors. Adjusting white balance is an easy way to make lighting appear warmer or cooler.

ttlg seems to down again at least for me I tried different forums but got same message that there is a problem connecting to site!

This post differentiates between "gratis" ("at no monetary cost") and "libre" ("with little or no restriction") per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gratis_versus_libre * A libre version of TDM could: ** Qualify TDM for an article on the LibreGameWiki *** TDM is currently listed as rejected https://libregamewiki.org/Libregamewiki:Rejected_games_list because "Media is non-commercial (under CC-BY-NC-SA 3.0). The engine is free though (modified Doom 3) (2013-10-19)" ** Qualify for software repositories like Debian *** TDM is currently listed as unsuitable https://wiki.debian.org/Games/Unsuitable#The_Dark_Mod because 1) "The gamedata is very large (2.3 GB)", and 2) "The license of the gamedata (otherwise it must go into non-free with the engine into contrib)" and links to https://svn.thedarkmod.com/publicsvn/darkmod_src/trunk/LICENSE.txt Questions: 1) tdm_installer.linux64 is 4.2 MB (unzipped), which is far from the 2.3 GB which is said to be too large. Yes, the user can use it to download data that is non-libre, but so can any web browser too. If the installer itself is completely libre, does anyone know the reason why it cannot be accepted into the Debian repository? 2) If adding the installer to the repository is not a viable solution, would it be possible to package the engine with a small and beginner friendly mission built only from libre media/gamedata into a "TDM-libre" release, and add user friendly functionality to download the 2.3 GB media/gamedata using "TDM-libre" (similar to mission downloading)? 3) Would such a "TDM-libre" release be acceptable for the Debian repository? 4) Would such a "TDM-libre" release be acceptable for LibreGameWiki? 5) Would the work be worth it? * Pros: Exposure in channels covering libre software (e.g. the LibreGameWiki). Distribution in channels allowing only libre software (e.g. the Debian repository). * Cons: The work required for the modifictions and release of "TDM-libre". Possible maintenance of "TDM-libre". I'm thinking that the wider reach may attract more volunteers to work on TDM, which may eventually make up for this work and hopefully be net positive. 6) Are there any TDM missions that are libre already today? If not, would anyone be willing to work on one to fulfill this? I'll contribute in any way I can. 7) I found the following related topics on the forum: * https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/16226-graphical-installers-for-tdm/ (installing only the updater) * https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/16640-problems-i-had-with-tdm-installation-on-linux-w-solutions/ (problems with installation on Linux) * https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/17743-building-tdm-on-debian-8-steamos-tdm-203/ (Building TDM on Debian 8 / SteamOS) * https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/18592-debian-packaging/ (Dark Radiant) ... but if there are other related previous discussions, I'd appreciate any links to them. Any thoughts or comments?