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This was impressive on many levels! Game play 5 stars Everything went smoothly, no getting stuck on anything. I love all small details (that enhance stuff, without infringing upon gamepley), like the latches on boxes and doors, and small knick knacks. I love that you could move almost anywhere and get where you want without linearity/chokepoints. The possibility to choose your way is a big plus from me; you can take the high road, or you can search for all these little latches and hatches and sneak the sneak way. Lovely! Story 5 stars I have only played Volta 1 so I'm not familiar with everything but that didn't stop me from enjoying the characters and environments. They felt realistic and not over the top. All in all, it felt good to rob that Gordiff of his gambling/smuggler money! Visuals 5 stars Wow! This mission has a buttload of custom assets! I felt from the start, with the custom menu screen and the beautiful briefing/video that this is not your ordinary mission building looser crapdog, sitting in his basement, trying to figure out coding. This is some graphic designer or painter or somebody else with knowledge in the visual arts! Just that video and briefing must be weeks of hard work! Somehow the guards/AI gave me an Thief 2 vibe, I don't know why. Maybe something about the design of the custom people. It felt disconnected with the ordinary mod, definitely in a good way! You're truly a King, mr Sal!

Basically someone always asks. We're all grownups here and it's in spoiler tags so...

On my Linux PC there were visual issues.

Version 1.1 is up in the database. I was having PC problems last night so I couldn't fully validate the fix. I was able to complete the mission and the SVN \ Database was happy. No visual issues or missing pieces, phew!

Of course it is not retroactive. Parallax mapping requires heightmap and height scale, which does not exist for old materials. Also, any kind of parallax mapping introduces visual artefacts and might require tuning for specific use case, so we can't just force it onto everything.

To https://wiki.thedarkmod.com/index.php?title=Teleporting_entities , under the topic "Making an AI Start a Path after Teleporting", at the end I've added a description of this new method, as: Technique 3: "Kicking a Single Path Target Down the Road" Plus a link to the wizard discussion above about Visual and Sound Effects During Teleport

Hello folks, I wanted to share some work in progress comps for the main menu visual updates. (these were done a while ago) These are working in game, but are still just examples. I haven't looked into any of the more complicated menus (settings, mission downloader, slide show mission briefings, ect) Right now I am not planning on changing the UX, these are purely visual updates. EDIT: In-game menus have a requirement that we use the same text color. (so we dont break custom guis in-game) I'll post some mock ups of those soon. Let me know what you think! Using custom missions screenshot (curtesy of @Spooks) Btw this NOT volta 3 (i wish), its just a comp Using the default background art: Mock up of the store (needs some work to make more legible):

Those hand animations are very nice to see, especially the compass animation. Can you make animation for holding / showing the map, like in sea of thieves? (Also asked for in https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/21038-lets-talk-about-minimap-support/#findComment-463678

You might consider setting the 3 following CVars. tdm_ai_debug_blocked tdm_ai_showdest tdm_ai_showtasks They give visual indications as to what an AI is actually trying to do. Compare what happens when it works against when it doesn't. I've seen AI stop patrolling from time to time (but they're not using teleport) and think there's a bug somewhere.

Okidoki, I finally bit the bullet & went with a Recoil 17 from PC Specialist Specs I went for are Chassis & Display: Recoil Series: 17" Matte QHD+ 240Hz sRGB 100% LED Widescreen (2560x1600) Processor (CPU): Intel® Core™ i9 24 Core Processor 14900HX (5.8GHz Turbo) Memory (RAM): 32GB PCS PRO SODIMM DDR5 4800MHz (1 x 32GB) Graphics Card: NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 4080 - 12.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1 External DVD/BLU-RAY Drive 1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (3500 MB/R, 3200 MB/W) Operating System: NO OPERATING SYSTEM REQUIRED The case seems to be made of metal not plastic & there's an optional water cooling unit, which I didn't get For the OS I disabled fast boot & secure boot, loaded Zorin 17.2, used the entire disk, without any installation issues Zorin is a Ubuntu fork so Ubuntu & it's other forks shouldn't have an issue if anyone else gets one of these The only minor issue is the keyboard backlight isn't recognized by default, but the forums are full of info on sorting that out, not that I'm too bothered I've installed TDM & it runs beautifully I also copied my thief 1 & 2 installations from my desktop, I had to uncomment "d3d_disp_sw_cc" in cam_ext.cfg to get the gamma processing working but they run happily too The fans switch on when booting & switch off again after a few seconds, the machine isn't stressed enough to turn them on running TDM so far - this is not a challenge btw On the whole, I'm extremely pleased So thanks for all the advice

Hello all! I'm new here and I VERY WANT to help I am ready to translate and I can put the translations into the missions. (Russian players even made it some sort of a community project, where everyone who wants to help, translates some parts of the missions. I'm currently helping them.) We want to make a complete translation of at least a few missions. (Including briefings, which sometimes coming as a *.dds files. I also can handle it) But... as always there are a few difficulties. - In Russian it is sometimes just impossible to translate things SHORT. (I suspect not only in Russian) - We can not have our own *xd's and *.dds since they are common for all localizations. I think this is the most difficult part for everyone who starts their own localization. And this is not a criticism of developers - they've made a HUGE work already, which we all are thankful for. I saw people writing that they're not playing TDM because of a lack of translation. We - and me personally - really want to help and made things proper. An there's a decision to make. So the main questions are: -is it theoretically possible to handle "num_pages" in a stand-alone file, which can be edited separately for all languages? I suspect this is a Sisyphean task, so if not, then: -can we make a stand-alone version (*.pk4-file), so it can be downloaded separately on FM's page on the TDM website (OR handle it on our own servers (both ways making it impossible to download from TDM updater - and I'm not sure that developers will agree with such a hardcore and radical decision) for localization files (not just *.lang-files)? - any other solution you can come up with. PS. can it be the main topic for Russian localization? Thank you. UPD: In case if someone's interested in our progress, you can track it down here: http://notabenoid.com/book/53218/ (website was closed for non-registered users, sorry) UPD2: The authors (of FMs) are welcomed to give us their permission on translation here: http://forums.thedarkmod.com/topic/16572-translating-missions-mission-author-consensus-request/ UPD3: Fixed Russian fonts can be found/downloaded here - and, yes, - we're working on subtitles and on translation of all audio files; UPD4: 62 missions translated and counting; Public change log; Sill missing testers, but the first reviews were quite good. At this point i'm kinda ready to admit that... UPD5: at this moment we have 76 translated missions UPD6: 90 missions translated and counting... UPD7: 99 missions translated, tested and uploaded on darkfate.org

I think that's more about the visual style of the comic art itself. I wasn't writing about that, although it could be interesting as well, because it could suit the tdm theme well.

uhh i shouldn't anthropomorphize inanimate object like space probes but i can commiserate over voyager space probe loneliness/lonely journey in the outer space. I hope there is a thing out there that can alleviate voyager's loneliness i'm imagining what's inside voyager's mind and its inner conversation : ' i used to knock around with my buddy, voyager 1. Where is he now ? ' ' I brought bulky photos and golden records from the old days, is it possible that the vibe is the same as the intelligence creatures out there who see the condition of the earth from a distance but the visual obtained is the condition of the earth in the past? ' ' where is soviet venera probe, has it kicked the bucket this time ? ' ' why it's so cold here and why am i so stone-deaf in space ? ' ' bloody hell, i am so scared smashing or colliding with space objects here '

Creating a new thread for this as it was being discussed in an old beta-testing thread starting here: https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/21822-beta-testing-high-expectations/&do=findComment&comment=490751 I suppose the main questions are: when should this spawnarg be used, if at all? why was it introduced in the first place? Can we get it documented properly on the Wiki so misuse isn't propagated? @stgatilov @Dragofer

I think we should first decide what do we want TOS for: To protect TDM from legal issues? To protect TDM team from angry mappers in case of conflicts? To guide mission authors in their work? In my opinion TOS should only cover legal issues, and wiki articles about making/releasing missions should cover author guidance. The chance of getting malware in a mission only increases after we write this publicly. Better don't even mention it, we are completely unprotected against this case. By the way, isn't it covered by "illegal" clause? I'm not sure this is worth mentioning, but I guess @demagogue knows better. By the way, which jurisdiction defines what is legal and what is not? Isn't it enough to mention that we will remove a mission from the database if legal issues are discovered? I think this is worth mentioning simply because mappers can easily do it without any malicious intent. We already had cases of problematic assets, so better include a point on license compatibility. It is a good idea to remind every mapper that this is a serious issue. I also recall some rule like "a mission of too low quality might be rejected". In my opinion, it is enough. You will never be able to pinpoint all possible cases why you might consider a mission too bad in terms of quality. And even the specifics mentioned here already raise questions. Having such a rule is already politics. I feel it does not save us from political issues but entangles us into them. If there is a mission which contains something really nasty, it will cause outrage among the community (I believe our most of active forum members are good people). If people are angry, they will tell the mission author all they think about it. And if the author won't change his mind, he will eventually leave TDM community. Then the mission can be removed from the database, perhaps with a poll about the removal. But it sounds like an exceptional case, it is hard to predict exceptional cases in advance. This is not even terms of service, but a technical detail about submissions. The mission should be accompanied by 800 x 600 screenshots. Or we can make them ourselves if you are OK with it. This is again purely technical, and I'm not even sure why it is needed. Isn't it how TDM works? If mapper does not override loading gui file, then default one is taken from core? Is it even worth mentioning? I think we should discuss mission updates by other people in general. This is worth mentioning so that mappers don't feel deceived. The generic rule is that we don't change missions without author's consent. But it is unclear how exactly we should try to reach the author if we need his consent. PM on TDM forums? Some email address? However, sometimes I do technical changes to ensure compatibility of missions with new versions of TDM. Especially since the new missions database has made it rather easy to do. Luckily, I'm not a mapper/artist, so I never fell an urge to replace model/texture or remap something. But still, it is gray zone. On the other hand, I think the truth is: we can remove a mission from database without anyone's consent. I hope it has never happened and will not happen, but I think this is the ultimate truth, and mentioning this sad fact might cover a lot of the other points automatically.

Yeah I'm aware of the use cases - I mainly used it for particles and preventing models from showing up through walls. The point of the thread was to reveal why it was even created, as the thread I linked contains advice from @stgatilov to NOT use it at all: https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/21822-beta-testing-high-expectations/page/10/#findComment-490707 If that's the advice, an explanation is needed and the Wiki updated.

@ArcturusIts probably a combination of things that contribute to gaps in the lightgem read out and the visual perception of how bright you are. I use light gem adjustments and a lot of ambient lights set to "ai_see" "0" I have my reasons for lighting missions this way, but its it a lot of manual work and prone to error. Its a trade off between light gem accuracy and cool lighting @WellingtoncrabNever though to set ambient_world to ai_see 0. Thats a great little trick.

Flakebridge Monastery In this mission you will visit a Builder outpost to steal some valuable books. It is the first in what I hope will be a series about Selis Woderose. I would like to take the opportunity to thank my beta testers: Aprilsister, Bikerdude, Chiron, lost_soul, and prjames. As well as Fidcal for his starting map, and Melan for his texture pack. Known bugs: A small number may appear at the bottom left corner of your screen when the mission loads. Press sheath weapon to make it disappear. As already mentioned this is the first mission in a series. When you have completed it you may know what you'll be going after in the next mission. You may even know where! Enjoy! And please use spoiler tags where appropriate. A couple of screens: (thanks lowenz) http://2.bp.blogspot...0/shot00001.jpg http://3.bp.blogspot...0/shot00003.jpg

Hi, I need to know what the code is to use Spoiler Tags. I am using my tablet and I don't have the options to use anything, like spoiler tags, quote tags, text changes etc. Thanks

You can start here: https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/12558-useful-important-editing-links/ Specifically, I recommend Springheel's new mapper's workshop: https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/18945-tdm-new-mappers-workshop/

No idea about the plot but the mechanics. Pretty much the same gameplay like in the first two Thief games but with non-linearity of Thief 3. Wide open sandbox areas, not those smaller areas divided to tiny sections with loading screens like in Thief 3. And of course very interactive game world. I really don’t like having Dishonored powers in Thief or such. I prefer agile character having good climbing and platforming ability in first person view. Like in Mirror’s Edge games. Beam walking, swinging poles, rope and ledge climbing, wall running, and or course swimming and diving ability too. I also don’t like Focus ability of Thief 4 or any other “vision modes”. Just standing still for a few secs would give a subtle visual hints about guard whereabouts. Something like the Alertness skill in Dark Messiah. No health potions, but some sort of bandages giving slow healing over time. So combat would be more risky when having no instant healing method. And when wounded, the player character could leave some blood stains to give away his location to guards. Many equipments and lots of upgrades to buy with the loot. Blunt arrows bouncing off walls and working like the blackjack, but guards wearing helmets would be immune to both. No moss arrows but an upgrade to muffle footsteps. And of course the same rope arrows back like in Thief 1. And shooting a rope arrow at enemy would ensnare him like that fibercord the Mandalorian is using.

Not so long ago I found what could make a pretty good profile picture and decided to try it out on these new forums. But I couldn't find a button anywhere that would let me change it. I asked on Discord and it seems Spooks also couldn't find anything anywhere. So I logged into an old alternative account and, lo and behold, that account has a button. This is on the first screen I get when I: 1) click on my account name in the top-right of the browser -> 2) click on 'profile'. Compared to my actual account: Are you also missing this button on your account? It'd be very much appreciated if that functionality could be restored to any of the affected accounts.

A couple more: https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/21739-resolved-allow-mantling-while-carrying-a-body/ https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/22211-feature-proposal-new-lean-for-tdm-212/ https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/22198-feature-proposal-frob-to-use-world-item/ https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/22249-212-auto-search-bodies/

Bonus 1: The system can also be used to simulate simple soft body physics. Obviously collisions will not be affected and vertex deforms are done by shader and purely visual. But it can also be used to make movables with soft parts have those bits that lag behind when moved, for example a pillow can have its edges pushed behind slightly if you frob to pick it up then throw it or move the camera around to make it dance in the air. Bonus 2: Explosions such as mines or the fire arrow should also create a temporary wind source, in RE grenades do this and make all trees move away from the blast. Bonus 3: If portals connect rooms with different wind values, opening a door should make vertices and particles near it waver to simulate drafts through doors and windows.