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  1. Have a friend who is interested in Dark Radiant and wanted to look at my map. When they load it, all models that I've made appear as grey boxes. If they try to create a model, my models don't appear. I did include my models inside the fm, so I'm not sure how to get it to recognize it as a valid directory. Not even selecting 'Reload Models' gets it to recognize it. Anyone have any ideas of how to fix this?
  2. Have you guys ever noticed this English gentleman? https://piped.kavin.rocks/channel/UCSqIEwL7Olwd_krFWhEsTIg He has done plenty of Dark Mod mission playthroughs. I checked several of his walkthroughs the past few weeks and I have the impression he is playing the missions thoroughly and very, very slowly - to clarify: he's playing TLC from my HH series right now and towards the end the session already has 10 (!) videos of 40-60 (!!) minutes each....but then again I recall that before beta I myself estimated a playing time of five to seven hours, so... Anyway, he also played my favorite DM mission The Accountant 2 sometime ago - I will definitely watch all related videos in the next days as I have the feeling that it will be quite interesting because of the level design. So if you're looking for playthroughs where the player really sneaks through the mission and suspects the end (or something even worse) behind every wall, then you've come to the right place.
  3. I don't think there's a link to thedarkmod.com on forums.thedarkmod.com ...

    1. datiswous

      datiswous

      Yeah and the wiki and moddb. It should have those links in the footer I think. Probably easy to add by an admin.

      Edit: And a link to the bugtracker. I'm always searching for a post in the forum that links to that because I can't remember the url.

    2. Petike the Taffer

      Petike the Taffer

      I drew attention to this several times in the last few years. No one payed it any attention, so I just gave up.

    3. duzenko

      duzenko

      Reluctance to improve the forums is matched by reluctance to allow more people to work on it. Talk about trust and power.

  4. @Fiver - Old thread I know, but in light of my own recent attempts I can say that all the core scripts are GPL3 apart from these six files: tdm_grandfather_clock.script tdm_turret.script tdm_audiograph.script tdm_camgoyle.script tdm_safe_lock.script tdm_safe.script These are not essential scripts in regards to the engine loading and being able to run round an empty test map. The below .def files can (and were) recreated as their default values are in the source code: tdm_soundprop.def tdm_ai_base.def However, the following .def files are essential and unfortunately cannot be recreated without actually looking in the files themselves (or using Dark Radiants' entity class tree list, but I'm guessing this information is gathered from the .defs @OrbWeaver? so is still under the CC_BY_NC_SA_3 licence?) to see what information/entity definitions they contain: tdm_base.def tdm_ai_head_base.def tdm_ai_heads_springheel.def tdm_difficulty.def tdm_inventory_loot.def tdm_player_thief.def tdm_weapon_base.def tdm_weapon_unarmed.def I believe the above files were created by both @greebo and @Springheel so, if they said it was okay to recreate them based on the values/variables within them (or if multiple authors of the .def files gave permission) then it would be possible to get a basic playable version (by which I mean running round a test map). I do know from my testing that if you mess up a definition you crash the engine Anyway, attached is an image showing the most basic of basic setup for getting the engine running a test map with all of the non-GPL3 content (by which I mean core engine files - not the whole TDM file structure of tetxures,sounds,models, etc. just to clarify) removed and replaced with permissively licenced assets (the only non-permissive files still used being those 8 .def files mentioned above). The lightgem does work, but I of course had to replace the UI and never put any gui:: calls in, also the cursor is stuck on screen all the time and all my white backgrounds on my simplistic custom main menu turned black. @MirceaKitsune thanks to you releasing your character pack under CC0 it gave a test player model (though as you can see the original player_thief def file does break it somewhat).
  5. I've been involved in the TDM community now since before we had a game, since way back when we were arguing over lock picking methods lol Finally, I'm finished with Briarwood Manor - my first Fan Mission for The Dark Mod. I've been hatching this for a year so I'm wrapped it's finally done. Briarwood Manor Crowind - made the Briefing for the mission: This is the HD version. Briarwood Manor is a old manor house built and added on to over the years which gives it it's design. The family part is the original home, and two other parts were added on later. Inspiration came from an image in the TDM Editors Inspiration thread. Available through in-game downloader. - available also in the link below. Update Version 1.93 - Fixed a few issues that surfaced, and added a sign to the Armory because people were missing it and thinking the mission was very thin on resources. Remaining Issue: - DO NOT BE SEEN BY THE STEWARD AT ALL! Update Version 1.91 - Removed an erroneous LARGE file that had accidently been in the mission blow the mission size up dramatically other assorted bugs fixed that were pointed out by the Community. Thank you Also replaced the missing script file that controlled the Drop Key which I accidently deleted. LOL Update Version 1.9 - Fixed a bug caused by roof projecting into the sleeping maids room upstairs. Update Version 1.81 - Fixed a bug caused by a faulty newspaper readable that I couldn't fix, so I converted it to a static model that is no longer frobbable. Update Version 1.8 - Fixed a problem with a patch that somehow got misaligned in the previous version of the level creating a ceiling shadow. Update Version 1.7 - Fixed some brush splitting, and a problem with the stairs. Also fixed a readable problem, and a few other minor problems. Added little more detail around the woodshed. Update Version 1.6 - Fixed problem with Crowleys Diary, and a screwed up shadow in the old well. Update: Version 1.5 - Resolved the problems with the Steward and the Dropkey. They should never be a problem again. Unless you decide to hit him, then you are going to break him from his route lol. Fix an sound issue, and fixed a problem where the player could get into places he shouldn't until the right time. lol Improved the performance for the garden area. It should be playable for low end PC's now. If you get stutter issues, drop your video settings, especially the LOD setting. With LOD set to Very Low, Fog will be gone, and detail will be dropped a lot at a distance. The higher you raise your LOD the more you get. ie at LOW LOD Fog comes back. Experiment so you get a setting your PC is happy with. You can use the console command com_showfps 1 to see what FPS you are getting. 30 and above are acceptable. Enjoy. Update: Version 1.4 - Resolved (partially the drop key issue - save before you go into Stewards room, fixed many other minor problems picked up by Abusimplea. Added a new room, made the map a bit more open, solved some of the difficulty issues people had. The map should now be ghostable. I hope. Should be added to the in game downloader within a day or so depending. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1I_-ZJDGUtK7P4-b5zsGsEcYAH0vYdgnw/view?usp=sharing If you download from this link, top right arrow pointing down, is how you download it. Click it. A few things to note: 1+ Hour of gameplay - Easy Difficulty is intended for new players. Hard/Expert for most of the TDM Community. This is a challenging map for new players. Use your tools Features a custom intro (above) and a few custom sounds, and some voice acting. Warning: This mission is not for low end PC's. The house is fine, but the garden will make lower end PC's grind. The map has been made sensitive to LOD settings. So if it's grinding you're PC drop you're LOD settings for it, then you can return them to normal once you've finished. On my Medium PC gtx 760 with Normal LOD I get 30 to 60 fps in the garden. I upgraded to GTX 1070 and get pretty good 60 fps in the garden. Briefing Video made by Crowind and I can't thank him enough. He did an amazing job of this. I was so lucky to have him do this. Cast: Voice Actors (Intro) : 1St Merchant: Crowind, 2nd Merchant: Mykel19XX Corbin: Goldwell Voice Actors (Mission): Corbin played by Goldwell, Morgan Crowley played by V-Man, Giles MacCadie (Steward) played by myself Thank you to my Beta Testers: Cambridge Spy, OldJim, V-Man, Jaxa, duzenko and Bikerdude. Cambridge Spy and OldJim did most of the hard grind in finding problems, so thank you both so much. If you are stuck or need help, fastest way to reach me is message me on my youtube channel (link bottom of this post). Use the resources you were given and you should have no problems. Otherwise post spoiler free in this thread. TIP: Don't be seen by the Steward, or he might glitch out. Credits: Crowind put my briefing text into a more thiefy style for Goldwell to voice. He also helped with refining the trailer for the mission. Bikerdude (did the coal door for me and let me use his moonbeam method) and sorted the performance side of things out and thereby taught me how to do performance., grayman for providing a script to handle the drop key (Abuseinplea for fixing it from bouncing) and grayman for solving some conversation problems. EHR+ or showing me how to do the double secret door and Fidcal for his Fidcal's A-Z tutorial for Dark Radiant. Without this starting point I would not have started. Changes 1.2 to 1.93 - Added a second way to get into the building - Dining Room and Parlour doors now pickable, to make it bit less linear - Electric Light in Lobby dropped it's luminosity from 240 to 220 Little bit darker. - Door on the landing (catwalk) is now unlocked - Spider no longer walks down to the ladder, or clips into the floor. - Opened up the level more so you can choose more how you want to tackle it; except for family rooms (top of stairs) - Fixed a graphical bug with the back stairs caused by TDM upgrading to 2.06 - Added some plants around bottom of garden wall alongside cart. I don't like seeing planes meeting. lol - Made some changes to the fog in the garden. - Fixed a problem with the newspaper that was allowing the no frobbing bug to occur. Enjoy Neon PS: Why does TAB key no longer tab? It drops to the bottom of the page. I have to say I hate this editor.
  6. Horror themed fan mission - exploration of seemingly deserted keep in the middle of swamps. Spiders, undead, darkness. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the story about the fate of my family. My uncle, Ralph Mac Roberts, is the baron of a keep nestled deep within the Rahenaen marshes. It was once an important outpost tasked with guarding one of the few Builder roads that cross the marsh, but after the Inventor`s Guild built a system of nearby dams that flooded the whole land, the road closed and there was no longer anything to watch over anymore. The keep itself needed reinforcement against the raising water level and the trade routes become almost impassable, not only for the carriages but for lone couriers as well. There hadn`t been any messages coming from the keep for over a year and my father was about to assemble a caravan so he could go on an expedition to the keep himself. However, in the middle of the night before he was set to leave, a carrier pigeon landed on his windowsill. My father received the letter and read the apologies from my uncle and his family, excusing their long absence. As a way to make reparations for their extended silence, my uncle invited me to the keep to stay there for a fortnight or so. My uncle had instructed me to leave my horse three leagues away from the keep by the nearest charcoal burning hut and hike the remainder of the road on foot, as the trek through the marsh is treacherous for horses. The weather will be awful this time of year, but my father insists that I should go anyways to ensure that our relatives are okay. These plains become dreadfully deserted - to the point where you more expect to meet the dead than the living. And by the way - I think I`m lost. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Download link: https://1drv.ms/u/s!Aj1DVS465udZgVkXteBbr6cUxdPH Thanks: to the TDM team for great tools, and all the contributors for their assets, to betatesters: Amadeus, Bienie, Boiler's_hiss, Dragofer, Filizitas, Judith, nbohr1more, s.urfer, again to Amadeus for proofreading and text tweaks, and to all the players for their time! Few screenshots: http://forums.thedarkmod.com/topic/10003-so-what-are-you-working-on-right-now/?p=434716 http://forums.thedarkmod.com/topic/10003-so-what-are-you-working-on-right-now/?p=429558 http://forums.thedarkmod.com/topic/19886-fm-marsh-of-rahena-beta-testing/?p=434507 Enjoy! Walk-through !major spoilers! Finding a way across the marsh area: Getting inside: Bed objective: Light sources: Maps: Enemies: Room objective: Hut objective: Sealed objective: Gold: Key: Bodies:
  7. Cool, though I've heard mixed opinions about first two games. I have some fun with Spirited Thief. It's not FPS or TPS, it's top-down stealth turn-based tactics in style of Invisible, Inc.: you control several thieves who are breaking into mansions and hideouts and steal artefacts from them. Guards become gradually aware of you from turn to turn. You can peek through the windows, keyholes, rob or KO guards, search for secrets etc. The main differences from Invisible, Inc. is that maps are handcrafted and not procedurally generated and also there is friendly ghost who makes some reconnaissance at the beginning of each mission. The setting is similar to Thief and Dark Mod though: semi-fantasy/steampunk city with nobles, thieves' guild etc. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1709870/Spirited_Thief/?l=english
  8. I am pleased to announce the release of our new fan mission, The Hare in the Snare: Part 1 Mission type: City Missions + Inn/Tavern Description: People are being abducted off the streets and a Watch Captain requires the services of a thief to help him find out why. Download link (v1.0.2-release): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HYvM_u56wDB16uIlb7qgS_q3P24V69MO/view?usp=sharing Credits: Mapping and original characters: @Frost_Salamander Story, readables, custom models, voices and cinematics: @Kerry000 Menu title track produced and mixed by @JackFarmer with selected gigagooga sound samples Beta testers: @Cambridge Spy @Zerg Rush @Amadeus @Acolytesix @Lzocast @wesp5 @nbohr1more @Kerry000 @ate0ate @Wellingtoncrab @prjames Additional thanks: @Dragofer, @nbohr1moreand @peter_spyfor technical help @Springheel for the modules and tutorials @kingsalfor allowing @Kerry000to abuse his manbeast everyone else on Discord and the TDM forums who offered assistance Requirements and notes: This mission requires TDM 2.09. Earlier versions will probably work but you might see one or two missing models. You may experience some FPS drops in some areas with lower-end hardware. Mid-range and above should be fine. If you have issues, I highly recommend you use shadow maps instead of stencil (settings -> advanced -> shadows implementation). It makes a big difference. For 'Hard' and 'Expert' the light gem sensitivity has been increased by '1' (meaning easier for AI to detect you). Screenshots:
  9. Heyo, I was asked if I would do a familiariisation of Dark Radiant for new mappers, so they can quickly learn what's what in DR and how to use it. It's not a mapping tutorial, but more just a get familiar with DR. It'd be good if this is useful, if it would be stickied so it's always available for new mappers. Springheels,Sothas, and Fidcals tutorials are all in the description of the video.
  10. My system is a bit off the wall, it won't play new triple A titles that well but it plays the Dark Mod and missions perfectly and anything else I am wanting to play. It is an Intel Core i5 8400, 48Gb ram, GTX980ti and Asus Xonar Essence soundcard running on Linux. The coup de grace is a beautiful Dell P1130 CRT. It makes games like Thief and the Dark Mod absolutely shine.
  11. Dark Souls is a joke. Try changing the seat covers of a maxi cosi child car seat... It's utter agony! 😄

    1. Baal

      Baal

      Did you remove the child first?

  12. I never realised there was a Dark Mod Twitter account. Perhaps it was banned and waiting for Elon Musk to unban it.

    1. thebigh

      thebigh

      It was dormant for a very long time. Earlier this year I took it over and basically use it to announce new maps when they're released, and celebrate old ones on their birthdays.

    2. datiswous

      datiswous

      I wondered if (some of these) posts should go on the News page . Curently you usually only see a post when there is a new release (so once a year)..

    3. JackFarmer

      JackFarmer

      @OrbWeaver

      Apparently unbanning was not the only thing, there was seemingly also some sort of unblocking: Several users on Mastodon have reported that Musk, whom they blocked on Twitter in the past, suddenly became unblocked on their Twitter accounts...

  13. This new Twitter block looks kinda bad on the Forum's dark theme. Also, why is this info shown here on the forum anyway?

     

    I would like to see an option at least to disable it.

    Although I guess I could use some css..

    image.png.01cc0e7788c73b42c5932230f8cb2b2c.png

    Edit: This seems to do it:

    /* Remove Twitter timeline */
    .twitter-timeline {
        display: none !important;
    }
    1. Dragofer

      Dragofer

      It seems it can only be set to either black or white, independent of users' theme.

      It seems quite a few of us didnt know that the Twitter account was still in active use.

    2. datiswous

      datiswous

      I heard @thebigh took over activity

    3. datiswous

      datiswous

      You can't make it transparent?

      But like I said, there's no point in having a twitter block on the forum. If you want to follow, use twitter, but it should not show here.

  14. Hey everyone, since The Dark Mod 2.10 has been released, will the version 2.11 release with bugfixes?
  15. I just dreamed that I was on a Dark Tranquility concert and then the vocalist took me out of the massive crowd on the stage just to leave it with me and the band together. We went to the back stage where they showed me a game they were developing with the crowd outside waiting for the next song. Then we went out for dinner and ice skating in an abandoned mall. lol

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    2. freyk

      freyk

      Thanks for sharing this dream.

      In every dream, there is a message to yourself. To get this message use a dreamsymbols dictionary.

    3. SeriousToni

      SeriousToni

      @freykWell I'm not sure what to search for in the dictionary, since it was a pretty complex situation. My guess would be that I miss the guys from DT and the live concerts.. and the alcohol haha :D

    4. freyk

      freyk

      In the following dreamsymbols dictionary

      http://m.dreammoods.com/site/dreammoods#2843

      Search for keywords: concert, vocal, stage, etc.

  16. This is a thread for members to post inofficial hotfix patches in. These hotfixes are for people who want to keep using stable official releases of The Dark Mod and Dark Radiant, but with somewhat less bugs. These patches will overrule parts of the official release, and are therefor only compatible with the specific version of TDM/DR that they were created to patch. It is therefor necessary that you keep track of which hotfixes you installed, and uninstall them all when you upgrade to a new TDM/DR version. If any bugs persist in a future version, it's best to wait for a new patch to be released for that version. At time of writing, the official released versions are The Dark Mod version 2.10, and Dark Radiant version 2.14.0. When posting a patch, please include which version it is for. (Patches for developer versions are allowed, but don't expect those versions to last long.) Developers, keep in mind that while these patches will point you in the direction of a problem, the patch solution will sometimes differ from an official release solution. (For example, we can't rename packaged files, and so we have to sometimes refer to badly named ones.) It's possible that I - Nort - will be the only one posting these patches, and I'm fine with that. Update After having worked out a lot of patches during these past weeks, I've attached version 1.0 of my hotfix pack to this post. This pack makes all my previous hotfixes obsolete. Details about what they contain, are in the included release notes, because the list is too long to post here. The main features is the fixed console warnings, as well as the fixed mages. (Do not miss these mages. They are eating apples and everything.) If you have any questions about any changes, just ask. Version: The Dark Mod 2.10, Dark Radiant 2.14.0 Small correction: The release notes should say: "This new file creates defines several placeholder shaders. Placeholder shaders are mesh defaults which skins can refer to without risking conflicts with other meshes sharing the same skin. They are not simply misnamed shaders, or deprecated legacy shaders." Update Dark Radiant version 3.0.0 released today, so my patch version 1.0, only stayed relevant for about 24 hours. ...and that's fine. A great changelog of Progress, is all I ever wanted. While devs should still download my patch to see if everything in my patch change log has been addressed (which I doubt), normal users should instead go download Dark Radiant 3.0.0, where every change is official. Once I've assembled enough mental strength to begin over from the beginning again, I will start working on the next patch. It will likely take a shorter time to make this time. Update Remember, before uninstalling any def files, to first remove any entities they have created, mainly the noble and mage ragdolls. If Dark Radiant can't find the definitions for entities, it won't display them in the map. I don't know if they still remain in the code, and you probably don't want invisible obsolete entities in your map, so it's cleanest to remove the entities from the map before removing the patch files. Update I've decided to post-pone any further development until Dark Radiant release 3.1.0. The 3.0.0 was a big update, and big updates will typically come with smaller unforeseen issues. One such issue is that whole numbers aren't being displayed properly. It's thankfully only a cosmetic issue, but since it's so in-your-face, I think that the devs are likely dealing with other issues as well, and that the next update will be coming as soon as possible. ...so I think 3.1.0 will be more stable, and will come soonish.
  17. Unfortunately, I don’t think this is possible—at least not with the way the mod is currently implemented. All the models and animations are tied to the “unarmed” weapon entity, not the player entity. In order to have the legs and the rest of the body, we would need to add the models and animations to the player entity and modify the source code to allow the body to be visible, kind of like how it's done here. I did initially try this method but realized that the existing model/animations are a bit of a mess and it would be a LOT of work to make it look good. Also, I chose to do it this way to allow the mod to be compatible with everything, since the script and def files for the "unarmed" entity aren’t modified by any FMs (as far as I know—I haven’t tested them all). I assumed that someone may have tweaked the player files for their FM, as those are far more relevant than the "unarmed" files (which are essentially blank in the vanilla game). If I had overwritten them, I’d risk breaking their mission. There has been some discussion in the forums about having full body awareness and there didn't seem to be a lot of interest in it. Plus, it could end up being immersion-breaking. Imagine standing on a small rope and then looking down, only to see your feet just kind of floating in midair.
  18. Is there a place where I can get a copy of the original, high-quality render (JPEG, PNG, etc.) of The Dark Mod logo? (the clock without text) The closest I've found is at https://wiki.thedarkmod.com/index.php?title=Concept_Art_and_Fan_Art_Archive ("Loader screen concept")
  19. Dark Radiant rocks.

  20. You are assuming way too much, and you're creating artificial pressure. Nobody in the public forums knows whether TDM team even considered including this feature in TDM core, regardless of its completion state or quality. Obviously you have right to have a personal opinion on the modification itself (which I think is cool too). Sorry for the offtopic here Jivo, you're doing great, and don't let this little side note distract you from your work
  21. Hey all! I haven't properly played the Dark Mod since 2.05 or maybe even 2.04 until now and I've noticed that whatever I do in game the center and LFE channels of my 5.1 sound system remain silent. In other words, the output is actually 4.0 (2 front + 2 rear speakers) rather than 5.1. Now, I am not sure exactly but I recall no problems previously - until the EFX update 2.06, I think. I even found my older post about extremely loud LFE channel here: http://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/18741-really-loud-music/&tab=comments#comment-405277 As I understand, it is often made that the center and LFE channels are reserved for special sounds and not used often as the front speakers. For example, in Witcher3 center is mostly used for voices in the dialogs and the best way to check LFE is to use the aard sign magic. Or, in Skyrim it is known that LFE plays only when the dragon hits the ground. The first question is: do I have an issue with sound or not? Because maybe the sound output is ok and I've simply met no specific conditions utilizing the center and LFE channels? Minding my previous paragraph, I don't think it's EFX related but maybe the sound shaders simply changed since 2.05? This all brings me to another question: is there a way to check somehow in the Dark Mod wether the game outputs the sound correctly? About my setup now. I output sound via HDMI to Pioneer receiver with 5.1 setup. Everything works fine in modern games that provide 5.1 output support like the Witcher3 or Mortal Kombat 10 and 11. The windows sound configuration in control panel allows me to check all the speakers and it's fine. I have win 7 64 bit, OpenAl installed. The Dark Mod allows me to set 5.1 sound in options with no warning (I know that in other cases it gives a message like "your system does not support this sound configuration"). Please, help me to find out if anything's wrong with my setup and why my center and LFE channels are silent. Hate to start new threads but I didn't find anything related to my problem. Moreover, I feel the lack of sound-related discussions considering our community's interests.
  22. @stgatilov Even better news! The following commit fixed this issue regardless of r_tonemapOnlyGame3d setting. r10930 | stgatilov | 2025-01-25 | 7 lines Clear background during main menu. This fixes the issue e.g. with AT1: Lucy and tonemap disabled. The briefing there does not use any backgrounds, and no-clear policy results in HOM-like effects. Originally reported here: https://forums.thedarkmod.com/index.php?/topic/22635-beta-testing-213/#findComment-499723
  23. There's no forum feedback section, so I post it here. So I think the Dark forum theme is not dark enough (for me) and some of the graphics are not good. So I did some css edits and implemented these on the forum via the Stylus plugin for Firefox (or Chrome). There are other solutions to directly alter forum css, but I will not go into that for now. To make it look properly you have to first activate the default dark theme of this forum (which is weird enough not the default theme), if you've not done that yet (scroll to the bottom middle part of the forum, where there's a pulldown menu called theme). Here is my current code: You can try it out and see how it looks. It also improves the looks of the like buttons on the side. I keep tweaking it and updating this post, so it might not completely look like in the supplied screenshots. Summery of extra custom edits that are more opinionated:
  24. I really hope there won't be a complete lack of consistency in the future, with everything FM authors or contributors to coding want to change about the mod the whole time... Some FMs already play as if they were from a parallel universe. To illustrate the problem: Imagine a new player getting into the mod. He will play The Training mission, and maybe some of the older missions, which don't modify weapon, enemy, or light gem/shadow behavior. Then he gets into some of the new missions, and needs to re-learn in every mission the conditions, because the FM author chose to modify weapons, make the player always visible, change A.I. behavior, or even change or introduce new weapons. I appreciate the cerativity, and understand that some want to extend the gameplay possibilities. But, it always comes with the, in my eyes, big penalty of making the player adapt to the new conditions, and every single mission, and, some things he can't know, and he'll be very surprised that the mission behaves the way it does. I really hope FM authors go back to the roots again one day, and don't overwhelm the player with thousands of changes and additions, which make the missions and the Dark Mod unvierse less coherent and uniform, and confuse the player.
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