TDM in The News

[wesp5]

Nice review and its pointed me to a game I have never heard of - Republique Remastered. Looks bloody awesome, amnd while I was there I spotted Deus Ex: The Fall

Hm, the former looks like third person view to me which I don't like, even in a stealth game. Although it's hard to say with all the cutscenes mixed in...

Edited August 3, 2015 by wesp5

[Destined]

It is true, that it looks like 3rd person, but that is what makes this game special. You do not play the person sneaking about, you play a hacker, watching and helping the personl, that sneaks about. I think it is something different, and that's why it looks interesting.

[SteveL]

Why do I have to enter a captcha to go to this website. And cookies? Fuck that.

 

I didn't get a captcha, it just went straight to the article.

 

Their TDM screenshot -- is that from Protecting the Flock?

[AluminumHaste]

That's Sotha's map, the one where you cross the rooftops.

 

EDIT: found it, Phrase Book:

 

http://www.moddb.com/mods/the-dark-mod/images/the-phrase-book-images3#imagebox

[wesp5]

You do not play the person sneaking about, you play a hacker, watching and helping the personl, that sneaks about.

Republique Remastered: So you don't move at all yourself, but just open doors at the right moment and similar?

Edited August 3, 2015 by wesp5

[AluminumHaste]

well since you are too lazy to look yourself, here: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Republique+gameplay

[wesp5]

well since you are too lazy to look yourself, here: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Republique+gameplay

Thanks for the link, but a short line would have spared me watching 20 minutes of rather boring gameplay .

Interesting idea though, but too slow for my taste even for a stealth game...

[AluminumHaste]

[Gantolandon]

The Dark Mod playthrough by Bobbin Threadbare from SA has been finished and archived in the LP Archive.

[Moonbo]

A Youtube reviewer I follow just summed up his thoughts on the mod:

 

[Airship Ballet]

game is hard

[New Horizon]

I wonder if he bothered to adjust the AI sight and hearing in the menu options?

[demagogue]

What we need is a mapper like KFort that makes really snowball powderpuff easy but cute missions for the snowball powderpuff demographic. (Not that that represents this guy.) But there should be an FM for all types IMO.

[New Horizon]

Or a mandatory mission that puts the player on rails, sits them at a table and refuses to let them install or play any mission until they've read the entire manual. lol

[nbohr1more]

Jesps "Mad's Mountain" has been noted to be on the easier side with easy difficulty set. I'm not sure how applicable that is now with all the AI enhancements

and Hearing\Vision sliders (etc) since he released it.

[Springheel]

If you look at some of the clips he posted, they included some very difficult missions, including Beleaguered Fence, which is pretty punishing for newer players.

 

If we were going to add one thing to the mission download page, a difficulty indicator is what I would choose.

[Melan]

Maybe we need a tagging system for the mission downloader, and a special filter for newbie-friendly missions? It could also be added to the FM list on the wiki, although who knows how many people read it.

 

And I will always happily play snowball powderpuff easy but cute missions.

[Petike the Taffer]

I might be at fault here, since I recommended this to him about a week ago. Still, it gives us some exposure, even if he found it a bit hard.

 

Jesps "Mad's Mountain" has been noted to be on the easier side with easy difficulty set. I'm not sure how applicable that is now with all the AI enhancements

and Hearing\Vision sliders (etc) since he released it.

 

Yeah, I can testify to that. Mad's Mountain has quite a bit of climbing and even a bit of swimming, but it's not a particularly hard mission.

[AluminumHaste]

Yeah that's my recollection also of Mad's Mountain, it's not hard.

[SeriousToni]

I wonder if he bothered to adjust the AI sight and hearing in the menu options?

 

Does anyone have personal contact to this user? Petike maybe? I would be really keen to know if he did adjust those settings to his liking.

[HMart]

After playing TDM for awhile i feel the old games are just easy, too easy in fact that i think this is why people used to them will feel TDM is hard, and i never play TDM at the highest difficulty.

 

His opinion about the sound tho, i concur, compared to the old games TDM sound system is basic, just hope that with the new OpenAL/ EFX on the 2.04 version you guys can change that.

[AluminumHaste]

Just finished playing Mad's Mountain on Highest difficulty with AI set to 1 step below hardcore for hearing and seeing. Ghosted and knocked out everyone.

Damn this game is getting too easy.

[demagogue]

Hopefully some people get curious about it, like when somebody says you don't want to try this salsa because it's way too hot. That just stokes their curiousity.

 

He had the funny habit of attributing things like AI to Doom3 when those are really entirely ours. But sound is a Doom3 engine issue. Sound follows portals and not Roombrushing like Thief, so sound can go through walls. But roombrushing for Thief had issues too if you pay attention. It limits what mappers can do, and we don't have that problem. So, you know, pros and cons. But maybe we can improve the system?

[rich_is_bored]

Portals and leafs should be more than adequate for directional sound. All you're looking to do is trace a path (ideally all possible paths) from the source to the player. Then you attenuate the sound based on the size of portals that have been passed through, the angle of turns, and distance traveled. As far as I can tell, the engine is only accounting for the distance of a single path.

[grayman]

1. What is roombrushing? I never built anything for the old Thief games, and am unfamiliar with Dromed.

 

2. TDM sound indeed travels the single shortest path, like stretching a string through the portals and pulling it tight. It doesn't care about portal size or 'angle of turns'. I wasn't aware that either could affect sound. Will research.